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Quote from: koincik on September 04, 2018, 09:29:49 AM

Deadline for the 30 September decidement to be announced. I think it will probably be postponed.

yeah likely be postponed again, I read the additional time for a final decision as far as late February of next year. but I hope that the postponed does not make prices fall as in August where the ETF postponed.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

btw where did you get this info?

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I bope after the meeting the SEC all exchange have more benefit how will make all cryptoccurrencies be better than before and the investor can be invest his money

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Quote from: jseverson on September 04, 2018, 07:42:04 AM

What SEC meeting? The one about the remaining Bitcoin ETFs on September 30? If so, then they'll simply make a decision to approve or deny the VanEck ETF.

To note, the other ETFs were denied in part because of the vulnerability of the market to unknown manipulators. That hasn't changed since, so I wouldn't hold my breath for an approval. I don't see any Bitcoin ETFs being approved in the near future because of the nature of the market.

Hopely ETFs approved by regulator considering market condition right now. If ETF approved, i am believe market will more confident and new investor will coming.

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Quote from: zanezane on September 04, 2018, 09:01:59 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

Thanks. I didn't know that there's still three meetings about ETF like I thought it's just one. Huh

Seems many of us are anticipating the probability of postponed approval, this will entirely affect everything, I mean were more than used to it now and no more panic thing will happen and so the market will just be stable. And the least we're expecting nothing.

There are a lot of ETF's prior to this one.Other's though are not well publicized. There are 9 prior ETF proposal and the media put a hype around the Winklevoss ETF's which we all know have been denied.

I also think that the VanEck/SolidX proposal will also be postponed but I believe that with all the past and current proposals, this proposal has the likelihood to be accepted. Anyways, approval or not, bitcoin will remain in the next coming years and this proposal can either bring new influx of cash or just another tool for big players to sort of "manipulate" the price. That's why there's still a big debate whether if we really needed ETF's or not.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

so what was the verdict?
cant find anything in the news regarding that

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

All postponed with a 99% chance in my book. Then 2019, give it at least the first quarter for anything to happen. Chances are 2019 will still not be the year of the ETF. 2019 may be a bear year with lack of news and noobs which have no notions on the fundamentals of bitcoin, becoming really tired of it and selling as we stabilize in a low price. Perhaps we even go as low as $3k or even lower in a big dip that would finally be the end of the bear market, perhaps not and the mining costs theory prevails and we never go below $5k... who knows really. Just be aware that you are lucky to pick cheap coins for the last time because next peak will dwarf the last one.

As far as ETF goes I think 2020 will be it.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

Meh, perhaps they'd be straight up denying these ETFs just like what they did with other promising ETFs that generated a lot of hype as well e.g. Winklevoss ETF and the likes. We are giving too much attention into things that don't seem to add any relevance to the ecosystem except hype and conditional positive events. There's a lot happening around the ecosystem that we simply ignore just because we want a massive price boost from the approval of these ETFs. Perhaps its time to focus on the fundamentals or a new algorithm for better power consumption of the whole network since the whole world (ehem, media) is bitchin' about it lately.

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I think we are giving too much power to USA, I mean sec is just about one country and the ETF is also about one country, these are all USA dealings and for some reason no matter what we do crytpo gets interested in what the USA is going to do and the price is moving according to USA inside deals.

I mean it was the same way on 2008 as well because when the house mortgages were leveraged by the banks there were countries that collapsed economically. I mean why would a whole huge country goes into economical crisis just because some bank in USA leveraged mortgages ?

Well the biggest reason is that people want that american money and when they couldn't this is what happens.

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Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

I think it would be great to have such topic to keep everybody informed about what is going on there

Seems like there's a few for different ETFs ranging from the 7th to the end of the next month as others have already mentioned.

However, we have no idea whether these so called "deadlines" are going to be final yet. Postponement is a real possibility. But rejection is probably the most likely outcome, given that the last few were all rejected as well. There is simply no reason for it to change now.

There is really nothing to watch here. ETFs have gradually eased out of trader's minds as something extremely important because they're starting to realize that it does not benefit the average bitcoin user one bit, but instead, could even have some negative consequences in terms of market manipulation. The only thing that could come out of this decision is that if it was approved, we could see a small rally, but that would be it. If it was rejected, pretty much nothing will happen, not even an adjustment downward based on previous responses to these rejections.

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Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

I think it would be great to have such topic to keep everybody informed about what is going on there

You are right, in this way people will not leave important information about this development, what happens there can be known through information from the topic, maybe the reason for not making such a topic is to avoid posting spam on the forum.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

Thanks. I didn't know that there's still three meetings about ETF like I thought it's just one. Huh

Seems many of us are anticipating the probability of postponed approval, this will entirely affect everything, I mean were more than used to it now and no more panic thing will happen and so the market will just be stable. And the least we're expecting nothing.

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Let's not get too excited. I also believe that they will keep postponing and denying until next year and they must already know that this is making huge waves in the community, so they will keep testing and approve them when it all finally stabilizes. You can already see that it's happening. That second Winklevoss denial made a huge impact (even though it was to be expected), but the denials that followed did not. IMO if we are to expect a market response it will be on the 30.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

Ohh thanks for this information now I know when the next SEC meeting.
Yes, they are right this market did not rely on hype, that ETF did not change the price in the market it is recovered bitcoin itself nothings happen even there is ETF. I think altcoins now did not swing since bitcoin slowly recovered, maybe the best thing to do is diversify your altcoins to bitcoin. But as of now holding is the best choice don't you ever panic selling.

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Quote from: Ilmiyati on September 04, 2018, 10:01:47 AM

September 30 next SEC will determine their decision on Bitcoin ETF. and to be honest now I am very pessimistic the SEC will approve that, because of the many shortcomings in Bitcoin to be included in the ETF criteria. so whatever happens, I don't think it will have a big effect on the crypto world,

Maybe there is no big effect in crypto world but it will have big impact on the mindset of investors to have a positive feedback on bitcoins.

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Quote from: 2weent6 on September 04, 2018, 05:33:51 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

For sure it will be postponed again maybe because of the previous decision about the ETF. A lot of hype being created in this news, and maybe people will start to panic again. But SEC knows better and I believe they will support cryptocurrency so no matter what the result is, we can still see this market pumping.

That is why this time market did not hyped and increased suddenly but it is now taking its own time and moving up slowly, so now we have to see is what will be the result of this slow price increase in bitcoin and all other altcoin are going down. Mostly if i am wrong all of them are selling their altcoins and converting it to btc as they know btc price will increase.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Quote from: Mightywill on September 04, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

When? And what is on the agenda?

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

For sure it will be postponed again maybe because of the previous decision about the ETF. A lot of hype being created in this news, and maybe people will start to panic again. But SEC knows better and I believe they will support cryptocurrency so no matter what the result is, we can still see this market pumping.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 04, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

Next one is in 7 September (Bitwise).
Then 21 September (Direxion), and only after that it's the 30 September VanEck / SolidX, which is causing a lot of hype. But all of them can be postponed afaik.

Thanks for sharing that.

I do not think that these decisions have a significant impact on the market as it has reached the conviction that none of them will be accepted shortly. "Until trading platforms dominate."

To @OP: Do not build investment plans on acceptance because I do not expect a change, but you can take advantage of this information in short-term speculation.

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September 30 next SEC will determine their decision on Bitcoin ETF. and to be honest now I am very pessimistic the SEC will approve that, because of the many shortcomings in Bitcoin to be included in the ETF criteria. so whatever happens, I don't think it will have a big effect on the crypto world,

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Quote from: jseverson on September 04, 2018, 07:42:04 AM

What SEC meeting? The one about the remaining Bitcoin ETFs on September 30? If so, then they'll simply make a decision to approve or deny the VanEck ETF.

To note, the other ETFs were denied in part because of the vulnerability of the market to unknown manipulators. That hasn't changed since, so I wouldn't hold my breath for an approval. I don't see any Bitcoin ETFs being approved in the near future because of the nature of the market.

Indeed in our market there is still a lot of manipulation and others, I think it will be very difficult something to be positive in the eyes of the SEC, that is the main reason where manipulation is still going on in our lives, so for a little not thinking about it has been very long and there is rejection in the previous agreement, currently only focused on the market because we were crawling towards a real recovery before the end of this year.

I do not expect more than the second decision to be held on 30 September, anything will be accepted and will not panic myself, think well because we are still using cryptocurrency without interference from other people or the government is a little dislike of this progress, take the good side, we far away in this market, do not weaken under any circumstances.

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