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Topic: NEW ZEALAND HAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED ALL ANIMALS AS SENTIENT BEINGS - page 2. (Read 1442 times)

legendary
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Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

I heard somewhere along the line that Hormel took an interest in the amount of suffering that the animals underwent in the obviously awful process of being turned into food.  For that reason I prefer Hormel products all else being equal.

Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.  I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.

http://www.hormelfoods.com/Newsroom/Press-Releases/2010/07/20100721


And this is the point your not getting..YOU SAID THIS..Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.THIS STATEMENT IS A LIE..

Most humans love people suffering FACT..Go and tell a friend your doing really well and most will look at you with jealousy in there eyes ENVY.
Jews do well in life no one praises the Jews just hate..If you got something your neighbour wants it..

When your doing bad people say arr well he deserves it without finding out why he not doing to good

Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..

Look at the poor in the world ..we love boxing We love it when a human does something bad to them selves..
car racing waiting for a crash i could go on..So what you say is a lie..I REST MY CASE Grin
legendary
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Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

I heard somewhere along the line that Hormel took an interest in the amount of suffering that the animals underwent in the obviously awful process of being turned into food.  For that reason I prefer Hormel products all else being equal.

Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.  I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.

http://www.hormelfoods.com/Newsroom/Press-Releases/2010/07/20100721

legendary
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Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.
I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans.  
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill.  

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest.  Maybe you're like an animal that way.


While it could have been said more eloquently, I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals. These kind of laws just utilize the rabid animal rights activist crowd to push the agenda for more control over dictating the freedoms of humans under the pretense of animal rights. We have already seen some extremely absurd environmental restrictions being used in the same way. Research Agenda 21. It is not a theory, it is fact. If people really cared about the environment and the welfare of animals they would be pushing to end nuclear energy, or at least upgrading the plants to newer models that can't melt down when the power goes out like in Fukushima. If you want to see real animal suffering just look at the Pacific ocean.
I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals.YOU SAY..

To treat animals in a humane way..To have feelings for animals to be disturbed by animal cruelty..
Your more less likely to not want to hurt anyone plus your more likely to have feelings for your fellow man..
Also if aliens are coming to earth is it right they treat us the same way we treat other creatures?
Also if aliens are watching us do you think it's a good idea to meet humans? to interact with us..
Also if there was a galactic law do you think where good enough to follow this law do you think were
ready?

Like in Spain the bull run or when the matador kills the bull with a sword..I am always wishing the bull wins..It makes me so happy when i see the bull stick it's horn's right up some one butt hole or right in the stomach..Serves them right 1 up for the bull Grin

One day might someone might invent a pill and we can get all our nutrients we need to fill us up..
It will help with space travel Grin
I AM JUST AS MAD AS THIS GUY..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxzWpy7PKg
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

Now this is an area where I actually agree with animal rights activists, and not just because it makes animals suffer. The vast majority of factory farming is totally inhumane and disgusting. It also puts people at risk of disease by forcing these animals to live in their own filth while pumping them full of antibiotics in order to prevent infection. This is basically a super bug factory. This should be solved by passing laws regulating factory farming, but we all know this will not happen because they have powerful lobbies and lots of money to throw at politicians.
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Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.
legendary
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Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.
I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans. 
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill. 

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest.  Maybe you're like an animal that way.


While it could have been said more eloquently, I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals. These kind of laws just utilize the rabid animal rights activist crowd to push the agenda for more control over dictating the freedoms of humans under the pretense of animal rights. We have already seen some extremely absurd environmental restrictions being used in the same way. Research Agenda 21. It is not a theory, it is fact. If people really cared about the environment and the welfare of animals they would be pushing to end nuclear energy, or at least upgrading the plants to newer models that can't melt down when the power goes out like in Fukushima. If you want to see real animal suffering just look at the Pacific ocean.
legendary
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Animals show emotions just some humans don't care..Human's are the worst creature of all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cymZq1VblU0
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Now arrest all the animals for walking around naked, using public streets as toilets, and murdering other animals.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin     you make me day . yees they are nakeed  Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs


No sane adult could ever believe that video.  It was even uploaded on the 1st of April, which is the day when people upload ridiculous lies to the internet to see how many gullible people can be fooled.  

You have serious problems, and any meaningful communication with you is beyond my abilities.
Why would I ever want to know you .
New zealand do something good and you come on here and talk all bollocks no sense..
so fuck off

Also the video is true seen it many years ago on our national tv
legendary
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SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs


No sane adult could ever believe that video.  It was even uploaded on the 1st of April, which is the day when people upload ridiculous lies to the internet to see how many gullible people can be fooled. 

You have serious problems, and any meaningful communication with you is beyond my abilities.
legendary
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You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry


Some won't.  Some people live like savages, but some people know how to use apostrophes.



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take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..


Speak for yourself.  You're obviously a vulgar and disturbed individual.

Animals don't even have feelings towards their own adult offspring.
So don't tell me they have the same feelings as humans.
Some humans love their children.
Of course, some people don't.  Some people just come to bitcointalk and whine about how their son is gay, taking out that frustration with tantrums and girlish anger towards everyone who isn't just as confused about everything.
SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs
legendary
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Animals have feelings I know and i will now prove this a fact..

We all know human's take care of animals..If animals have no feelings then they would they care?

Watch this then Animals taking care of a human..100% proof Animals care and have emotions..
YOU MUST WATCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs

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You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry


Some won't.  Some people live like savages, but some people know how to use apostrophes.



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take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..


Speak for yourself.  You're obviously a vulgar and disturbed individual.

Animals don't even have feelings towards their own adult offspring.
So don't tell me they have the same feelings as humans.
Some humans love their children.
Of course, some people don't.  Some people just come to bitcointalk and whine about how their son is gay, taking out that frustration with tantrums and girlish anger towards everyone who isn't just as confused about everything.
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positive and negative emotions? no, of course not.. they are only able to respond to stimuli and always let you know when they're hungry.
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"It is intended that generally accepted hunting, fishing, and pest management practices will not be affected by the new section, which is directed at acts of wilful or reckless cruelty"
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Here it is...Animal Welfare Amendment Bill...

Hon Nathan Guy

Animal Welfare Amendment Bill
Government Bill
107—3
As reported from the committee of the whole House

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2013/0107/latest/DLM5174807.html?path=bill%2fgovernment%2f2013%2f0107%2flatest&col=bill&fid=DLM5174807&search=sw_096be8ed81047b83_sentient_25_se&p=1
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Well, I guess they have a law defining who those sentient beings are. I doubt that it includes the common housefly.
legendary
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There are several problems with this.

1)  The animal kingdom contains organisms with a smooth range of neurological capabilities.  How and who are going to be deciding where the cut-off point is within the animal kingdom?  If there even is a cut-off whereby dust mites are not afforded the rights of polar bears.
 
2)  It is extraordinarily discriminatory against other kingdoms.  Plants, fungi, protozoa, bacteria.

3)  How to deal with the injustices and abuse of, say, a cat killing and eating a mouse?  These kinds of abuses are rampant.  Enforcement is going to provide a lot of 'green jobs' at least.

4)  It's pure new-age weirdness.  New Zealand:  Glad to see that you have all of your more important problems solved.  You go, girl!

legendary
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Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.



I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans. 
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill. 

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest.  Maybe you're like an animal that way.

You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry
take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..

we are what you call domesticated animals..My dog wont eat my turtle..In the wild it would chomp it up.

Well done NEW ZEALAND..I love a bacon sandwich but if my parents never brought me up on meat and made me think eating animals was sick today i would be a vegetarian..
It was natural to eat humans ..Now we think this is a sick thing to do..

If children are brought up to think eating animals is wrong they will become vegetarians
It's all down to the parents..feed them meat they will love it..Don't feed them meat they will know no difference..

Animals have feelings I know I got a turtle and a dog..
Also if it stops people from eating meat everyday then it;s all good 1 or 2 times a week eating meat instead of every day IT HELPS..

WELL DONE NEW ZEALAND..And thanks ..
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