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Topic: NiceHash hacked? - page 16. (Read 32068 times)

newbie
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December 06, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
I don't know much about the inner workings of bitcoin, but they know what wallet the stolen coins went into and where they went from there. Is it impossible to black-list the tainted coins/wallets? If every single transaction is in a ledger, then wouldn't every single coin be traceable?
full member
Activity: 233
Merit: 100
December 06, 2017, 08:01:34 PM
Damn, right when when I completed my first rig! How unlucky is that! A similar service needs to surface asap.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
December 06, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
Crazy time for sure. I cant decide if its the perfect moment to pull a take the money and claim they are trying to fix it while setting themselves up for good and running off while their excuses buy them time or if someone actually pulled off quite the theft. Either way it sucks for all those using Nicehash.  Many miners have with little knowledge were using it for the simple ease of use and have never really looked into other pools before.  It will be interesting to see what happens to those and where they go after losing most of their earning potential.  Those who were grinding away with 1 or 2 GPUs or even CPU miners probably wont come back.  Although they are small timers they add up to a decent hash rate between them all.

I was mining on NiceHash with 2 GPU + CPU. I am shocked what happened, it looks like everyone lost their balance for good. That was internal wallets so money is lost for good. Below is a hacker wallet that collected all BTC from NiceHash. I think they will be out of business if not they should, and they should take responsibility. Users always complain about Bitcoin was banned somewhere in the world or there is an extra verification process on the exchange but after this what happened to NiceHash we can understand how important is to put right laws in place to prevent things like this to happen in future.
https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1EnJHhq8Jq8vDuZA5ahVh6H4t6jh1mB4rq
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 135
December 06, 2017, 07:38:50 PM
Crazy time for sure. I cant decide if its the perfect moment to pull a take the money and claim they are trying to fix it while setting themselves up for good and running off while their excuses buy them time or if someone actually pulled off quite the theft. Either way it sucks for all those using Nicehash.  Many miners have with little knowledge were using it for the simple ease of use and have never really looked into other pools before.  It will be interesting to see what happens to those and where they go after losing most of their earning potential.  Those who were grinding away with 1 or 2 GPUs or even CPU miners probably wont come back.  Although they are small timers they add up to a decent hash rate between them all.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
December 06, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
Makes me wonder about the future of nicehash. I have a feeling they are going to just shut down soon... I don't see anyone wanting to use their services to buy mining power, which means they won't be able "sell mining power"...

I was making about 2 dollars per day with my 970 and cpu. I would suspect it being more like 50 cents a day now.

I hade .32 BTC at nicehash! That's $4200

You can make more money without Nicehash.  

Mine electroneum ( ETN ) it's off the charts now that Nicehash is down. My 4 1080 ti's make $29.00 a day.

Go here and put your hashrate with Cryptonight  at the bottom and see what you're daily earning are:
https://easyhash.io/pools/electroneum


Luck affects payout as well.  Some people use those calculators as gospel in mining.  Its just a calculation of that particular moments difficulty, nethash, and your hashrate.  You still have to hit blocks to get paid and most forget that.
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 06, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Makes me wonder about the future of nicehash. I have a feeling they are going to just shut down soon... I don't see anyone wanting to use their services to buy mining power, which means they won't be able "sell mining power"...

I was making about 2 dollars per day with my 970 and cpu. I would suspect it being more like 50 cents a day now.

I hade .32 BTC at nicehash! That's $4200

You can make more money without Nicehash.  

Mine electroneum ( ETN ) it's off the charts now that Nicehash is down. My 4 1080 ti's make $29.00 a day.

Go here and put your hashrate with Cryptonight  at the bottom and see what you're daily earning are:
https://easyhash.io/pools/electroneum
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
December 06, 2017, 07:30:14 PM
People who believes that the site was hacked then you're out of your mind, this strategy was planned already of nicehash team, as the bitcoin price soar ($14k at coinmarketcap) and of course its a big win win to them everyone will believe if they will tell the world that they were hacked using those huge media/news site, and now its time, they published that were hacked? Com'on, this is not common thing, hashocean moved that way too when price is in the middle of surging high.

Something is fishy for sure...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25881770

1. BTC price its at a alltime high. Good time for an exit.
2. To put all btc in one wallet is just stupid. Even with the slightest security thinking you can realize that.
3. The internal adresses was probably linked to this wallet. And is a strange system in itself.

Myself I was about to get payed a bit over 0.01 btc the 8th of December. It feels fishy this happens just before.

Thats how the large pools work.  They receive the coin, you get an entry in a database that youll receive x number of coins and when cashout happens, they send it from the main wallet.  Thats why lots of people will tell you to not leave anything on a pool, if they get hacked or the database is corrupted, you're screwed.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
December 06, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
1. BTC price its at a alltime high. Good time for an exit.
2. To put all btc in one wallet is just stupid. Even with the slightest security thinking you can realize that.
3. The internal adresses was probably linked to this wallet. And is a strange system in itself.
Myself I was about to get payed a bit over 0.01 btc the 8th of December. It feels fishy this happens just before.

Same here ... maybe we can all go to Slovenia and take our own share in equipment  Grin Grin Grin
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
December 06, 2017, 07:16:46 PM
People who believes that the site was hacked then you're out of your mind, this strategy was planned already of nicehash team, as the bitcoin price soar ($14k at coinmarketcap) and of course its a big win win to them everyone will believe if they will tell the world that they were hacked using those huge media/news site, and now its time, they published that were hacked? Com'on, this is not common thing, hashocean moved that way too when price is in the middle of surging high.

Something is fishy for sure...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25881770

1. BTC price its at a alltime high. Good time for an exit.
2. To put all btc in one wallet is just stupid. Even with the slightest security thinking you can realize that.
3. The internal adresses was probably linked to this wallet. And is a strange system in itself.

Myself I was about to get payed a bit over 0.01 btc the 8th of December. It feels fishy this happens just before.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 17
December 06, 2017, 07:15:54 PM
I feel sorry for those who got their btc stolen. Damn hackers!
Common misconception, they didn't steal my btc, they stole nicehash's btc. Nicehash is responsible for our money, of course they can just go broke and it's over.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
December 06, 2017, 07:12:36 PM

So this was most likely planned out to coincide with the payout?

Without doubt. I'm surprised they didn't squeeze another 20 hours of mining profits Wink I guess once you are over $50m it's all the same...

That's a common misconception, but a few million here, a few million there, pretty soon you're talking about real money.  Tongue  This is why use the jaws of life to get the last bit of toothpaste out of the tube.

There was an attack on bcc that hurt the scrypt profit-switching pools just a day before this.  I'm really not sure this heist was all about the money, or at least, not just this particular pile of money.  The perps may be playing a much bigger game.

Such as?

The people who suffered in both cases were mining altcoins, and were out on the fringes of profit switching among the lesser known, less secure alts (bcc, for example).  Taking out some alts on the periphery might increasingly scare speculative dollars to more established currencies, not just bitcoin, but the most familiar, strongest cryptos.  Two attacks wouldn't accomplish that, so I'm just spit-balling unless there are more attacks, but if they profit from each attack with the foreknowledge of what will go down as well as the wallet proceeds, they can drive bigger and bigger attacks as they go and knock down targets like dominos.

If you were going to attack the entire system rather than just promote your corner of it, eventually all the way to attacking bitcoin itself, that wouldn't be a bad way to start.  Alts are almost an overflow for BTC.  Take that away and profit in the process, and you've got a softer final target and more resources to hit it with.

This is a worry inducing comment to say the least.

Ehh its always doom and gloom around here if you listen to that kind of shit.
Its quite common for people to think the sky is falling.
Granted, sometimes it is.

Now is it time to don our tinfoil hats? Sure why not?
I have a very stylish one!

Edit:
Does anyone else here not see the lack of logic in them up and running?
The business model was killer. It was really sound. Especially because if you had spent any time mining you would see that the rates they give is almost 3/4 what it would be worth if you were actually mining something.
The positive side is that smaller coins can actually be secured and not pwned by massive hash rates as soon as they launch by any ol guy who could click a few buttons and deposit some BTC.

In my mind this is not a conspiracy, though I may be wrong, but instead someone skimped on updating the website UI and there was a hole. Thats what happens with these things.
Honestly, is the person doing it for the money? Well Im sure it doesnt hurt. But more probably they are doing it to "re-secure" alts that launch and then literally are broken by people mining to hell and dumping.
sr. member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 311
December 06, 2017, 07:09:50 PM
I still have a balance but I couldn't mine, so not sure how I can get my BTC without being able to mine up to the cashout threshold

Balances are basically all gone from the sound of it, unless NH has a HUGE cash reserve somehow.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
December 06, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
People who believes that the site was hacked then you're out of your mind, this strategy was planned already of nicehash team, as the bitcoin price soar ($14k at coinmarketcap) and of course its a big win win to them everyone will believe if they will tell the world that they were hacked using those huge media/news site, and now its time, they published that were hacked? Com'on, this is not common thing, hashocean moved that way too when price is in the middle of surging high.

Something is fishy for sure...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25881770
copper member
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1305
Limited in number. Limitless in potential.
December 06, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
People who believes that the site was hacked then you're out of your mind, this strategy was planned already of nicehash team, as the bitcoin price soar ($14k at coinmarketcap) and of course its a big win win to them everyone will believe if they will tell the world that they were hacked using those huge media/news site, and now its time, they published that were hacked? Com'on, this is not common thing, hashocean moved that way too when price is in the middle of surging. BTW get ready with hashflare too lol
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
December 06, 2017, 06:46:24 PM
I still have a balance but I couldn't mine, so not sure how I can get my BTC without being able to mine up to the cashout threshold
How can you tell you have a balance? Isn't the site shutdown?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
December 06, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
I still have a balance but I couldn't mine, so not sure how I can get my BTC without being able to mine up to the cashout threshold
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
December 06, 2017, 06:39:15 PM
I wonder if they really got "hacked"
It all seems a bit too "convenient" doesn't it. The timing....the sheer volume....the complete blackout of the site. One wallet with not only $59.000.000.00 in it, but lax enough security to be able to clean it out?? Something definitely stinks very badly.
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
December 06, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
I wonder if they really got "hacked"
full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 104
December 06, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
Once this stuff starts moving you need to be extra careful on sales here or localbitcoins.
Some "very good" rates people got offered here on bitcointalk were in fact dirty btc.


How does that matter?I don't think there's such a thing as dirty BTC. It's just BTC.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
December 06, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
I would not loose one wink of sleep after putting a bullet right through the head of any of these thieves. More likely though, I would shoot them in the stomach and enjoy their slow painful death. It would not shock me in the least if this wasn't an organized Corporate, or Government attack on NH and consequently Bitcoin. Those central bank and corporate scumbags and thieves are getting very, very scared of the BTC price movement lately. They stand to lose a LOT.
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