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Quote from: michietn94 on June 15, 2017, 01:25:05 AM

Well it's very good news for bitcoin holders as it will affect on bitcoin's popularity and value on the future.
Everything will be more anonymous and faster than using fiat but of course there will be disadvantage for example , terorist able to use bitcoin in more ways and variuous coin

There are political risks of ICO project, so many ICO projects don't accept buyer from American. I am not a American, I don't know why cryptocurrencies are not welcome in this conuty famous with freedom.

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Quote from: sir.humus on June 15, 2017, 05:22:03 AM

It always fascinating me, how "The Great Democracy In The World" is having the least democratic rules.
Even their elections is not a real democracy, since you can win the most people votes and yet lose the presidency.
They have so much rules that stops your freedom, and yet anyone can buy a gun and do with it whatever he wants.
Save us from your democracy and let us be free...

I don't know why Americans don't even know their history, I read their history and the people who started their country HATED DEMOCRACY! They said American's cant be free in a democracy so they started a representative republic. If the laws (constitution) stops the rulers then they have freedom if the laws stops (regulates) citizens they have tyranny. Americans live in a "democratic" tyranny and no longer have a republic like once but they think they have a democracy when the American president Jefferson said democracy is a tyranny like 2 wolves and sheep voting what's for dinner.

I just don't get it why someone who says they love freedom so much act like they hate it. Actions tell the truth not words!

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It always fascinating me, how "The Great Democracy In The World" is having the least democratic rules.
Even their elections is not a real democracy, since you can win the most people votes and yet lose the presidency.
They have so much rules that stops your freedom, and yet anyone can buy a gun and do with it whatever he wants.
Save us from your democracy and let us be free...

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 05:13:20 AM

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Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

Do You see "detailing a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States;"

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

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Interdict:
intercept and prevent the movement of (a prohibited commodity or person).
"army efforts to interdict enemy supply shipments"

Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.

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Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Yeah, it is about you declaring at border.

Good luck scanning my brain for 24 word seed hehehe

>>>Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.<<<

Ha ha, but America has dozens of aircraft carries and loves to use them! Maybe Russia can say %^#$@#$ you America but eventually they will even force Russia to do what they are told, just give it some years!

Now you are just fantasizing.

I wish i was. I would like everyone to be free but look at the record of America putting otthers under their boot they are way better at it then Germany Or Rome or anyone ever was! They do it with a combination of deception and force and call the process "nation building" or whatever but they push their anti-freedom agenda very well and you think Russia is imune today, maybe yes but what if they get a pupet in the Kremlin after Putin is gone?

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Quote from: 2bfree on June 15, 2017, 02:36:37 AM

Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 02:14:03 AM

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 01:59:16 AM

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

Do You see "detailing a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States;"

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Quote

Interdict:
intercept and prevent the movement of (a prohibited commodity or person).
"army efforts to interdict enemy supply shipments"

Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.

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Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Yeah, it is about you declaring at border.

Good luck scanning my brain for 24 word seed hehehe

>>>Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.<<<

Ha ha, but America has dozens of aircraft carries and loves to use them! Maybe Russia can say %^#$@#$ you America but eventually they will even force Russia to do what they are told, just give it some years!

Now you are just fantasizing.

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Quote from: benthach on June 15, 2017, 03:23:50 AM

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Quote from: thesavoyard on June 15, 2017, 01:45:52 AM

This law has no effect on price, fucking read before commenting. It does nothing to legal holders and you would be required to declare what you own over $10,000 when crossing the boarder.

So people who don't travel much are safe?

this bill is crap, it mean nothing for crypto. example is ARK, if you have 12 words passphrase for ARK you can print it out or remember it then come in/out to the U.S with hundred of millions with just this passphrase. just saying, whole ARK itself is not 100million yet.
HINT; to regulate crypto more affective is to regulate exchange like coinbase where bitcoin/fiat or fiat/bitcoin flow but then almost everywhere and everyone now is taking bitcoin

I guaranteed 100% when they pass a law (not this one) to ban crypto 99% of "law abiding" American's will not use crypto they obey very well what they are told. That's my impression of most people (not just American's). If that happens price has to go down, I'm sure of it because many will not rebel.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on June 15, 2017, 03:14:05 AM

Quote from: thesavoyard on June 15, 2017, 01:45:52 AM

This law has no effect on price, fucking read before commenting. It does nothing to legal holders and you would be required to declare what you own over $10,000 when crossing the boarder.

So people who don't travel much are safe?

this bill is crap, it mean nothing for crypto. example is ARK, if you have 12 words passphrase for ARK you can print it out or remember it then come in/out to the U.S with hundred of millions with just this passphrase. just saying, whole ARK itself is not 100million yet.
HINT; to regulate crypto more affective is to regulate exchange like coinbase where bitcoin/fiat or fiat/bitcoin flow but then almost everywhere and everyone now is taking bitcoin

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I read this cogress thing but I didn't understand whether it is purely a proposal or almost a law? I hope US government is not that stupid to forbid cryptocurrencies, because it will lead to 1) growth of side economy and 2) Russia winning in their competition who's more powerful. Whereas USA is thinking about forbidding cryptos, Putin was present on the meeting related to cryptocurrencies and seems to be proud of Buterin especially.

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Quote from: thesavoyard on June 15, 2017, 01:45:52 AM

This law has no effect on price, fucking read before commenting. It does nothing to legal holders and you would be required to declare what you own over $10,000 when crossing the boarder.

So people who don't travel much are safe?

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 02:14:03 AM

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 01:59:16 AM

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

Do You see "detailing a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States;"

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Quote

Interdict:
intercept and prevent the movement of (a prohibited commodity or person).
"army efforts to interdict enemy supply shipments"

Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.

Quote

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Yeah, it is about you declaring at border.

Good luck scanning my brain for 24 word seed hehehe

>>>Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.<<<

Ha ha, but America has dozens of aircraft carries and loves to use them! Maybe Russia can say %^#$@#$ you America but eventually they will even force Russia to do what they are told, just give it some years!

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Quote from: Sex Video Chat VKcams.com on June 15, 2017, 02:08:25 AM

Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 01:59:16 AM

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

Do You see "detailing a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States;"

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Quote

Interdict:
intercept and prevent the movement of (a prohibited commodity or person).
"army efforts to interdict enemy supply shipments"

Also, world is not USA. USA sucks, there are far more better countries where you can live.

Quote

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

Yeah, it is about you declaring at border.

Good luck scanning my brain for 24 word seed hehehe

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 01:59:16 AM

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

Do You see "detailing a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States;"

Interdiction of digital currencies is not about control of them.

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 15, 2017, 01:59:16 AM

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Quote from: michietn94 on June 15, 2017, 01:25:05 AM

Well it's very good news for bitcoin holders as it will affect on bitcoin's popularity and value on the future.

This bill will make BTC illegal in USA, what is "good news" for BTC holders here?

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

It will be like your other law where you haras your citizens living abroad making them declare everything they own have etc threatening them with jail why many don't go overseas also banks will not let american's open accounts this will be the same epople will keep BTC under 10000 fiat scared to cross the border and when they fill out those forms they are alreading comiting a crime i reads omewhere that thousend of american's put in jail every year for filling out correctly the tax or mortage form but so many papers prosecutor finds "crime" that is why your "land of the free" has more prisinors in jail then china (the hole planet has less prisoners).

I wish America goes back to republic like it use to be the real land of free and leave fascist policy to other countries. My wish for American's is to discover freedom once again AND LEAVE BITCOIN ALONE!

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Quote from: michietn94 on June 15, 2017, 01:25:05 AM

Well it's very good news for bitcoin holders as it will affect on bitcoin's popularity and value on the future.

This bill will make BTC illegal in USA, what is "good news" for BTC holders here?

Quote me where it says the bill will make Bitcoin illegal.

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Quote from: GRR on June 15, 2017, 01:43:04 AM

It is not like they can stop the natural order of things. I do not think the demand will be reduced. It also didn't work in the era of prohibition. There will be workarounds until they join what they cannot fight. When they ban A, some thing called B will emerge and C is already in development. When they finally ban B it is time for C, etc. It is an illusion to think in a technologically advancing world to stop processes like decentralization and cryptography. Dinosaurs clinging to their power are afraid of losing it, but they are a dying race.

Check this video about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd8WoAeifkM

I do think when they ban it the prices will plunge because most citizens are brainwashed just look at poker, this will be similar when USA banned poker for their citizens.

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Quote from: omonuyak on June 15, 2017, 01:44:03 AM

I was thinking it was the disaster that happened in London and usa yesterday that is affecting the price of crypto currencies but from this news many Americans crypto currencies traders are selling off their coins and price of most of the coins has dropped over 25% now. Though another opportunity to buy cheap as this law is norgratal

This law has no effect on price, fucking read before commenting. It does nothing to legal holders and you would be required to declare what you own over $10,000 when crossing the boarder.

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I was thinking it was the disaster that happened in London and usa yesterday that is affecting the price of crypto currencies but from this news many Americans crypto currencies traders are selling off their coins and price of most of the coins has dropped over 25% now. Though another opportunity to buy cheap as this law is norgratal

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Quote from: michietn94 on June 15, 2017, 01:25:05 AM

Well it's very good news for bitcoin holders as it will affect on bitcoin's popularity and value on the future.

This bill will make BTC illegal in USA, what is "good news" for BTC holders here?

Bullshit, you will have to declare if you cross the border and own more than $10,000 worth of btc. It does nothing to make bitcoin illegal but does try to go after tax evaders and non-existant btc terrorists. It also expands the unconstitutional civil forfeiture. The US government takes your money without due process or standing.

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