Newbie guide to ASIC vendors - page 3.

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2014, 01:53:13 PM

Why do you insist on posting so many falsehoods about BFL? BFL's 28nm is not "already 2 - 3 months late," it's less than a month "late" if you can even say that as we never guaranteed a timeframe. On top of that, "no sign of silicon" is just completely false.

GG for posting FUD!

You promised first shipment to your first monarch customers for october/november. Maybe you forgot with all the delays you announce, it must be hard to keep track. But we are mid january and you dont even have chips. Of course its possible you are on track with your internal schedule, but clearly not with the one you published.

As for no silicon in sight, I have not seen any, and neither have you. So eat that.

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2014, 01:53:13 PM

Why do you insist on posting so many falsehoods about BFL? BFL's 28nm is not "already 2 - 3 months late," it's less than a month "late" if you can even say that as we never guaranteed a timeframe. On top of that, "no sign of silicon" is just completely false.

GG for posting FUD!

lol What! ," it's less than a month "late" but you "nerver guaranteed a timeframe" LOL come on dude!/

Guy's lets stick to the subject "Newbie guide to ASIC vendors"!

Thanks Grin

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2014, 01:53:13 PM

Why do you insist on posting so many falsehoods about BFL? BFL's 28nm is not "already 2 - 3 months late," it's less than a month "late" if you can even say that as we never guaranteed a timeframe. On top of that, "no sign of silicon" is just completely false.

GG for posting FUD!

Sadly Inaba is correct. On all counts.

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Why do you insist on posting so many falsehoods about BFL? BFL's 28nm is not "already 2 - 3 months late," it's less than a month "late" if you can even say that as we never guaranteed a timeframe. On top of that, "no sign of silicon" is just completely false.

GG for posting FUD!

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Quote from: Puppet on January 14, 2014, 11:02:43 AM

added some words about asicminer, and fixed some typo's.

And Ignored the biggest ASIC ever to hit bitcoin.

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added some words about asicminer, and fixed some typo's.

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Quote from: Puppet on January 08, 2014, 05:21:37 PM

Quote from: MWNinja on January 07, 2014, 02:14:03 PM

You missed the first ASIC company to bring a product to market - ASICMiner. Sells overpriced outdated technology at prices where the only one seeing ROI is ASICMiner.

Well, I didnt forget them, but they dont seem to selling (directly) to end users anymore in so far they are still selling anything at all, so Im not sure its that relevant for this thread.

I think it is relevant, mainly because a lot of newbies start out by scanning ebay to see what they can find, and it's knee-deep in Block Erupters. So I'd add an entry for it, and just note that it's mainly in the secondary market now.

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Quote from: Puppet on January 10, 2014, 05:53:37 PM

Quote from: DyslexicZombei on January 10, 2014, 05:29:07 PM

KnC Jupiters (over 10 miners): 100% hardware issue rate (as in: we've been seeing problems with every miner received)

Ouch. Where those all batch 1 jupiters? Also curious how he is rating KnC's customer support in dealing with the issues.
Anyway, downgraded KnC from 4.5 to 4, as Bobsag isnt exactly the only one reporting fairly severe QC issues.

This is a 50/50 mix of Batch 1 and 2 Jupiters.

KnC can be a little slow about shipping replacement hardware. I'm guessing we're not the only ones needing replacement parts. That's normal in the biz...the hardware issue rate of 100% our guys are seeing with our KnC miners is not normal for the biz. The Bitmains have proven to be much less problematic for us.

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Quote from: Ytterbium on January 12, 2014, 08:03:33 PM

I'm reselling some BTCGarden based hardware in the US, if anyone's interested. Hopefully sending my first shipments on Monday, if anyone orders.

I think Unicorn Hasher should be added to the list as well. Pre-orders are coming soon and we are shipping the Baby Unicorn Miner right now.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-unicornhasher-as-featured-on-the-cover-of-business-insider-412586

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I'm reselling some BTCGarden based hardware in the US, if anyone's interested. Hopefully sending my first shipments on Monday, if anyone orders.

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Quote from: de_ixie on January 07, 2014, 10:05:33 AM

Quote from: Puppet on January 07, 2014, 09:36:18 AM

Quote from: de_ixie on January 07, 2014, 09:25:42 AM

Good start. From private experience - despite everything positive KnC achieved - they majorly screwed up hosting and forced me into refunding my Oct Jupiters mid of October - and I know that I am not the only one who paid for their "premium" hosting upfront and received second hand treatment. They skipped order chain and delivered "postal" and "pick up" orders weeks before hosted. I suspect this is also the reason why they do not offer hosting for Neptune atm - Never ever, ever I would recommend KnC hosting... never... period. I would not deduct any points in your rating - they did an amazing job overall. Maybe just mention to treat KnC hosting with big caution.

Thats an excellent point I had overseen/forgotten. Indeed, their hosting service was quite a disaster (and way overpriced). Whats the situation on that now? Are they at all hosting for customers ? Did they refund the hosting and allow you to self host your miner?

The situation when I stopped following KnC hosting debacle:

- First: They advertised premium price "hosting" with "hashing a few hours after production of your rig" - this is why ppl bought it -> big fail Roll Eyes

- They hosted day1 / day 2 customers almost in timely manner (late, but with somewhat fair compensation)
- After that: They delivered *postal* and *pick-up* orders following the order chain
- They skipped order chain for "hosted orders", around mid of Oct I saw people after me in the order chain presenting their rigs here in the forum
- I called KnC and asked for clarification. Answer: We dont know when our hosting will go online and no it was not possible to transfer "hosted" orders to "pick up" or "delivery" due to different design of "home-product" and "hosted-product"
- They offered me USD refund. I ended up with giving them a 4 month free loan and around 10% financial loss due to USD -> EUR currency change
- After that dunno, I heard they compensated "hosting" after day1/ day2 as well
- Overall a big mess for me - 10% financial loss and had to cancel my order. I funded KnC in early June and got screwed. Just my sad meaningless story - but still I know there were others in the same situation. Treat KnC hosting with caution and expect delays and skipping of order chain

Same exact story for me. No miners, lost revenue, super disappointed especially on the very poor communication from KnC. Do not do hosting with them.

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I want to thank everyone for taking their time to respond to this thread (and the thread op of course)

, it has been very informative.

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I think KnC deserve a 5+ for overpromising and overdelivering. Grin

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Should ASICMINER be up there? There have been blades, sticks and cubes as the only real hardware you could reliably get your hands on for quite some time.

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Quote from: DyslexicZombei on January 10, 2014, 05:29:07 PM

Updating my scores and editing my OP based on new info:

KnC Jupiters (over 10 miners): 100% hardware issue rate (as in: we've been seeing problems with every miner received)
Bitmain (we have dozens of these miners) : 2% hardware issue rate

YMMV: but that's what we're seeing in the DZ Miners Cooperative.

So my top 3 ASIC mfgs at this time are:

#3 KnC
#2 Black Arrow
#1 Bitmain

hmmmm

i wonder where you got the new info Grin

hint hint

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4435258

hint hint Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/with-so-many-miner-in-the-market-what-would-be-the-best-buy-out-there-403921

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You should also quote gnar1ta$ in this guide:

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Losing hundreds of Bitcoins with the best scammers in the business - BFL, Avalon, KNC, HashFast.

I'm fairly certain we've lost thousands not hundreds at this point. I believe we have pre-ordered every Asic Ever. Oops should stuck with money printing GPU's.

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Quote from: DyslexicZombei on January 10, 2014, 05:29:07 PM

KnC Jupiters (over 10 miners): 100% hardware issue rate (as in: we've been seeing problems with every miner received)

Ouch. Where those all batch 1 jupiters? Also curious how he is rating KnC's customer support in dealing with the issues.
Anyway, downgraded KnC from 4.5 to 4, as Bobsag isnt exactly the only one reporting fairly severe QC issues.

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Updating my scores and editing my OP based on new info:

KnC Jupiters (over 10 miners): 100% hardware issue rate (as in: we've been seeing problems with every miner received)
Bitmain (we have dozens of these miners) : 2% hardware issue rate

YMMV: but that's what we're seeing in the DZ Miners Cooperative.

So my top 3 ASIC mfgs at this time are:

#3 KnC
#2 Black Arrow
#1 Bitmain

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Quote from: MWNinja on January 07, 2014, 02:14:03 PM

You missed the first ASIC company to bring a product to market - ASICMiner. Sells overpriced outdated technology at prices where the only one seeing ROI is ASICMiner.

Well, I didnt forget them, but they dont seem to selling (directly) to end users anymore in so far they are still selling anything at all, so Im not sure its that relevant for this thread.

I did add VMC, I somehow seemed to have forgotten them, and Im surprised no one thought of pointing that out.

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