Topic: [!!NEWBIE WARNING!!] CampBX INFO YOU MUST KNOW Bitstamp and Localbitcoins are OK (Read 7993 times)

Like I said cashed, I made the mistake of not putting my username on it, however all my other information on the MO matches EXACTLY to my verification information(which they have now upgraded me to verified so they have this info) (first one of two images):
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This BS fiasco continues... check this out -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/campbx-is-lying-about-not-depositing-my-mos-vs-moneygram-saying-they-did-283905


Now he's magically claiming my MOs never got deposited.  And now when I get the photocopies of them just like you do a cashed check (yet Keyur says it wasn't deposited, YET MONEYGRAM says the EXACT OPPOSITE!!!)

My God I swear I'm so fed up with this type of behavior I feel like I'm going to lose it.

Bump.. and update:

My account as of TODAY 8/28 till shows as unverified and funds still not available despite MOs being cashed on 8/22 and verification documents emailed 8/15.

Currently speaking with appropiate authorities, apparently Keyur also had a failed business he ran out of India.  I really could care less about that fact but, they probably told me so that I have an understanding of this person somewhat.  Now you all know to.  They suspect and I quite rightfully think this to be accurate that what he's doing is similar to the "Bernie Madoff" scam.  He collects funds from other people and uses their money to further advance his own agenda and then if people like me complain he eventually gives them their money, regardless of how it happens it's still illegal and fraudulent.  If you would also like to talk to the same people I have been visit -> http://www.stopfraud.gov they have a number on the front page I called.  Since Keyur continues to ignore me(and others) I guess this is what he wants to happen to him.

When your fiasco is over DealMaker you might want to check out bitcoin-brokers.org. They're pretty good for getting bitcoins anonymously within a day

The pattern I'm seeing with those of you with no issues is that you're already customers.  I'd wager that when/if an issue occurs and you need support it will possibly be an extended response as others.  However the other side of that is that since you are established you're possibly given priority therefore causing new accounts to experience delays they were not informed of based upon speculation of that potential bias.  I really don't know what to say at this point but, I know when I'm ignored that is the worst level of customer support anyone can experience, whether a new or old customer.

I've also never had any real issues with them. I can have my money from my bank to Dwolla and into CampBX in less than 5 minutes. There is no quicker way to do it.

Interesting how you and others are having good experiences.  The only thing I can say that seems to be different vs mine and the others complaints is that you possibly signed up when Keyur was just starting out.  Now that Keyur is rolling in the $$$ he's basically treating people that are new like "whatever".

Thanks for your feedback though, it's something to think about while I get ready....

Let me know when CampBX is still waiting to deliver your funds after 120 days, then we can talk.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/incoming-avalon-news-892013-269950

BTW, I agree that your problems should be resolved by now. I never said CampBX was above criticism here. Just that when there are hundreds of others with no major issues, I tend to be suspicious.

I did not apply any "feeling" to this. 

It's a business transaction in which I followed the written policies of 5 days to verification(sent on 8/15 and per policy written my account verified by 8/21).  Which you are obviously ignoring and avoiding the fact of so I can't help but continue to think you're associated with Keyur or you are him because ignoring seems to be his speciality; the fact is the man wrote on his website that it takes 5 business days to complete verification. 

If anything I "felt" it was that I should follow what he's written and that by the time he receives my MOs(sent 2 days later on a Saturday then received by him on Tuesday then cashed out on Thurs 8/22), then per this man's own written words on this man's website that my account should be verified and my funds available without issue, again all per his own writings not mine.  Therefore (without feeling anything) I would have no reason to expect anything less than what was written.  Why is this fact so hard for you to understand or grasp?  Are you not used to people writing things and then following through with that?  I can only garner from your lack of business understanding that the idea of following written guidelines is either alien or foreign to you.  What if someone wrote to you claiming to send you xx BTC?  Would you not expect them to do what they have written?

So you don't feel that sending over $1,000, BEFORE you were verified, has anything to do with the delay? 

From the CampBX website:



So let's see if I can decipher your ignorant jumbled mess here at an attempt to attack me for pointing out issues with Campbx, which you are sadly trying to distract from. 

I've already broken down your other weak, unsubstantiated remarks.  Attempting to attack me further simply gives me that much more credit.  As I stated I'm not going to argue with you or debate anything and look like the fool you are now confirming yourself to be with these continued statements (which cannot be intellectually defended because now you're trying to find grammatical mistakes which have nothing to do with the issue at hand).

I've already explained my position, reasoning, and determination in sending the funds which was done per Campbx's policy.  It is not, will never be, and still isn't my fault that Keyur is unable/chooses not to follow his own written policies.  Therefore I cannot be held accountable for following what was written and also basing the actual times of delivery on that (this is how a business operates but, I realize this is foreign to an amateur such as yourself.)

It is becoming much more apparent that you and Keyur have a relationship because now you can't even defend his (in)actions properly.  Absolutely amazing you're spending time to attempt these weak, totally off-topic attacks.  Please do attempt further dissection of my phrases and words but, continue to avoid dissecting the real issue at hand:

CampBX is not performing as they claim, as they've written, and are having the same issues with others.

Are these your words from the OP? "kinda", "sort of" and "new" ARE big words, so I guess I assumed wrong.  


From the CampBX website:

So, yeah good luck with your life; I'm sure with your defensiveness and personal attack posture you'll have a great time. No one "sent" me here and CampBX is not "my" site. I was simply offering an alternative point of view. Clearly you already know everything, so I'll leave you to your "business".  

I have very recently completed two small money order deposits using Camp Bx with no problems and quick postings to my account. I hope they can resolve your problem soon.

I have pretty much just had good experiences with CampBX too.  My one complaint about them might be that they misrepresent the margin and short selling abilities of their trading system because I have never had those options available, even though I've had a few thousand USD in there before.  And when I emailed customer service about it, I received no reply.

But that being said the site does what it is mainly intended to do and they haven't stolen or lost my money so I like them and am a fairly good customer at this point.

Actually it's not.  I'm fully verified on all the other major exchanges and have transferred plenty as well.  I have an ASIC mining farm I built myself from the ground up BEFORE the GPUs started running out of the race, now those same GPUs are earning me massive LTC.  I haven't signed up to the litecoin forum but, I'm sure some low-intelligence type of folk like you will assume the same "newbie" status out of ignorance.  I'm new to this board because I felt it time to contribute my programming skills and I had intended to give exchanges I've dealt with good reviews.  I never intended or even thought I would be dealing with the situation like I am now with Campbx.  If my money/verification went as Keyur states on his website then I would be spending my time with my trading, etc instead of it being free now to deal with this problem.  Unlike you I know how to articulate my thoughts into statements of value and inspiration.  You think it's spamming however, it's far from it because none of the messages are the same.  Hence it does not equal/qualify as spam.  To the unintelligent it might because of the big words being used.

Actually I did here in my 1st post 7th paragraph, approximately 4th sentence; which you would have seen if you read it plus also in subsequent posts.

I also explained this as well.  I was simply following what Keyur had posted on his campbx website, I also outlined the dates and in following those dates per Keyur's timeframe.  So it's now my fault for following his guidelines?  How was I to know this individual was not going to operate as they claim?  Since I run a business and he runs a business are timeframes and delivery no longer imporant and we just make up what we want when we want to do it?

Actually it appears you're simply attempting to defend injustice, intellectual laziness and downright unethical behavior.  I have every right to make as much noise as possible when a business transaction does not go as advertised.  If you think I do not then please give me all your money and when I feel like doing whatever it is you think I'm going to with it then I will...when I feel like it.

Your statements appear to come from a "hobbyist" point of view.  I've made it crystal clear, I'm not a hobbyist.  Your excuses for this person's mishandling, disregard and actual non-resolution show that you're coming from a non-business viewpoint.  Read what I've actually written, again in the first post instead of having Keyur get you to come here and respond with another lame duck answer/excuse for not doing what you purported to on your website.

I will never lay down to anyone who does not do what they say they will or thoroughly when it comes to my money.  If you don't like that then you don't know what it means to have to work hard to get what you've got.

If people like you accept this behavior it will destroy the massive potential Bitcoin has.

I've moved thousands of dollars through CampBX with 0% problems. I understand this may be your first venture into bitcoin, based on your new status and spamming of the board with CampBX threads.
There is currently no corporate/business that can get you fiat--->bitcoin or vice versa; fast. It takes time and you need to anticipate that. I also learned this when bitcoin hit $260+ and I looked into cashing some coin out. If you didn't already have your exchange account ready, there was no way to move on that bubble.
You didn't mention how you sent your KYC verification, but you sent your MO(s) via snail mail. I'm not 100% sure why you would send money when you weren't verified yet. This could be part of the problem. Especially since you sent more than is allowed for unverified users.
So I feel your pain in not being able to access the funds you provided, but chill out and allow CampBX to resolve the issues. If you are spamming them as much as you are the forum here, it is not helping your cause.
I would suggest in your future ventures to try a small amount first to see how easy/hard it is to move currency and then proceed and evaluate from there. I sure hope you know to test bitcoin wallet before sending a large amount of coin there as well.
Welcome to the world of bitcoin.  

And as predicted they are causing problems for others so these others have no recourse but, to go to the govt for help:


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Full version available here:
https://www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/business-services-general/bulbul-investments-in-alpharetta-ga-27474482/complaints#


This would be absolutely unnecessary if...hold for it...THEY DID THE RIGHT THING

Which thread?  You've got so many complaints starting to pile up that I have gone into so many I don't remember.  That's why when I post I'm pulling them here so we can organize and resolve whatever is going on.  So to just say "another thread" is not helpful because you are building a lot of negative threads against you for your actions (or lack thereof).

Yes I started posting on those threads to bring everyone together against you (or whoever at Campbx) because you are not treating us like customers as you should be.  You are not conducting yourself as a business that you purport to be, you are not conducting business in a "reliable and timely fashion" as your twitter and facebook accounts stipulate.  So yes I have reason, justification, proof, verification and evidence as to why I should yell as loud as I possibly can in defense of my funds, my identification and others who've also got the same CURRENT issues with you.  It would never reach this level if you conducted yourself as you state on all your identifying marketing materials.  Or even if you had the courtesy to simply respond, which you also haven't done on my support tickets except the one I noted in this thread.

So this is what happens when you ignore a businessman for over a week (for no reason) and then send a support response so vague that it sounds like I'm listening to a politician speak.  I think as most people would agree that "discussion" has gone on long enough.  If you want to discuss then do it here in the open as I have.  If you are truly a business person then you must have the realization that excuses at this point are not replacements for doing the right thing.  No more discussion, whatever you're doing (or lack thereof) needs to be corrected immediately.  I'm running a business not a hobby and since your website, your profile and everything surrounding Campbx is also listed as a "business" I have (as the others who are MUCH MORE angrier than I am) have rightfully come to expect.  If you need help, hire competent help (I offered and you ignored), if you're having issues inform everyone instead of hiding in the dark, if you're a legit business CONDUCT YOURSELF AS SUCH.  No one on this forum, or in emails or in PMs or in any communications to you should have to go through the level of documentation I have to simply get you to conduct yourself as you present yourself, that is ridiculous.

For everyone's info this is the thread "Keyur" didn't reference in his message -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2993053

Of which I will respond to here to keep things neat and tidy for the large audience that is amassing now because of my clear, concise documentation:

From "Keyur @ CampBX" posted on -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2993053


My answers:
1) Have you even read your own webpage at https://campbx.com/kyc.php?  If not why?  If so why would you still give me an answer like that when I have a business to run?  Also if you ignore my offers of assistance and most likely others why would you give an answer like that?  Are you going to pay for everyday I lose money that has gone past Aug 21st, 2013; which by your own policies states I should be verified?  Are you even aware that no business that depends on you to be: A) compliant as you CLAIM, B) "reliable and timely" cannot operate within those parameters?

2) Why would I have to PM you the ticket number when I already explained (numerous times) here, AND in the initial support tickets that I responded to (which you still haven't) as to exactly what's going (hell even the readers know)?  With even the slightest research you would see my name here is the EXACT same name as on your system.  Why would I send you money just to have it canceled?  If that was the case I could just hold it in my hand close my eyes and pretend it went somewhere; then cancel that pretend scenario, open my eyes and my money is back.  Besides that how can I even believe you at this point that you would actually do that when so far you haven't done what you state on your website, you ignored me, you ignored others and have JUST NOW written something AFTER ALL THAT?  At this point your options are becoming limited in A) do the right thing or B) prepare.  Campbx has wasted an enormous amount of my time and if this continues without resolution I will share that problem with you in dealing with me.  Stop wasting time making up excuses and use that time to do what you claim (I don't care about backlog because you have plenty of funds to hire people so that line isn't going to work with me, I've estimated well over $10,000 has been sent to you in the last several months via MO so you have zero excuses for hiring even the simplest of data entry personnel to do this.)

These "questions" you pose are nonsense because I already answered these questions in detail PUBLICLY here.  How about you try answering mine and other's questions with actual answers of resolution instead of obvious delay tactics?  I've been in business for over 15 years and trust me when I tell you this, you're acting no different than anyone else I've dealt with in that timeframe who's not conducting business properly.  Believe me when I tell you this: It ain't my first time at the rodeo.  So don't ask me questions like that which are an insult to my intelligence AND experience.  If you haven't figured it out by now I'M NOT AN AMATEUR.

DM,

     Looks like you are posting on multiple threads at a rapid pace - I have already replied to another thread.  Let's continue the discussion there.

- Keyur

Just so everyone knows this is the PM I sent to "Keyur @ Campbx":


Again just so you folks know I'm not wanting to pursue ANY legal action but, I have business to run and I'm NOT in this to have people RUN with my Identification details OR MY MONEY.