Topic: Newbies/Jr members please don't beg for merits. - page 2. (Read 757 times)
Most of the newbies here begging for the merits are simply here to make money from the bounty sections and not contribute towards raising this forum. And at such, users that take such actions should be made to understand what they are really here for.
Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit. This is an act maybe violated by the one who ask or beg for it but it is also the fault if the one giving the merit. Well, it is not bad though to gave merits and it is a discretion for the one to give it or not. If I were the one being asked or beg for the merits then I would suggest for him to post something quality so that I can give him the merit/s.
Nope I didn't give any merit to the user since it's not good to give merit to those user who ask for it since I believe merit should be earn.
There is a thread where OGgNasty created which can help them earn their very first merit for just doing some task he ask there.
For newbies just click the link below.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-hey-newbies-can-you-sign-a-message-5275043
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-hey-bitcoiners-can-you-send-encrypted-messages-5289839
I am new but I know all the rules of btt. I don't pm or dm someone for merits. it's very bad things for newbies they don't know if someone reported to their post to moderator maybe their account for limited time. Correct me if I wrong. Many Person who helped newbies with their topic .
Received a few private message where the senders where begging for merit, some of the message with different partners but had that merit begging instinct, when a newbie think they are lost, under the bus or not capable, I give few advice and point out to look for your strength -what your speck in the forum is- then go to work on it.
Don't beg for merit, instead beg for knowledge, because in time you would see thats where merit lay.
I agree with you, whatever it is asking for merit is something I don't like. If there is, then I will not reply to the message. Actually if they understand about the quality of the post they should be aware. Whether it's friends or people who don't know in this forum, if you have quality posts that are useful and meet the standards, then getting merit is easy. Don't beg for merit, instead beg for knowledge, because in time you would see thats where merit lay.
Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit.
No, Taskford wasn't the one who merited that user. If you check his merit history here, you will see it wasn't him > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=751988.Check the above post I wrote and the one I linked by DdmrDdmr that mentions what the user got merited for. I haven't found the name of the user who begged for those merits though.
Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit. This is an act maybe violated by the one who ask or beg for it but it is also the fault if the one giving the merit. Well, it is not bad though to gave merits and it is a discretion for the one to give it or not. If I were the one being asked or beg for the merits then I would suggest for him to post something quality so that I can give him the merit/s.
What is the difference begging merits and begging for something else ? I just found these rules, and according to them it is not allowed.
You are correct, I completely forgot that we have a no begging rule, although I don't know to what extent it's being enforced and what is the punishment for begging. A simple deletion of posts, or being shown the exit door in case of multiple attempts.Forum rules
7. No begging. [5]This user have been here since 2019 but didn't earn even 1 merit, probably didn't read the forum rules and guides on how to earn merit on the forum. He also probably earned that 1 merit through PMing another user just before your screenshot.
He got it for a post that surely doesn't deserve any merits. Check the post by DdmrDdmr from above. Although everyone has the right to merit anything and anyone they feel like, this kind of post is certainly not what is supposed to be merited. Quote
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Mostly people want it to join the signature and bounty campaign. One part wants it to create trust for others in currency exchanges(In this case I think feedback is of more importance.)
Indeed most newcomers that come to this forum want to rank up for that purpose although there's no much campaign which accepts jr members. In regards to currency exchange with the others I think having jr member or higher rank doesn't immediately increase the people trust on you and as you said before feedback is the most important in this case, it's worthless if you have lots of negative feedback even though you are in a high rank. However begging for merits is the wrong way to rank up no matter whats the reason behind it.
Mostly people want it to join the signature and bounty campaign. One part wants it to create trust for others in currency exchanges(In this case I think feedback is of more importance.)
those who begging for 'merit' are for the sole purpose of seeking profit...I am sure that the new low-level members who just joined this forum deliberately signed up to this forum because they heard from other people that this forum can make money from bounty programs or selling services, their way is wrong. if want to move up the rankings or get 'merit' then make a quality post.
For newbies and Jr members out there please stop begging for merits to any users here since instead of ranking up you will possibly get a red trust from the other user since begging is been discourage.
Just do a pure effort to have a healthy discussion and became a good contributor here since the merit you want will follow if people see your post is merit worthy.
I receive a message today from a user see pic below.
For high ranking members If you see any newbies or Jr members please advise them the proper way to earn merits so that they can improve and became better member, reporting then cannot do anything good.
Hopefully newbies will take this advice/message and will not beg for anything here.
Just do a pure effort to have a healthy discussion and became a good contributor here since the merit you want will follow if people see your post is merit worthy.
I receive a message today from a user see pic below.
For high ranking members If you see any newbies or Jr members please advise them the proper way to earn merits so that they can improve and became better member, reporting then cannot do anything good.
Hopefully newbies will take this advice/message and will not beg for anything here.
Can't agree more with you.
In the past I started several merit giveaway topics for newbies in the beginners section but couldn't find many good candidates.
After closing those topics, I received several unwanted private messages in which newbies begged me for merits.
I didn’t give them a negative or neutral trust but I will think about it next time.
Newbie members should learn how to be patient and how to raise the quality of their forum posts.
Mostly people want it to join the signature and bounty campaign. One part wants it to create trust for others in currency exchanges(In this case I think feedback is of more importance.)
I think much more than rank, their are a lot to gain from the more experienced members of the forum. I've been here for more than a year and I have no merit (which I have no plan to beg for). I know it's because I haven't probably merit it. But the point is newbies should focus on what is more important than the less important ones. Their are lot of things to gain in the forum which is far more important than merit or rank... I'm always happy and full of joy whenever I see higher members responding to a topic because you see them making points from different perspectives and this way, the newbies acquire more knowledge which is more than rank.
Meriting you because you being a newbie are selflessly talking about how to not beg for merits. Newbies should keep this in mind that you will earn merit only when you develop yourself.
You will only be able to develop yourself when you learn what bitcoin and blockchain is about.
It's not about earning profits but about how the revolutionary technology has the potential to change the financial system.
@yemight600 One thing I would like to advise you is that I have noticed you keep joining bounties.
Although that's not wrong, you will be more benefited when you learn more about bitcoin and start contributing towards the forum.
Not only you but this is for every newbie and beginner to bitcoin. Start learning, Start contributing and you will never have to worry about merits.
Yeah you're right. I've been focusing on what is important (bounty) while ignoring what is even more important. I guess that's why I haven't move more than this. This is a big lesson for me because I've learnt my lesson (in hard way though) and I wouldn't want anyone to fall victim like I did. This is why I always want to be more active in newbies forum so I can learn and also pass knowledge because I'm no less than one myself. Thanks for the advise it really means a lot. And that thank you for the merit too (it's equally important)
I think much more than rank, their are a lot to gain from the more experienced members of the forum. I've been here for more than a year and I have no merit (which I have no plan to beg for). I know it's because I haven't probably merit it. But the point is newbies should focus on what is more important than the less important ones. Their are lot of things to gain in the forum which is far more important than merit or rank... I'm always happy and full of joy whenever I see higher members responding to a topic because you see them making points from different perspectives and this way, the newbies acquire more knowledge which is more than rank.
Meriting you because you being a newbie are selflessly talking about how to not beg for merits. Newbies should keep this in mind that you will earn merit only when you develop yourself.
You will only be able to develop yourself when you learn what bitcoin and blockchain is about.
It's not about earning profits but about how the revolutionary technology has the potential to change the financial system.
@yemight600 One thing I would like to advise you is that I have noticed you keep joining bounties.
Although that's not wrong, you will be more benefited when you learn more about bitcoin and start contributing towards the forum.
Not only you but this is for every newbie and beginner to bitcoin. Start learning, Start contributing and you will never have to worry about merits.
I think much more than rank, their are a lot to gain from the more experienced members of the forum. I've been here for more than a year and I have no merit (which I have no plan to beg for). I know it's because I haven't probably merit it. But the point is newbies should focus on what is more important than the less important ones. Their are lot of things to gain in the forum which is far more important than merit or rank... I'm always happy and full of joy whenever I see higher members responding to a topic because you see them making points from different perspectives and this way, the newbies acquire more knowledge which is more than rank.
Received a few private message where the senders where begging for merit, some of the message with different partners but had that merit begging instinct, when a newbie think they are lost, under the bus or not capable, I give few advice and point out to look for your strength -what your speck in the forum is- then go to work on it.
Don't beg for merit, instead beg for knowledge, because in time you would see thats where merit lay.
Don't beg for merit, instead beg for knowledge, because in time you would see thats where merit lay.
This user have been here since 2019 but didn't earn even 1 merit, probably didn't read the forum rules and guides on how to earn merit on the forum. He also probably earned that 1 merit through PMing another user just before your screenshot.
Since the user mentioned he/she is active on forum sales hence had no idea how to earn merit. A user like this should be pointed to the right direction as he/she probably isn't aware of how to use the search option. I do think if people are really serious about being a contributor here they would diligently contribute and earn merit. Unless the user has another motive, he/she need to focus on learning here as majority of us are.
Since the user mentioned he/she is active on forum sales hence had no idea how to earn merit. A user like this should be pointed to the right direction as he/she probably isn't aware of how to use the search option. I do think if people are really serious about being a contributor here they would diligently contribute and earn merit. Unless the user has another motive, he/she need to focus on learning here as majority of us are.
Begging for merits isn't against any of the unofficial forum rules as far as I know, so I don't think the admins would take any actions against such a user.
What is the difference begging merits and begging for something else ? I just found these rules, and according to them it is not allowed.
Forum rules
7. No begging. [5]
This is just simple reminder to newbies since their account might at risk to anything can harm them since we don't know what will came to the minds of other DT members if they receive the same pm asking for merit, so maybe it's best for anyone to not do it and simply do a healthy discussion which can make them worthy for the merit ask.
Anyways hopefully there are people who can learn about this since for sure there are other newbies who's desperate to get a merit.
Anyways hopefully there are people who can learn about this since for sure there are other newbies who's desperate to get a merit.
I've recently received a PM from a user who was close to ranking up, and who proposed me to check out his posts and consider Meriting them. I did not find that problematic and I didn't interpret it as begging.
However, sending messages purely begging for Merit - meaning: without actually explaining why you would deserve Merit - will probably lead to me leaving (neutral) feedback on your profile, like this guy.
However, sending messages purely begging for Merit - meaning: without actually explaining why you would deserve Merit - will probably lead to me leaving (neutral) feedback on your profile, like this guy.
I also disagree that if I see a request for merit, then the account runs the risk of receiving a red trust
Having received PM there is an easier way out, it is called "inform the moderator" Since this message will fit the rule: "29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed."
In general, if newbies take the time and read a few posts on this topic, then we can say that getting merit has become very simple today. It is worth rinsing your eyes a little and looking in the "Beginners & Help" section for the offers of the merit source themselves who give out merit for absolutely minute actions.
Having received PM there is an easier way out, it is called "inform the moderator" Since this message will fit the rule: "29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed."
In general, if newbies take the time and read a few posts on this topic, then we can say that getting merit has become very simple today. It is worth rinsing your eyes a little and looking in the "Beginners & Help" section for the offers of the merit source themselves who give out merit for absolutely minute actions.
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