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copper member
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July 05, 2020, 03:24:48 PM
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.Watch out Brave browser users you might end up being hacked by this trojan mafia.
That's way too exage but yeah uninstalling the browser could prevent you related to the issue of them for their hidden affiliates redirection.
sr. member
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OMG, i will uninstall the brave browsers from my desktop and laptop. So they claim to help you to prevent data gathering but will trick you from going affiliates. Watch out Brave browser users you might end up being hacked by this trojan mafia.
hero member
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Damn you are right when I tried to type Binance.us a referral link shows up and I though it was cached when using the search engine for Binance I clean my computer regularly and haven't made a visit to Binance lately but sure is embedded in the browser.

Wow they are exposed, good job for exposing them, I wonder are they doing this since we installed the browser, such cheap trick.
Not that cheap if thousands of people do use your ref link haha
Seriously though Brave still has a chance to live even after such drastic mistakes they've made.
Their client base is so wide that some of them maybe ignorant to such problems
Yeah I've seen many people uses brave browser simply out of reddit recommendation or such and usually don't even care that crypto exists.
They are growing great and now turns out they become like this, I guess money is very interesting after all. Although I know it too well that browser competition is kinda fierce.
hero member
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I just started using brave browser I really like it, using it to type right now, was getting frustrated with Firefox this days, but why they will pull such stunt and believe somebody will not notice it, I hope this is not in every website someone will visit, imagine the amount of referrals they get a day.
newbie
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Damn you are right when I tried to type Binance.us a referral link shows up and I though it was cached when using the search engine for Binance I clean my computer regularly and haven't made a visit to Binance lately but sure is embedded in the browser.

Wow they are exposed, good job for exposing them, I wonder are they doing this since we installed the browser, such cheap trick.
Not that cheap if thousands of people do use your ref link haha
Seriously though Brave still has a chance to live even after such drastic mistakes they've made.
Their client base is so wide that some of them maybe ignorant to such problems
hero member
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One would call it a clever move, to get even more profit without hurting anyone. It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.

The point here is deception, I sign up download their browser and now I'm using it now, but they did not tell me anything that will compromise my privacy and they are using the platform as a referral-based to some programs,

Now this is not right, they are promoting their browser as something better than Chrome and other browsers in terms of privacy but they are in fact deceiving their users, they already made a profit from their token, they must keep their promise.  

I know what you feel man when youre being deceived yet you do believe that this browser is much more better than those traditional ones that we have known when it comes to privacy aspect but it seems
they are doing the contrary thing.They've gone too far or just being too confident that they do able to get publics attention and trust and now they how embedded a referral link when you do tend to make up a binance search up? I have tried this before and they are indeed having that one but now it seems they've been busted and it already got being removed.
every browser tells that they are the best but brave does really have a specialty when it comes to privacy compare ro google and other standard browser but  i feel sorry for them . its like thier head got big , they only waste the trust that people gave to them . i know many inocent users will not complain about this because they only care about those bat rewards but to some privacy is a big thing . its nice to know that their modus got busted , thanks to those who are concerned .  

Their head really gotten big and thats really a wrong move for them and for sure it do decrease out its credibility.

We know those popular browsers that we've known but they arent involved into such issue like this one.Popularity of Brave

was known due to that privacy aspect but they've become greedy when theyve gotten popular.
hero member
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Not only this but every month they push adverts to users for BAT token only for the majority of people getting the message.

Sorry please try again next month.

So not only are they now pushing there own referral links build in but they also require you to KYC to get your BAT tokens.

So privacy browser that :

1. Fails to provide the tokens to users who have advertising active.
2. Require you KYC you private personal information to withdraw (if your lucky enough to be able to claim you BAT)
3. Embed there own referral links to binance into there browser.

Brave is losing touch with there core idea and selling out next stop selling user data...

Sort your shit Brave!

 
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One would call it a clever move, to get even more profit without hurting anyone. It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.

The point here is deception, I sign up download their browser and now I'm using it now, but they did not tell me anything that will compromise my privacy and they are using the platform as a referral-based to some programs,

Now this is not right, they are promoting their browser as something better than Chrome and other browsers in terms of privacy but they are in fact deceiving their users, they already made a profit from their token, they must keep their promise.  

I know what you feel man when youre being deceived yet you do believe that this browser is much more better than those traditional ones that we have known when it comes to privacy aspect but it seems
they are doing the contrary thing.They've gone too far or just being too confident that they do able to get publics attention and trust and now they how embedded a referral link when you do tend to make up a binance search up? I have tried this before and they are indeed having that one but now it seems they've been busted and it already got being removed.
every browser tells that they are the best but brave does really have a specialty when it comes to privacy compare ro google and other standard browser but  i feel sorry for them . its like thier head got big , they only waste the trust that people gave to them . i know many inocent users will not complain about this because they only care about those bat rewards but to some privacy is a big thing . its nice to know that their modus got busted , thanks to those who are concerned .  
legendary
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And what was the Brave response to that?
https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269313200127795201

Brendan Eich is the CEO of Brave. That thread plus a bunch of his other twitter responses around that time detail how they are dealing with the issue. You can read it and decide for yourself whether or not you think their reasoning is acceptable.

The subtext of it all is essentially "Yes, we refer to Binance, but we meant to do it in the background rather in the URL bar. We are going to keep referring you, but we'll change how we do it so it is not so obvious anymore." Not exactly the kind of behavior I would expect from a browser which pushes itself as the be-all and end-all for privacy.
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It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.
I explained the point in my post above.

It is not that they want to make profits - it is the way in which they are doing it. Embedding code written by third parties and implement changes recommended by third parties who are paying them is proof that users' privacy and control is taking a back seat to the interests of advertisers and sponsors. First it was Binance ads, then it was a Binance widget on every new tab, now it's hijacking browsers to send users to Binance links they didn't type. It's quite clear that for the right price, Binance can do anything they like with Brave browser.
And what was the Brave response to that?
hero member
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One would call it a clever move, to get even more profit without hurting anyone. It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.

The point here is deception, I sign up download their browser and now I'm using it now, but they did not tell me anything that will compromise my privacy and they are using the platform as a referral-based to some programs,

Now this is not right, they are promoting their browser as something better than Chrome and other browsers in terms of privacy but they are in fact deceiving their users, they already made a profit from their token, they must keep their promise. 

I know what you feel man when youre being deceived yet you do believe that this browser is much more better than those traditional ones that we have known when it comes to privacy aspect but it seems
they are doing the contrary thing.They've gone too far or just being too confident that they do able to get publics attention and trust and now they how embedded a referral link when you do tend to make up a binance search up? I have tried this before and they are indeed having that one but now it seems they've been busted and it already got being removed.
legendary
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One would call it a clever move, to get even more profit without hurting anyone. It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.

The point here is deception, I sign up download their browser and now I'm using it now, but they did not tell me anything that will compromise my privacy and they are using the platform as a referral-based to some programs,

Now this is not right, they are promoting their browser as something better than Chrome and other browsers in terms of privacy but they are in fact deceiving their users, they already made a profit from their token, they must keep their promise. 
legendary
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It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.
I explained the point in my post above.

It is not that they want to make profits - it is the way in which they are doing it. Embedding code written by third parties and implement changes recommended by third parties who are paying them is proof that users' privacy and control is taking a back seat to the interests of advertisers and sponsors. First it was Binance ads, then it was a Binance widget on every new tab, now it's hijacking browsers to send users to Binance links they didn't type. It's quite clear that for the right price, Binance can do anything they like with Brave browser.
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And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?

There will be no impact on your account if you use the referral link of anyone including the brave browser but the brave team will get benefit from it as they will get referral commissions.
This is really sad to know because i switched from firefox to brave browser as it help to block the ads but after knowing this i do not feel confident to continue using brave browser.
One would call it a clever move, to get even more profit without hurting anyone. It is normal that company wants to maximize profits I honestly do not get your point guys.
hero member
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And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?

There will be no impact on your account if you use the referral link of anyone including the brave browser but the brave team will get benefit from it as they will get referral commissions.
This is really sad to know because i switched from firefox to brave browser as it help to block the ads but after knowing this i do not feel confident to continue using brave browser.
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And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?
No, signing up via the referral link does not impact your account, but you are missing the point.

Brave was supposedly all about privacy, all about anti-tracking, all about giving users back control. The fact that Brave will hijack your browser and redirect you to URLs you did not enter is a breach of all of these things. Combine this with the fact that they embedded code from Binance in to their browser, and it shows that for a little bit of money Brave are quite happy to abandon their principles and push whatever their sponsors want them to. They don't care about their users; they care about their profits.
If it is not reported they can do it on almost every site that people will visit and sign up, and we all become Brave's referrals and company will be happy to advertise on Brave knowing that they insert a code to make the advertised company to always show up in keywords, searches are searching.
legendary
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And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?
No, signing up via the referral link does not impact your account, but you are missing the point.

Brave was supposedly all about privacy, all about anti-tracking, all about giving users back control. The fact that Brave will hijack your browser and redirect you to URLs you did not enter is a breach of all of these things. Combine this with the fact that they embedded code from Binance in to their browser, and it shows that for a little bit of money Brave are quite happy to abandon their principles and push whatever their sponsors want them to. They don't care about their users; they care about their profits.
legendary
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I know some of these replies are old but I have some things to say.

I think the crypto community should understand by now that most online product owners/teams are not totally honest cause a couple of days back it was Google chrome incognito and now brave browser making money through their users and i think we need to re-examine brave browser so-called privacy browsing.

I wouldn't be surprised about Chrome incognito tracking especially if said users were signed into Google and other services' websites while using them, because the sign-in process loads the same URLs for normal and private browser windows so there's nothing really stopping you from getting tracked. But I think Google has a strong legal argument to throw out this lawsuit by saying that the claims are only valid if people sign in to Google services and not if they are used anonymously. I'm not condoning Google's behavior, I'm just stating the facts.

Ghostery is awful. They have a shady privacy policy which permits them to collect data on you, including every web page you visit, and permits them to serve you ads via "Ghostery Rewards". They have moved to a subscription model, meaning their free version is now very limited. It also doesn't do anything that you can't do with uBlock Origin.

I can concur Ghostery is awful. It's the only adblocker I couldn't import Scamwhammer filters into, because they don't support filter lists.

Perhaps, but they clearly forget that their idealism attract people to use their browser in first place. Maybe it's time to fork Brave Browser, but without BAT, 3rd party script/addons and refferal link.

Here's a start Wink https://github.com/ZenulAbidin/brave-browser, I do know node so on the outside it sounds intuitive to remove the referral links and token crap, but don't expect this to be something I'll actually work on. Chromium codebase is extraordinarily big and complex and requires a lot of resources to test and time to understand.

And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?

Because sometimes we don't want to support the referral linker for moral reasons.
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And what? Most of us Have Binance account already and what is the difference between the referral link and normal, does it impact created account somehow?
legendary
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I guess that over time they made some poor/commercial decisions and I was not keeping pace with that.
Both the /r/firefox and /r/privacy subreddits are good sources of information for stuff like this, which is little ironic given how anti-free speech reddit is.

Here are a couple of good threads about the issue:
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/f18dmf/is_ghostery_a_worthwhile_service_to_use_in_2020/
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/gx1goc/does_ublock_do_everything_ghostery_does/
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/fbb9wo/please_rethink_giving_the_extension_ghostery_the/

In terms of which Firefox add-ons to consider, I would start with the following two links:
https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/#addons
https://prism-break.org/en/all/#web-browser-addons

Worth pointing out that if you install too many add-ons you make your browser fingerprint more unique. If you want/need to avoid this, then you should either be blocking JavaScript with an extension such as NoScript, or using Tor (bundled as-is without any additional add-ons or customization).
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