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hero member
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Sorry, I don't follow what you asked re Heritage repping coins graded by PCGS and others Etc. Heritage offer coins which have been graded by all the main firms of course np, and not just NGC, they happened to choose to use them for my coins on that occasion, maybe because they offered them a better deal than PCGS or something, I don't know the details for why though myself.

Big surprise, NGC have just notified me of a huge U turn, so it looks like they are happy to accept Casascius coins, at least, for grading after all now, and would also take notes like Polymerbit on a test trial type basis with no fee if they decided that they couldn't grade submitted ones.


If it helps the credibility for NGC to help onboard grading by PMG, PCGS has already graded at least 100+ Polymerbit notes

Many thanks MJ, I'll mention that when I submit some to them soon, I did link them to a nice PCGS graded Polymerbit note which I'd won recently at Stack's Bowyer when I first approached them re PMG grading for these, so I'm sure that they're aware.

Hey Otoh have you already sent/dropped off the trial polymerbit notes to NGC? Let us know if you get any update, very interested to see if they will grade Polymerbit at PMG, would be an insane win for crypto bank notes!
donator
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Many thanks MJ, I'll mention that when I submit some to them soon, I did link them to a nice PCGS graded Polymerbit note which I'd won recently at Stack's Bowyer when I first approached them re PMG grading for these, so I'm sure that they're aware.
legendary
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Sorry, I don't follow what you asked re Heritage repping coins graded by PCGS and others Etc. Heritage offer coins which have been graded by all the main firms of course np, and not just NGC, they happened to choose to use them for my coins on that occasion, maybe because they offered them a better deal than PCGS or something, I don't know the details for why though myself.

Big surprise, NGC have just notified me of a huge U turn, so it looks like they are happy to accept Casascius coins, at least, for grading after all now, and would also take notes like Polymerbit on a test trial type basis with no fee if they decided that they couldn't grade submitted ones.


If it helps the credibility for NGC to help onboard grading by PMG, PCGS has already graded at least 100+ Polymerbit notes
donator
Activity: 3108
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Sorry, I don't follow what you asked re Heritage repping coins graded by PCGS and others Etc. Heritage offer coins which have been graded by all the main firms of course np, and not just NGC, they happened to choose to use them for my coins on that occasion, maybe because they offered them a better deal than PCGS or something, I don't know the details for why though myself.

Big surprise, NGC have just notified me of a huge U turn, so it looks like they are happy to accept Casascius coins, at least, for grading after all now, and would also take notes like Polymerbit on a test trial type basis with no fee if they decided that they couldn't grade submitted ones.

Hello Otoh, (real name swapped)
 
I wanted to follow up with you about the submission of physical cryptocurrency notes. We have not graded these cryptocurrency paper notes yet, and the notes would need to be submitted and reviewed in hand by the grading team to confirm if they are eligible for grading. Should they be determined ineligible for grading as an Ineligible Type, the grading fee would not apply.
 
I also have good news about the physical coin cryptocurrency. While we did not originally accept the coins for collector submissions, I did receive news from the grading team that this has recently changed and we can grade these coins.
 
If you are interested in submitting coins for grading, you can become a paid member of our Collector's Society through Join NGC Today | NGC (ngccoin.com). You can find more information on how to start  submitting coins online at How to Submit.
 
You’ll need to have a general idea of the value of each coin to help select which grading tier. Grading tiers and fees can be found at  Services and Fees | Coin Submissions | NGC (ngccoin.com). These coins can be submitted as US Coins with a tier chosen based on their fair market value.
 
The value we ask you for is an insurance value, a number you would feel comfortable with in terms of a replacement value if your coin was lost or damaged while with us. We encourage you to be conservative as we do not reimburse you if you overvalue your coin. If your coin was grossly undervalued, we reserve the right to bump it to the appropriate tier.  
 
If you do not wish to sign up for membership, you can find a listing of authorized NGC dealers that can submit the coins on your behalf here: NGC Coin Dealer Locator
 
If you have any other questions, please let us know. Thank you!
 
Nicki O.
Customer Service
Certified Collectibles Group
p. (855) Grade10 | (855) 472-3310
collectiblesgroup.com
copper member
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I also agree that these slabs by NCG will be very well known and sought after if this is in fact their last time doing so for physical bitcoin collectibles,  this makes me think about what we talked about having PCGS slab a coin that is already in a slab, these would look great inside an oversize PCGS slab in my opinion. please keep us posted on any new things that come up with this if you can Otoh.  also i dont know a ton about Heritage, im guessing they will rep. coins in their auction if they are graded by another grader like PCGS ?  is this correct. ?  thank you all =). RS
donator
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Yeah, I agree 100% and was totally taken by shocked surprise that instead of embracing this new field that they choose not to after such a fine initial well received start, I even offered to submit any further coins again through Heritage rather than directly if that worked better for them, but apparently not, perhaps Heritage will have greater sway with them about grading more, especially as an exclusive (if that's what they want) NGC graded Otoh Collection Part 2 which would be a whole other level in terms of value, rarity and desirability, and as you say during a time of ATH BTC prices and general interest, seems crazy to me their own apparent lack of interest, anyway time will tell, their competitors will be more than happy to take up the opportunities instead of them that's for sure

Also, as you say, it's pretty super cool if that one off grading series of 250 NGC coins became the only cryptos that they do grade for the foreseeable future, or if ever, I doubt that it was planned that way, but it certainly makes those slabs a bit special if so, and no harm that all the buyers are now quids in over the last four months since they won, as are the buyers of the few flipped coins at about three months as well, so very good all round I'd say
hero member
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Just to say that I reached out to NGC asking if they'd be prepared to grade some further coins that I have, they took three weeks and a couple of reminders to respond:

Thank you for contacting us. I am sorry we will not be able to grade additional physical coin cryptocurrency. I have confirmed with the NGC team that the coins shown in our article were graded as a one-time special grading for Heritage. There are no current plans to open up grading services to these coins. Again, I am sorry we cannot help with these coins.  
 
I have reached out to PMG to confirm if physical cryptocurrency banknotes would be eligible for submission. I will provide you with an update as soon as possible.


So basically they're not interested, I asked about some Polymerbit notes as well and will update when I've heard back from them on those.

Wowwwwww, that is such a huge dissapointment that NGC will not continue to grade even Cass coins. It really is a shame, its like taking two steps forward and one HUGE step back. PCGS will remain the clear choice for serious collectors. I just can't believe this dimwitted move on their part, especially in a time when Bitcoin literallly just hit a new all time high & ETFs have rolled out from all the largest financial titans with insane volume. I really like NGC too, but I think they will look back on this and realize how much of a mistake they are making there.

On the flip side of this coin, Otoh, that just makes these coins that much more valuable and this is extrememly good for your  pedigreed collection in my opinion! This makes and seals your coins the crown jewel crypto collectibles for NGC. Man I sure wish I could afford one haha.
donator
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Just to say that I reached out to NGC asking if they'd be prepared to grade some further coins that I have, they took three weeks and a couple of reminders to respond:

Thank you for contacting us. I am sorry we will not be able to grade additional physical coin cryptocurrency. I have confirmed with the NGC team that the coins shown in our article were graded as a one-time special grading for Heritage. There are no current plans to open up grading services to these coins. Again, I am sorry we cannot help with these coins. 
 
I have reached out to PMG to confirm if physical cryptocurrency banknotes would be eligible for submission. I will provide you with an update as soon as possible.


So basically they're not interested, I asked about some Polymerbit notes as well and will update when I've heard back from them on those.
donator
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donator
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I shall certainly ask Heritage about this, the problem I imagine though is that ANACS didn't take photos of the coins before it slabbed them.

Heritage celebrating the $78,000 record at the top of their latest newsletter:

https://coins.ha.com/heritage-auctions-newsletter/world-coin-news-another-heritage-world-record-the-highest-selling-2013-casascius-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-.s?id=6465

They also sold earlier this week, by private treaty, for $73,629 each on the singles and $38,314.50 on the half, when the spot price was at $62,629/BTC, before the new bitcoin ATH
2 x 1 BTC MS67 & a 0.5 BTC MS66, which had been bought in by them from the Otoh sale, ie hadn't reached the reserve which Heritage put on them back then
hero member
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I too love the historic ANACS slabbed coins. This may sound crazy, and I am kinda half kidding. . . but not really, could you treat the whole slabbed coin as a collectible and would PCGS slab the slab? They have been slabbing Kialaras, cas bars etc, I would think a yellow slab would fit into one of those larger slabs and would be super cool way to preserve the yellow, error, and early labels etc., but still update to PCGS. I can’t imagine they would ever even consider doing this, but it would be super cool in my opinion.

Otho collection is out of my range, but just a thought.

Geophphreigh

damn I love this idea so much, and wow would a ANACS yellow slab look so amazing inside an oversized PCGS slab. please make it happen M.J.  Wink. lol

Ha, I'm not sure I have that kind of crypto-witchcraft up my sleeve... but I am happy to try

We would have "slab inception" then... lol Tongue

I know grading companies will do things like cross-grading, but this is another level!! Cheesy

Honestly this is a really good idea. Considering they are a retired category and historical ANACS collectible I feel like NGC would hear that argument out, grading a slab and putting it in another Slab it's actually not unheard of so to speak, this concept was employed with a 2019 'slab shaped' medal in October 2023 to commemorate 5 years of NGC's Shanghai office. Check it: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4895888-161/70/
legendary
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I too love the historic ANACS slabbed coins. This may sound crazy, and I am kinda half kidding. . . but not really, could you treat the whole slabbed coin as a collectible and would PCGS slab the slab? They have been slabbing Kialaras, cas bars etc, I would think a yellow slab would fit into one of those larger slabs and would be super cool way to preserve the yellow, error, and early labels etc., but still update to PCGS. I can’t imagine they would ever even consider doing this, but it would be super cool in my opinion.

Otho collection is out of my range, but just a thought.

Geophphreigh

damn I love this idea so much, and wow would a ANACS yellow slab look so amazing inside an oversized PCGS slab. please make it happen M.J.  Wink. lol

Ha, I'm not sure I have that kind of crypto-witchcraft up my sleeve... but I am happy to try

We would have "slab inception" then... lol Tongue

I know grading companies will do things like cross-grading, but this is another level!! Cheesy
copper member
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I too love the historic ANACS slabbed coins. This may sound crazy, and I am kinda half kidding. . . but not really, could you treat the whole slabbed coin as a collectible and would PCGS slab the slab? They have been slabbing Kialaras, cas bars etc, I would think a yellow slab would fit into one of those larger slabs and would be super cool way to preserve the yellow, error, and early labels etc., but still update to PCGS. I can’t imagine they would ever even consider doing this, but it would be super cool in my opinion.

Otho collection is out of my range, but just a thought.

Geophphreigh

damn I love this idea so much, and wow would a ANACS yellow slab look so amazing inside an oversized PCGS slab. please make it happen M.J.  Wink. lol
legendary
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I too love the historic ANACS slabbed coins. This may sound crazy, and I am kinda half kidding. . . but not really, could you treat the whole slabbed coin as a collectible and would PCGS slab the slab? They have been slabbing Kialaras, cas bars etc, I would think a yellow slab would fit into one of those larger slabs and would be super cool way to preserve the yellow, error, and early labels etc., but still update to PCGS. I can’t imagine they would ever even consider doing this, but it would be super cool in my opinion.

Otho collection is out of my range, but just a thought.

Geophphreigh
donator
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Antique single Casascius coin 2013 1.0 Btc MS68 coins is getting auctioned off in the next couple days, link below.

Link:  https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s


Enjoy Smiley

Another ATH record for an Otoh Collection 1 BTC resale: $78,000 including buyer's premium  Cool

https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

Ooops, sorry, just noticed already was posted above  Embarrassed

That's amazing! Congratulations Otoh, this sale was an absolute hit! This was a win win win for everyone involved. Didn't you say you meant to do another one with Heritage soon?

Yes indeed, I am in talks with them now about that, if it goes ahead then there'll be much more variety and rares on offer this next time, I don't want to list more than the present physical crypto collectors market can comfortably absorb, but on the other hand I do want to make a bigger splash with an amazing catalogue, and maybe facilitate some whale/s to make a potential one off world class collection/s in an easy swoop if they liked, and to also allow others to pick up some of the rarer gems that are getting very hard to source nowadays, so I have inventoried for a Part 2 and am awaiting their feedback on that.

A lot of the coins I had slabbed by ANACS between 2014 and 2016, most in early 2014, when they were the only game in town for that, so they have great provenance, kind of like the old green label slabs for regular coins from PCGS, and also it wouldn't have been cost effective for anyone to make forgeries back then so that helps, the only issue though is ANACS were very slack and didn't give many of the coin's addresses on their verification links page, or photos of them, they did offer to put this right afterwards but I didn't want to keep shipping them back and forth as they were rising in value a lot, so I'll need to decide if keeping the old slabs, asking Heritage to send photos to ANACS and the addresses for them to add, or to re-slab them with NGC in 'Otoh Collection' slabs instead, I did feel that ANACS graded them rather conservatively back then as well, so it could be that they'd do better now if resubmitted to NGC, but perhaps Heritage will think that maybe the market could prefer them in the old slabs, no idea or preference myself, and I will be guided by them on it all.







Very exciting news! Thanks for that update. Hmmmm that is surely quite a predicament you've got yourself in. I would have to agree on your comparison to the green labled slabs w/ PCGS for those crypto ANACS slabs. That is definitely a tough nut to crack. Honestly you might be right though in what you said about them being graded very conservatively and  might be better off getting them re-slabbed/re-graded through NGC, as you said. I think just for your namesake alone having them slabbed and labled with your collection pedigree would be more appealing to the collection but on the other hand the ANACS slabs offer a vintage feel and are semi historic being that you can't replace them becuase ANACS doesn't grade crypto anymore (Pity). Good luck with the gathering and careful consideration here! I'm sure this next sale of yours is going to be quite the sight!

In my opinion, I feel that any early graded physical crypto that is in an ANACS slab should stay that way...
The historical worth far out-weighs any bump up in grade value that you would get auctioning said coin.

Many thanks for the input MJ, much appreciated, yep these are early historical slabs, and even though ANACS was a bit of a chaos at that time with the new crypto field that they were the first to try and handle, so they made tons of rookie errors, like not putting Cas addies on the slabs, or uploading photos onto their verification links, which perhaps can be corrected via Heritage now, and even with minor typos on a couple of the addies, it probably would be best as you recommend and to leave them all as is, and I expect that is what Heritage will also advise.

A bit like error coins, they where genuine mistakes at the time and old slabs can never be repeated, even if they appear to be a bit naive in how they were trying to genuinely get a grip on all that new fangled crypto stuff back then, nearly a decade ago.

I'm all for preserving the history if possible, rather than attempting to maybe maximising potential returns, the good karma of doing the right thing will more than make up for it all.
 
legendary
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Antique single Casascius coin 2013 1.0 Btc MS68 coins is getting auctioned off in the next couple days, link below.

Link:  https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s


Enjoy Smiley

Another ATH record for an Otoh Collection 1 BTC resale: $78,000 including buyer's premium  Cool

https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

Ooops, sorry, just noticed already was posted above  Embarrassed

That's amazing! Congratulations Otoh, this sale was an absolute hit! This was a win win win for everyone involved. Didn't you say you meant to do another one with Heritage soon?

Yes indeed, I am in talks with them now about that, if it goes ahead then there'll be much more variety and rares on offer this next time, I don't want to list more than the present physical crypto collectors market can comfortably absorb, but on the other hand I do want to make a bigger splash with an amazing catalogue, and maybe facilitate some whale/s to make a potential one off world class collection/s in an easy swoop if they liked, and to also allow others to pick up some of the rarer gems that are getting very hard to source nowadays, so I have inventoried for a Part 2 and am awaiting their feedback on that.

A lot of the coins I had slabbed by ANACS between 2014 and 2016, most in early 2014, when they were the only game in town for that, so they have great provenance, kind of like the old green label slabs for regular coins from PCGS, and also it wouldn't have been cost effective for anyone to make forgeries back then so that helps, the only issue though is ANACS were very slack and didn't give many of the coin's addresses on their verification links page, or photos of them, they did offer to put this right afterwards but I didn't want to keep shipping them back and forth as they were rising in value a lot, so I'll need to decide if keeping the old slabs, asking Heritage to send photos to ANACS and the addresses for them to add, or to re-slab them with NGC in 'Otoh Collection' slabs instead, I did feel that ANACS graded them rather conservatively back then as well, so it could be that they'd do better now if resubmitted to NGC, but perhaps Heritage will think that maybe the market could prefer them in the old slabs, no idea or preference myself, and I will be guided by them on it all.







Very exciting news! Thanks for that update. Hmmmm that is surely quite a predicament you've got yourself in. I would have to agree on your comparison to the green labled slabs w/ PCGS for those crypto ANACS slabs. That is definitely a tough nut to crack. Honestly you might be right though in what you said about them being graded very conservatively and  might be better off getting them re-slabbed/re-graded through NGC, as you said. I think just for your namesake alone having them slabbed and labled with your collection pedigree would be more appealing to the collection but on the other hand the ANACS slabs offer a vintage feel and are semi historic being that you can't replace them becuase ANACS doesn't grade crypto anymore (Pity). Good luck with the gathering and careful consideration here! I'm sure this next sale of yours is going to be quite the sight!

In my opinion, I feel that any early graded physical crypto that is in an ANACS slab should stay that way...
The historical worth far out-weighs any bump up in grade value that you would get auctioning said coin.
hero member
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Antique single Casascius coin 2013 1.0 Btc MS68 coins is getting auctioned off in the next couple days, link below.

Link:  https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s


Enjoy Smiley

Another ATH record for an Otoh Collection 1 BTC resale: $78,000 including buyer's premium  Cool

https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

Ooops, sorry, just noticed already was posted above  Embarrassed

That's amazing! Congratulations Otoh, this sale was an absolute hit! This was a win win win for everyone involved. Didn't you say you meant to do another one with Heritage soon?

Yes indeed, I am in talks with them now about that, if it goes ahead then there'll be much more variety and rares on offer this next time, I don't want to list more than the present physical crypto collectors market can comfortably absorb, but on the other hand I do want to make a bigger splash with an amazing catalogue, and maybe facilitate some whale/s to make a potential one off world class collection/s in an easy swoop if they liked, and to also allow others to pick up some of the rarer gems that are getting very hard to source nowadays, so I have inventoried for a Part 2 and am awaiting their feedback on that.

A lot of the coins I had slabbed by ANACS between 2014 and 2016, most in early 2014, when they were the only game in town for that, so they have great provenance, kind of like the old green label slabs for regular coins from PCGS, and also it wouldn't have been cost effective for anyone to make forgeries back then so that helps, the only issue though is ANACS were very slack and didn't give many of the coin's addresses on their verification links page, or photos of them, they did offer to put this right afterwards but I didn't want to keep shipping them back and forth as they were rising in value a lot, so I'll need to decide if keeping the old slabs, asking Heritage to send photos to ANACS and the addresses for them to add, or to re-slab them with NGC in 'Otoh Collection' slabs instead, I did feel that ANACS graded them rather conservatively back then as well, so it could be that they'd do better now if resubmitted to NGC, but perhaps Heritage will think that maybe the market could prefer them in the old slabs, no idea or preference myself, and I will be guided by them on it all.







Very exciting news! Thanks for that update. Hmmmm that is surely quite a predicament you've got yourself in. I would have to agree on your comparison to the green labled slabs w/ PCGS for those crypto ANACS slabs. That is definitely a tough nut to crack. Honestly you might be right though in what you said about them being graded very conservatively and  might be better off getting them re-slabbed/re-graded through NGC, as you said. I think just for your namesake alone having them slabbed and labled with your collection pedigree would be more appealing to the collection but on the other hand the ANACS slabs offer a vintage feel and are semi historic being that you can't replace them becuase ANACS doesn't grade crypto anymore (Pity). Good luck with the gathering and careful consideration here! I'm sure this next sale of yours is going to be quite the sight!
sr. member
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I cant wait. Im gonna dress up like a Japanese schoolgirl with pompoms, just for the occasion!

Dont judge me!

Tank
donator
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ie, this is five of six of them, where they did actually list addresses and post photos in their verification links:

4589722   2011       TOKEN   1 BITCOIN "CASACIUS" IN   HOLOGRAM BRASS 19r1SK9y   MS 67       
4589723   2011       TOKEN   1 BITCOIN "CASACIUS" IN   HOLOGRAM BRASS 19GYM8Xj   MS 67       
4589724   2013       TOKEN   CASASCIUS 0.1 BITCOIN   SILVER 1AgyC8At   MS 67       
4589725   2013       TOKEN   CASASCIUS 0.1 BITCOIN   SILVER 1AgyyPm3   MS 67       
4589726   2013       TOKEN   CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN   SILVER 1Agw6y5i   MS 67   
    
4589727   2012       TOKEN   5 BITCOINS "CASACIUS" IN   HOLOGRAM BRASS 1BtwEsTB   MS 66   

but most are like the last one with no photos, therefor not even showing their addresses, the same as that one, so this needs dealing with before they're submitted to an auction
donator
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Antique single Casascius coin 2013 1.0 Btc MS68 coins is getting auctioned off in the next couple days, link below.

Link:  https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s


Enjoy Smiley

Another ATH record for an Otoh Collection 1 BTC resale: $78,000 including buyer's premium  Cool

https://coins.ha.com/itm/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-casascius-brass-loaded-unredeemed-1-bitcoin-btc-2013-ms68-ngc-/a/232409-65215.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction

Ooops, sorry, just noticed already was posted above  Embarrassed

That's amazing! Congratulations Otoh, this sale was an absolute hit! This was a win win win for everyone involved. Didn't you say you meant to do another one with Heritage soon?

Yes indeed, I am in talks with them now about that, if it goes ahead then there'll be much more variety and rares on offer this next time, I don't want to list more than the present physical crypto collectors market can comfortably absorb, but on the other hand I do want to make a bigger splash with an amazing catalogue, and maybe facilitate some whale/s to make a potential one off world class collection/s in an easy swoop if they liked, and to also allow others to pick up some of the rarer gems that are getting very hard to source nowadays, so I have inventoried for a Part 2 and am awaiting their feedback on that.

A lot of the coins I had slabbed by ANACS between 2014 and 2016, most in early 2014, when they were the only game in town for that, so they have great provenance, kind of like the old green label slabs for regular coins from PCGS, and also it wouldn't have been cost effective for anyone to make forgeries back then so that helps, the only issue though is ANACS were very slack and didn't give many of the coin's addresses on their verification links page, or photos of them, they did offer to put this right afterwards but I didn't want to keep shipping them back and forth as they were rising in value a lot, so I'll need to decide if keeping the old slabs, asking Heritage to send photos to ANACS and the addresses for them to add, or to re-slab them with NGC in 'Otoh Collection' slabs instead, I did feel that ANACS graded them rather conservatively back then as well, so it could be that they'd do better now if resubmitted to NGC, but perhaps Heritage will think that maybe the market could prefer them in the old slabs, no idea or preference myself, and I will be guided by them on it all.





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