I wish someone with authority could disable signatures completely for everyone for some test period of time.
I want to see if that helps reduce spam on bitcointalk. Because from what I could see on other big boards, Reddit included, spam is still overwhelming there.
Topic: New Way to cut down Sig Spam - page 2. (Read 3105 times)
The standards for almost every sig campaign are laxed, that's why you get a bunch of garbage posters. Banning campaigns is not a viable solution, because since when has prohibition solved any problem? Answer: it hasn't.
I am proud to be a member of the sig campaign I am in because it's members are vetted for quality posting and the campaign manager does his job well. If all the campaigns paid this much attention to who was in and what they were posting this website would clean up dramatically.
Editorial comment: I post a couple times a day, same as before I was in a campaign, so why not get some coin for something I do anyway. My campaign doesn't honor posts in meta, so this post is "free".
I am proud to be a member of the sig campaign I am in because it's members are vetted for quality posting and the campaign manager does his job well. If all the campaigns paid this much attention to who was in and what they were posting this website would clean up dramatically.
Editorial comment: I post a couple times a day, same as before I was in a campaign, so why not get some coin for something I do anyway. My campaign doesn't honor posts in meta, so this post is "free".
But you still post shit nonetheless, what does it matter if you are posting less per day or if your english is good? Spam is spam. Funny how you bash sig spammers when your posts are 1/10 in quality.
Your posts aren't exactly the pinnacle of enlightenment, doofus. It does matter actually, because I haven't noticed threads popping up about members like me, but countless ones complaining about paid signature spammers such as yourself. Why do you deny the obvious; that you and the majority of paid signature members only post to get paid? Just look at this thread; the OP made a post about cutting down on signature spam, and almost all of the replies came from people spamming their signatures for some bit crumbs. How ironic is that?
You can keep denying the obvious, which even you yourself know to be true, or you can just admit what everyone already knows, and tell me to get lost because the admin and mods allow you to spam your paid signatures. Either way, I don't care, and I'll continue to ridicule and poke fun at the mediocre advertisements posing as actual forum posts as I please.
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
Oh put a sock in it. I average like 1 post per 3 days, while you average like 5. I go for months at a time without posting, and I write in legible English. Plus I don't have a paid signature. Unlike you, I have no incentive to post. If paid signatures were banned tomorrow, you and most of your ilk would likely slither away back to your fetid hovels, or your posting frequency would become like the libido of a 99 year-old man. Maybe you should spend the money you earn from your signature on some English lessons.
I don't think such idea gonna work. Naming that board "off-topic" holds a specific reason.
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
Lol, so you're trying to tell me that indiscernible drivel you just posted isn't spam
Funny how you and the poster above you both have usernames that start with Xin. Gee, I wonder if you're related.
But you still post shit nonetheless, what does it matter if you are posting less per day or if your english is good? Spam is spam. Funny how you bash sig spammers when your posts are 1/10 in quality.
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
Oh put a sock in it. I average like 1 post per 3 days, while you average like 5. I go for months at a time without posting, and I write in legible English. Plus I don't have a paid signature. Unlike you, I have no incentive to post. If paid signatures were banned tomorrow, you and most of your ilk would likely slither away back to your fetid hovels, or your posting frequency would become like the libido of a 99 year-old man. Maybe you should spend the money you earn from your signature on some English lessons.
I don't think such idea gonna work. Naming that board "off-topic" holds a specific reason.
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
Lol, so you're trying to tell me that indiscernible drivel you just posted isn't spam
Funny how you and the poster above you both have usernames that start with Xin. Gee, I wonder if you're related.
I don't think such idea gonna work. Naming that board "off-topic" holds a specific reason.
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
In my opinion theymos did very good by keeping off-topic because he is fulfilling spammers desire
That is the only place where whole spammers belong to. You can only see that place full of spams.
So, give them place. We know non-spammers won't go there.
And yes your plan of hiding signature in that section might help in Reducing spams I guess
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
I agree. He only have anger that's why he is posting bullshits in red color
Control your attitude mate
Damn Mr.big you sure got those sneaky sig spammers with your post. Did you check your own posts lately? If you were wearing a signature you would have been banned most likely due to your super low quality posting but i guess you feel better by throwing shit at other people. I think people is looking too much into spammers that wear signatures when there are spammers like this guy with totally worthless posts without any signature that are still here.
The only way is shutting down sig campaigns, honestly.
I agree, although I doubt this will happen. It becomes a chore having to wade through all the crap to find the posts that actually add some value to a conversation. A lot of 'members', and I use that term loosely, can't even write English properly. Just take a look at some of the posts in this thread:
If you want to get rid of spammer is contact who helding the signature campaign or his manager.
And about the rule , it should make for not posting on selected section
And about the rule , it should make for not posting on selected section
Maybe you should report rivoke to your campaign manager...
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump
Did you get that bump when your momma dropped you on your head, or were you always this stupid?
Simply spammers will continue their spams whether in off-topic or elsewhere.
For example, in the other compagns that don't pay posts in the off topic section, politics... spammers will bombard game & rounds.
For example, in the other compagns that don't pay posts in the off topic section, politics... spammers will bombard game & rounds.
Don't forget the Meta section. Spammers sure like posting there too
The suggestion is a good thing to reduce the spam a bit but the big step is convincing the campaign managers to not count those which their somehow firm of their rules that first implemented and if you dig a bit deeper
Oh yeah, dem managers is always their firming dem rulez an ting
The main reason for so many spams is due to automated signatures and even worst if there's no limit in postings. Shorena is right. However, fixed rate campaigns does lessen the load on the manager when counting posts. They should review each participant individually and ensure that they aren't spamming and is contributing something to the discussion at the very list. I have joined many campaigns which only recruits high quality posters 
and it does work well.
and it does work well.Obviously those campaigns didn't recruit only high quality posters if they let someone like you join...
You didn't understand what shorena said. It is not the limiting of post, she is referring to the fixed rate for lower ranked accounts, people tend to spam to raise their pay rate so thus they will make a lot of post and thus that will result to spam 
Also it is not the automated counting that does the problem. It is not a problem to have a bot to count the posts but I think implementing a rule that a participant must take care of the image of the campaign might lessen spamming, let's say there is a rule that if you want to get paid, you need to be sure your posts are constructive, if you want to get paid you need to take care of other participants, such reporting them if they are making spammy posts. Participants should be given a responsibility like this.
Also it is not the automated counting that does the problem. It is not a problem to have a bot to count the posts but I think implementing a rule that a participant must take care of the image of the campaign might lessen spamming, let's say there is a rule that if you want to get paid, you need to be sure your posts are constructive, if you want to get paid you need to take care of other participants, such reporting them if they are making spammy posts. Participants should be given a responsibility like this.
Such reporting, many WOW
Have you once imagine how this forum will look like without all the spammers making those insubstantial posting? The thing is, we want to get rid of the spammers and not the signature campaign itself. I doubt people will keep working in their postings if they are not getting paid by it (for some maybe). The forums activity benefits from the ongoing signature campaigns.
Oh the horror! What a terrible thought to imagine...
On a more serious note:
It's almost as if some of these posts were written in another language and passed through Google Translate. There's a difference between making grammatical errors here and there, and making it blatantly obvious that you really suck at English. Coupled with meaningless tripe and redundant baloney, the forum can become rather unsavoury at times, if you know what I mean.
i thought the majority of the campaign if not all don't pay for posting in the off-topic section, at least you can consider their "spamming" genuine there...
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
Not really no. Fixed rates with reasonable requirements in posts do not lead to less spam, but to spam spread over several accounts. This in turn will increase the demand for accounts of a certain level (Full Member+). Thus we will have more farm spam.
What might be a solution though is to proxy ban those running the campaigns. E.g. if you run a campaign and X (maybe 10 or a percentage based number) participants had to be banned for spam you will get banned as well. Accounts running the campaigns can not be replaced as easily as those posting and it would give them a very strong incentive to clean up among their participants.
People will just create use and throw accounts to run signature campaigns, or move the running of campaigns to other sites. This suggestion was shot down before.
I don't think acting on campaign managers would work, they'll just stop posting here, or use anon accounts. While using anon accounts now would be a red flag for a sig campaign, it would eventually become normal and accepted, similar to how it's the norm to see a one post newbie selling a hero account.
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
Not really no. Fixed rates with reasonable requirements in posts do not lead to less spam, but to spam spread over several accounts. This in turn will increase the demand for accounts of a certain level (Full Member+). Thus we will have more farm spam.
What might be a solution though is to proxy ban those running the campaigns. E.g. if you run a campaign and X (maybe 10 or a percentage based number) participants had to be banned for spam you will get banned as well. Accounts running the campaigns can not be replaced as easily as those posting and it would give them a very strong incentive to clean up among their participants.
That can be effective but also can kill sig campaigns. Campaign manager can do all the work so instead of the sig campaign itself the campaign manager should be one responsible for this matter.
The only way is shutting down sig campaigns, honestly.
Have you once imagine how this forum will look like without all the spammers making those insubstantial posting? The thing is, we want to get rid of the spammers and not the signature campaign itself. I doubt people will keep working in their postings if they are not getting paid by it (for some maybe). The forums activity benefits from the ongoing signature campaigns.
The only way is shutting down sig campaigns, honestly.
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
The main reason for so many spams is due to automated signatures and even worst if there's no limit in postings. Shorena is right. However, fixed rate campaigns does lessen the load on the manager when counting posts. They should review each participant individually and ensure that they aren't spamming and is contributing something to the discussion at the very list. I have joined many campaigns which only recruits high quality posters and it does work well.You didn't understand what shorena said. It is not the limiting of post, she is referring to the fixed rate for lower ranked accounts, people tend to spam to raise their pay rate so thus they will make a lot of post and thus that will result to spam.
Also it is not the automated counting that does the problem. It is not a problem to have a bot to count the posts but I think implementing a rule that a participant must take care of the image of the campaign might lessen spamming, let's say there is a rule that if you want to get paid, you need to be sure your posts are constructive, if you want to get paid you need to take care of other participants, such reporting them if they are making spammy posts. Participants should be given a responsibility like this.
It is effective in getting campaign managers to not pay postings in the section but it doesn't stop spam. People would still use it to farm accounts. IMO, a more effective way to reduce signature spam is to set a rule for signature campaigns with auto bots to not count those sections and if it can be counted, manual counting is required.
Agree, like with Bit-X who do not pay you for posts in certain sections of the forum.
Another thing that might also help but which might be difficult to implement is to get users to lock a thread one it has served its purpose. There are countless times where somebody asks a question and get their answer within the first say three posts yet the thread ends up being 5 pages long as every man and his dog keep on posting the same answers over and over again. If the thread is locked this will not happen.
True but it also stops others with similar problems to post follow up questions. Spammers will find a way to post one way or another.
It is effective in getting campaign managers to not pay postings in the section but it doesn't stop spam. People would still use it to farm accounts. IMO, a more effective way to reduce signature spam is to set a rule for signature campaigns with auto bots to not count those sections and if it can be counted, manual counting is required.
Agree, like with Bit-X who do not pay you for posts in certain sections of the forum.
Another thing that might also help but which might be difficult to implement is to get users to lock a thread one it has served its purpose. There are countless times where somebody asks a question and get their answer within the first say three posts yet the thread ends up being 5 pages long as every man and his dog keep on posting the same answers over and over again. If the thread is locked this will not happen.
Automated campaigns depend on the initial post and last post. This will have no effects at all
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
The main reason for so many spams is due to automated signatures and even worst if there's no limit in postings. Shorena is right. However, fixed rate campaigns does lessen the load on the manager when counting posts. They should review each participant individually and ensure that they aren't spamming and is contributing something to the discussion at the very list. I have joined many campaigns which only recruits high quality posters and it does work well. I suggest that posts in the off topic section dont have signatures enabled, i think we will see less spammers there
i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards
your thoughts?
Signature spammers are everywhere in the forum and not just in the off topic section. Like they've said they are l in the games and rounds, investor-based games and even in the beginners and help section etc. The thing is, the only solution to stop is for the campaign managers to take action against it. Be more strict with their rules and people might take effort into putting some thoughts in their posts and not just a plain shitty one.i know they will move to other boards but it will be easier to see spam in the other boards
your thoughts?
Also the offtopic is not full of spammers, there are actually constructive topics in there, what makes it look bad is the posters.
Reporting them to mods won't stop them either unless they have been reported several times or if their posts are a bunch of nonsense.
Its better to have a fixed rate for sig campaign per week like what ore-mine.org does, with fixed rate spammers will avoided too much bump, thank you, and many spam posts.
Not really no. Fixed rates with reasonable requirements in posts do not lead to less spam, but to spam spread over several accounts. This in turn will increase the demand for accounts of a certain level (Full Member+). Thus we will have more farm spam.
What might be a solution though is to proxy ban those running the campaigns. E.g. if you run a campaign and X (maybe 10 or a percentage based number) participants had to be banned for spam you will get banned as well. Accounts running the campaigns can not be replaced as easily as those posting and it would give them a very strong incentive to clean up among their participants.
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