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April 30, 2023, 11:55:56 AM
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Is this verified information? That is, these newbie accounts will not be able to change their avatar?
Of course it is. Since they are an old newbies, Im sure no one is excluded with the current system and rules of wearing avatar by Full member rank above only. No need to verify that, since they wont come back anyway. These guys are legend and if ever they would come back I doubt that they will change their avatar and as a newbie they gotta read the rules first.

But if ever they come back, it will be talk of the forum and these guys might attract merits for being a newbie with avatar.

This seems like a discrimination to me. Why would an account be exclude from the new rules guiding the forum? Their avatar should have been removed automatically by the system after implementing the new rules. I have never seen a rule guiding a community applicable to some while excluding some and they're living together. I know my opinion does not matter but let call a spade a spade. Being an old member should not exempt them from the general rules by the way. Assuming those accounts back to be active in the forum now that's how they'll be bragging with avatar leaving the new account who has not attain the full member rank without avatar? That's ridiculous Undecided
Thymos should remove their avatar. I can see how frustrating the OP is right now  Grin

If the users remove the avatar they can not update it to a new avatar, only the last active avatar before the update will remain. I can see your point but at the same time, I can't see anything wrong with it. Maybe that is just how theymos wanted it to be.

It happened to the gif animation avatars as well as far as I know gif or animation is already disabled on the avatars, so only a few users who have gif avatars before the update can still retain their gif animations.
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Am very sure one of the reasons why newbies or just members are not allowed to wear avatar is so as to differentiate Bitcoin talk from a regular chat site like Whatsapp and the likes.
It is going to cause a kinda confusion if everyone is allowed to wear any avatar they deem fit, as this could result in hiding the campaigns that are meant to be run with avatars herein.
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This seems like a discrimination to me. Why would an account be exclude from the new rules guiding the forum? Their avatar should have been removed automatically by the system after implementing the new rules. I have never seen a rule guiding a community applicable to some while excluding some and they're living together. I know my opinion does not matter but let call a spade a spade. Being an old member should not exempt them from the general rules by the way. Assuming those accounts back to be active in the forum now that's how they'll be bragging with avatar leaving the new account who has not attain the full member rank without avatar? That's ridiculous Undecided
Thymos should remove their avatar. I can see how frustrating the OP is right now  Grin

You're the only one who thinks there's discrimination, there's no active newbie with an avatar displayed on their profile, so why Theymos would bother, and why use the word should as if the admin owes you a favor, you are being unreasonable in arguing on very trivial matters, we are all tenants here and the forum and the admin do not owe you anything.
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This seems like a discrimination to me. Why would an account be exclude from the new rules guiding the forum? Their avatar should have been removed automatically by the system after implementing the new rules. I have never seen a rule guiding a community applicable to some while excluding some and they're living together. I know my opinion does not matter but let call a spade a spade. Being an old member should not exempt them from the general rules by the way. Assuming those accounts back to be active in the forum now that's how they'll be bragging with avatar leaving the new account who has not attain the full member rank without avatar? That's ridiculous Undecided
Thymos should remove their avatar. I can see how frustrating the OP is right now  Grin
I don't see any discrimination those accounts are not active anymore why envy accounts that are not active here, you are just speculating that they will come back, no one here has seen active newbies with avatars, and besides you are one level from reaching a rank where you can wear avatar and besides these newbies with avatars, once they discard their avatar they cannot wear a new one.
Theymos might grant your request if you see one newbie with avatar, you can then call out Theymos, but since there is none there's no need to complain.
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Hello everyone,,
The basic rules of forum us you have to be full member to use avatar in your profile. But I've seen some accounts are useing avatar and their  rank is newbie, jr.member, and member.  we cannot use avatar in low rank profiles .. But I saw those accounts is wearing avatar in there profile....

You're able to still see them as newbies because they have been inactive for long time and the avatar they worn has been permitted for long as well before the introduction of the merit system, newbies directly can wear an avatar but now things have changed, so don't think maybe there's a way some members were being preferred than the other with this you're seing, everything about bitcointalk has to do with referring to how things were before new development and system set in.
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This seems like a discrimination to me. Why would an account be exclude from the new rules guiding the forum? Their avatar should have been removed automatically by the system after implementing the new rules. I have never seen a rule guiding a community applicable to some while excluding some and they're living together. I know my opinion does not matter but let call a spade a spade. Being an old member should not exempt them from the general rules by the way. Assuming those accounts back to be active in the forum now that's how they'll be bragging with avatar leaving the new account who has not attain the full member rank without avatar? That's ridiculous Undecided
Thymos should remove their avatar. I can see how frustrating the OP is right now  Grin
I don't think you seem to understand how things work here. There is no kind of discrimination or exemption here. Neither were they favoured than others.
Are you a developer? If no, atleast you use some mobile or Windows app. When new update is made to an app, it is sent to you as an OTA update and it is meant for you to download and install the update to your system.
If you by any reason refuse to install the new update, will the software developers force into your system to update it for you? I guess No.

That is exactly what happened here. Theymos updated the system code such that from henceforth, newbie to member accounts won't be able to wear avatars anymore. So, newbies who were already on avatar will enjoy it as long as they do not try to remove it and wear again. Once they remove the avatar, they will now be affected by the new update.
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Is this verified information? That is, these newbie accounts will not be able to change their avatar?
Of course it is. Since they are an old newbies, Im sure no one is excluded with the current system and rules of wearing avatar by Full member rank above only. No need to verify that, since they wont come back anyway. These guys are legend and if ever they would come back I doubt that they will change their avatar and as a newbie they gotta read the rules first.

But if ever they come back, it will be talk of the forum and these guys might attract merits for being a newbie with avatar.

This seems like a discrimination to me. Why would an account be exclude from the new rules guiding the forum? Their avatar should have been removed automatically by the system after implementing the new rules. I have never seen a rule guiding a community applicable to some while excluding some and they're living together. I know my opinion does not matter but let call a spade a spade. Being an old member should not exempt them from the general rules by the way. Assuming those accounts back to be active in the forum now that's how they'll be bragging with avatar leaving the new account who has not attain the full member rank without avatar? That's ridiculous Undecided
Thymos should remove their avatar. I can see how frustrating the OP is right now  Grin
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With this thread, I found an answer to your question.

Avatars were disabled due to some kind of exploit back around October 2013.
They were re-enabled in 2015 on April 1st (it wasn't a prank lol) and also the Full Member requirement was introduced.
So regarding the UID range my educated guess would be 1 - 155000

So beyond this date October 2013, all members on this forum can able to wear avatars.  So they're here for a long time.
As far as I knew back then when I first started here you need to at least be a full member in order for you to wear avatars. To be honest this is news to me since I there are only few accounts remaining as newbies who are still wearing avatars like what the OP found coz mostly they already have high ranks as of today while others had already retired from this forum.
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But they will only have to wear one avatar until they become full member, because if they try to change, they are blacked out  Grin

Do you mean they cannot change their avatar? If yes, please cite the source where it's written they cannot change their avatar.
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Is this verified information? That is, these newbie accounts will not be able to change their avatar?
Of course it is. Since they are an old newbies, Im sure no one is excluded with the current system and rules of wearing avatar by Full member rank above only. No need to verify that, since they wont come back anyway. These guys are legend and if ever they would come back I doubt that they will change their avatar and as a newbie they gotta read the rules first.

But if ever they come back, it will be talk of the forum and these guys might attract merits for being a newbie with avatar.
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If any of these accounts are still active, they would be enjoying some privilege as newbies wearing avatar which would be envious by people like me.
But they will only have to wear one avatar until they become full member, because if they try to change, they are blacked out  Grin
Is this verified information? That is, these newbie accounts will not be able to change their avatar?

I will not say that it is vital to know, but so, the question is purely out of curiosity. Moreover, these accounts have not been active for many years and are unlikely to return to the forum just to change their avatar. Smiley
as far as I know, they can remove their avatars, but once they do they cannot wear one again until they reach the required rank for that feature to be available again.

This story is funny with newbies and avatars. Let these accounts continue to be a kind of historical exhibits of the forum and remind of the glorious and old times of the forum's birth.
I kind of agree that these accounts are kind of historical artefacts that show us a glimpse of what the forum was like in its early days.
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If any of these accounts are still active, they would be enjoying some privilege as newbies wearing avatar which would be envious by people like me.
But they will only have to wear one avatar until they become full member, because if they try to change, they are blacked out  Grin
Is this verified information? That is, these newbie accounts will not be able to change their avatar?

I will not say that it is vital to know, but so, the question is purely out of curiosity. Moreover, these accounts have not been active for many years and are unlikely to return to the forum just to change their avatar. Smiley

This story is funny with newbies and avatars. Let these accounts continue to be a kind of historical exhibits of the forum and remind of the glorious and old times of the forum's birth.
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If any of these accounts are still active, they would be enjoying some privilege as newbies wearing avatar which would be envious by people like me.
But they will only have to wear one avatar until they become full member, because if they try to change, they are blacked out  Grin
legendary
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The basic rules of forum us you have to be full member to use avatar in your profile. But I've seen some accounts are useing avatar and their  rank is newbie, jr.member, and member.  we cannot use avatar in low rank profiles .. But I saw those accounts is wearing avatar in there profile....
Let me tell you a secret... all this members you mentioned had a super special time machine so they could get back in time and get this avatars easily, and some members even scored animated avatars  Wink
Joke aside, it's not hard to rank up quickly if you are active and contributing forum, than you can add any avatar you want.
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Op though I like your question. Instead of ignoring what you don't know, you asked it and got a respond from then users. You have also helped others who did not know it before.

Really this is a very new information for me and i never knew there are old Newbie account who wore avatars back in the time when Avatar was allowed on Newbie status. However sad to see that none of those accounts are active now a days.

Sometime i think why Theymos ban the avator for the Newbies and what is the disadvantage in Newbie wears an avatar ?
I have read some time again the reason why newbies could no longer allowed to wear avatar. You can check here to see more https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10948133. I like it in this way that newbies can not wear avatar and signature because they would over abuse it.

theymos consider all the possible ways before stopping newbies to water avatar. Just the ancient ones would have been automatically remove. Or is it that, they are lefrover for future reference .
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With this thread, I found an answer to your question.

Avatars were disabled due to some kind of exploit back around October 2013.
They were re-enabled in 2015 on April 1st (it wasn't a prank lol) and also the Full Member requirement was introduced.
So regarding the UID range my educated guess would be 1 - 155000

So beyond this date October 2013, all members on this forum can able to wear avatars.  So they're here for a long time.
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When I see that I find it funny and I ask myself why?
I won't blame them but I think is because of over confidence which isn't proper when it come to this forum.
I did it at first when I fit applied for a campaign think that if I wear their Avatar that they'd pick me, poor me, was a novice then but after I saw that sign CFNP I felt bad.
So since then I said won't until I'm being accepted.
To all newbies just wait for your time to come
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Op though I like your question. Instead of ignoring what you don't know, you asked it and got a respond from then users. You have also helped others who did not know it before.

Really this is a very new information for me and i never knew there are old Newbie account who wore avatars back in the time when Avatar was allowed on Newbie status. However sad to see that none of those accounts are active now a days.

Sometime i think why Theymos ban the avator for the Newbies and what is the disadvantage in Newbie wears an avatar ?
legendary
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2011 and now is a very long time, 12years in between and a lot ha changed on the forum between then and now. Some of them is newbies not having to wear avatars. Perhaps you could try gor accounts created after the merit system was updated.

These accounts from wu back 2011 could as well have been ranked up as legendary members or some of the top ranks around should they have been a little more active but, they evidently weren't and as such, they remain newbies still.

The Puss in Boots avatar though, kiddy kiddy cat cat, mew!
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As you can see, these accounts were created a very long time ago. Back then, newbies were able to wear avatars.

Thank you for this clear explanation and I believe the OP understands the reason why the aforementioned account had the avatars. And also from my own research, the activeness of the accounts are far date back.
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Op though I like your question. Instead of ignoring what you don't know, you asked it and got a respond from then users. You have also helped others who did not know it before.
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