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legendary
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August 08, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
#47
It will be removed automatically as soon as you become a junior member.
legendary
Activity: 1456
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July 28, 2015, 01:45:11 AM
#46
cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" Huh  Roll Eyes    
i feel my name is unique.  (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...)
thanks

that will require Theymos and/or Badbear or whoever to manually keep track of EVERY new users that have a similar name with some other user. that's too much trouble for nothing little benefits.

Speaking of "newbie" i refer to design flawn in this particular status: I may have not been posting much,  yet not new either.  (Other status may be less flawned, yet crypto currencies live on egalitarian ideals)  Feedback/trust is already implemented.

Similarity in names(, if that's all,) can be done through "string similarity algorithms"  (i'd be up to help). Fraud prevention by message style similarity (short quotes) wont be too hard either. Labeling users by IP networks may already be in place too


On similar names I'm guessing you mean when someone tries to look like another user.   The newbie warning helped stop scams, and people really do throw negative trust quick so they are not going to scam people.

As far as IP admins check on it.   We don't know all of what they do as it should be.  If we had a list of how all they use it people could try to avoid all the way's they use it.
full member
Activity: 608
Merit: 100
July 27, 2015, 10:28:34 PM
#45
cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" Huh  Roll Eyes    
i feel my name is unique.  (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...)
thanks

that will require Theymos and/or Badbear or whoever to manually keep track of EVERY new users that have a similar name with some other user. that's too much trouble for nothing little benefits.

Speaking of "newbie" i refer to design flawn in this particular status: I may have not been posting much,  yet not new either.  (Other status may be less flawned, yet crypto currencies live on egalitarian ideals)  Feedback/trust is already implemented.

Similarity in names(, if that's all,) can be done through string similarity algorithms  (easy).
Fraud prevention by message style similarity (short quotes) wont be too hard either.
Labeling users by IP networks may already be in place too
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1077
July 23, 2015, 05:33:07 PM
#44
I'd rather have it than not and thinks its a good addition to the forum but I'm like Somekindabitcoin and always double check when trading to make sure the person is who they say they are. Any change to the forum to reduce possible scams is good in my book Smiley.
copper member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1007
hee-ho.
July 23, 2015, 05:18:47 PM
#43
personally I don't mind the warnings but if some people don't like it then I think it'll be far easier for all sides if there's an option for it, like how we can disable signature. of course it should be enabled by default.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
July 23, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
#42
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?

You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it Smiley

so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question?

OMG You are more annoying than the message, please read my post again. I double check every account, address and signed message I get, so I can't be scammed when doing a trade!

I read your post. but it doesn't exactly answer the post you're answering to.  Roll Eyes

I know, but it's hard to answer this question.. annoyed by the warning or be scammed by an impostor? Like I said, I can't be scammed if the account + private key isn't hacked, I always ask for a signed message.. and warning is really annoying, so I can't aster this question without lying, but if I must to answer it, I would that it's better to get annoyed by those warnings.. Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1036
July 23, 2015, 04:53:39 PM
#41
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?

You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it Smiley

so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question?

OMG You are more annoying than the message, please read my post again. I double check every account, address and signed message I get, so I can't be scammed when doing a trade!

I read your post. but it doesn't exactly answer the post you're answering to.  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 518
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July 23, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
#40
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?

You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it Smiley

so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question?

OMG You are more annoying than the message, please read my post again. I double check every account, address and signed message I get, so I can't be scammed when doing a trade!
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1036
July 23, 2015, 04:42:48 PM
#39
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?

You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it Smiley

so you rather get scammed by an impostor than being annoyed by some trivial things? or did you misread redsn0w's question?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
July 23, 2015, 04:26:10 PM
#38
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?

You are wrong, at least in my case.. Like I said I double check the account before any trade is made, same as the address and the signed message I get, it's kinda annoying for me, but yeah, I can live with it Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1778
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July 23, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
#37
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...

I think it is better to be 'annoyed' by those warnings, than be scammed by an impostor ... or am I wrong?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
July 23, 2015, 04:19:27 PM
#36
This is a great update, but can we disable this? I'm really aware of any imposter, because I check the account twice when I do any type of a deal here. It's really annoying to see this message 5 times in a group conversation in PMs...
copper member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1007
hee-ho.
July 22, 2015, 08:44:20 PM
#35
cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" Huh  Roll Eyes    
i feel my name is unique.  (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...)
thanks

that will require Theymos and/or Badbear or whoever to manually keep track of EVERY new users that have a similar name with some other user. that's too much trouble for nothing little benefits.
full member
Activity: 608
Merit: 100
July 22, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
#34
cant you just put this message for imposter/similar names instead of all "newbies" Huh  Roll Eyes     
i feel my name is unique.  (this was unexpected degradation, i would have chosen another communication channel...)
thanks
legendary
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Merit: 9709
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May 15, 2015, 10:50:22 AM
#33
Fair play to theymos for taking steps to stop people getting scammed by newbie accounts.
People shouldn't really shouldn't be getting scammed in that way though.
No offence intended to anybody but it's a bit dumb to get caught out that way.
Take care people but use your brains.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
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May 14, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
#32
Here is very good example on how effective the new Newbee PM warning is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/casascius-10btc-silver-round-w-gold-b-813238

Before, potentially buyers would get the exact same type of message by PM.
But that do not work now, instead they have to launch their phishing attempts in the thread,
where many users monitor the activity and can react fast to prevent the scam.

copper member
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1032
May 10, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
#31
This seems to be a good feature, just now i saw a PM i received and i was utterly Confused about why has that guy wrote those words to me and i PM'e him back , asking about it , on which he said he didn't do anything. Now i see it has been added as a new feature to the Forum.
That is good but when i reply im back , it get's added to my message and i had to manually remove it ! Can something be done about that?

I just got here from seeing this message, It somewhat startled me, But I nearly responded with it, It could put new users in turmoil seeing this from a hero+ member.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
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May 04, 2015, 06:52:44 AM
#30
I think this is an excellent improvement. Thank you Smiley

I got a PM from a newbie the other day (without knowing about this improvement) I noticed the warning right away.
For the record the PM from the newbie was legit, it is a user with a 1 year old account which is just not very active, I have done a number of trades with this person.
Nevertheless the warning made me check an extra time that in fact it was the right person I communicated with.
staff
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May 03, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
#29
Thank you for this Grin
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1077
May 03, 2015, 07:11:53 PM
#28
This is a really good security implementation. Reminded me of DannyHamilton's post:

There are scammers that will create a userID that looks VERY similar to a trusted bitcointalk user (or that will purchase an old account that already has some trust feedback).  They will then contact you pretending to be the trusted user.  Make sure that you are talking to the person you think you are.

Here are some examples of such scammers. If you click on the userID you can see that they are not me and that they have negative feedback:
DanmyHamilton
dannyham¡lton
DannyHarnilton
DannyHamliton
DannyHamiltonn
DannyHamillton
DannyHamlton
DannyHamiltton
DannyHamiliton
DannyHamiliton
Danny Hamillton

Most of the best escrow providers in this forum have provided their public PGP key and will sign communications if you ask them to.  It would be a good idea to have the public keys of all the escrow providers that you might consider using in the future and learn how to verify a PGP signature.

Yes that's a prime example, fucking scamming shitbags creating new usernames like trusted originals.
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