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Topic: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 400+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return - page 36. (Read 57069 times)

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When will initialize this round???

This question doesn't seem applicable to this game.  Rounds start when a deposit is confirmed and lasts 99hours, so a round is initialized when a bitcoin block is created.

Thanks buddy Smiley

I have another question

What is "expired" transaction??


and As time goes by payout is more difficult? hmm...


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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.

I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
Can you present a example for this. I didn't get it.
The owner of a deposit configure a Bounty for one (or some, or all) of his entries?
10 hours before this deposit expires, the bounty is visible for all players?
But what happens than?

E.g. you have one deposit of 1BTC (output BTC1.25)and set a bounty of 20%.
I place a deposit of 0.5. What happens next?
As you can tell, I'm a great programmer so I express myself from that encampment(package).  I really don't understand why anyone would have a difficult time taking the above and turning it into a simple program.

Programmatically, when a Bounty is HTTP posted the value is stored to a secret hash keyed by bitcoin address(after validation of a salted bitcoin signature).  Each deposit object is extended with a "bounty not applied" bool that is consulted when the timer on the deposit is below 10hrs.  If the bounty has not been applied the value is read from the hash and applied to the object, clearing the bool.

When users place a deposit nothing changes, perhaps there is some more accounting data but that depends on the implementation and would not involve or effect users.

Payouts are effected by Bounties, for an non-zero bounty applied to a deposit creates a distributed payout.  The payout to each address is calculated taking the Bounty into account per the above.
Thanks Cheako, i am also a programmer since 30 years, but i still didn't get it. Maybe only a problem with my english, maybe not.
It could be helpful to show some examples.
Take SHA-1 for example, isn't it better to say that it creates a hash that can be used for various things... Instead of showing the math, it's a lot of work to put together with no guarantee that it would be clearer than any explanation.  As such I think you should just ignore the following example, especially if you don't wan to be be even more confused.

Take a payout of 0.03722551 to 128VrBfxqLYJq3vMMLTXFMM62nAXNLDxaQ: eeabcb5af54f87b4d536fb9321ea9dbfa5e1b3aae55e6332f3c16c0bb55286b9

Looks like most all of this was because of 0.14546920 from 12d8KffeBY5JUgxNig4m3RGpGXVLk2b7rN, so the entire Bounty goes there.

A payout needs a deposit of X * 1.04 + 0.002, in this case X = 0.03722551 so it took .0407145304 BTC.  Ideally a %30 bounty would be 1/3rd of .0407145304 and a %20 Bounty would be 1/5th.  This is simple arithmetic and I feel that even though it's an example it's massively confusing to me as I don't see what this has to do with anything.

Did you discuss your ideas with the owners? Other then you old idea, this cannot work without them.

It would be wonderful if this were added as part of the game.
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When will initialize this round???

This question doesn't seem applicable to this game.  Rounds start when a deposit is confirmed and lasts 99hours, so a round is initialized when a bitcoin block is created.
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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.

I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
Can you present a example for this. I didn't get it.
The owner of a deposit configure a Bounty for one (or some, or all) of his entries?
10 hours before this deposit expires, the bounty is visible for all players?
But what happens than?

E.g. you have one deposit of 1BTC (output BTC1.25)and set a bounty of 20%.
I place a deposit of 0.5. What happens next?
As you can tell, I'm a great programmer so I express myself from that encampment(package).  I really don't understand why anyone would have a difficult time taking the above and turning it into a simple program.

Programmatically, when a Bounty is HTTP posted the value is stored to a secret hash keyed by bitcoin address(after validation of a salted bitcoin signature).  Each deposit object is extended with a "bounty not applied" bool that is consulted when the timer on the deposit is below 10hrs.  If the bounty has not been applied the value is read from the hash and applied to the object, clearing the bool.

When users place a deposit nothing changes, perhaps there is some more accounting data but that depends on the implementation and would not involve or effect users.

Payouts are effected by Bounties, for an non-zero bounty applied to a deposit creates a distributed payout.  The payout to each address is calculated taking the Bounty into account per the above.
Thanks Cheako, i am also a programmer since 30 years, but i still didn't get it. Maybe only a problem with my english, maybe not.
It could be helpful to show some examples. The technical part is clear (but not really relevant for us users).

I will try it:

1. The owner of the deposit sets a bounty in percent to his deposit (must be done at least 10 hours before expire and will be fixed then)
    -> e.g. deposit of 1 BTC, bounty 30%
    -> Question: When will the players see this bounty? Directly? 10 hours before expire? After paiment?

2. If this deposit is paid, the owner will get the rest (without the deposit)
    -> 1BTC x 125% = 1.25BTC. Minus 30% = 0.875BTC

3. The bounty will be distributed to (all?) ppl, who are "involved". Means their deposits paid the original deposit?
    -> Bounty is 30% of 1.25BTC = 0.375BTC. This will be distributed to one or some ppl who deposited at the "correct" time. Correct?

Btw: Did you discuss your ideas with the owners? Other then you old idea, this cannot work without them.
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When will initialize this round???

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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.

I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
Can you present a example for this. I didn't get it.
The owner of a deposit configure a Bounty for one (or some, or all) of his entries?
10 hours before this deposit expires, the bounty is visible for all players?
But what happens than?

E.g. you have one deposit of 1BTC (output BTC1.25)and set a bounty of 20%.
I place a deposit of 0.5. What happens next?
As you can tell, I'm a great programmer so I express myself from that encampment(package).  I really don't understand why anyone would have a difficult time taking the above and turning it into a simple program.

Programmatically, when a Bounty is HTTP posted the value is stored to a secret hash keyed by bitcoin address(after validation of a salted bitcoin signature).  Each deposit object is extended with a "bounty not applied" bool that is consulted when the timer on the deposit is below 10hrs.  If the bounty has not been applied the value is read from the hash and applied to the object, clearing the bool.

When users place a deposit nothing changes, perhaps there is some more accounting data but that depends on the implementation and would not involve or effect users.

Payouts are effected by Bounties, for an non-zero bounty applied to a deposit creates a distributed payout.  The payout to each address is calculated taking the Bounty into account per the above.
sr. member
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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.


I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
I am def not the sharpest tool in the shed, but not very dull either.. Please give an example cause I am lost
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Activity: 139
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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.

I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
Can you present a example for this. I didn't get it.
The owner of a deposit configure a Bounty for one (or some, or all) of his entries?
10 hours before this deposit expires, the bounty is visible for all players?
But what happens than?

E.g. you have one deposit of 1BTC (output BTC1.25)and set a bounty of 20%.
I place a deposit of 0.5. What happens next?
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Activity: 84
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Well, this event went off as well as the last event.. maybe worse.


I'd suggested previously about the ability to sell deposits, but after running a few rebate events I think the concept can be simplified.

Bounties, similar to rebates, with the difference being that it's a form of distributed payout.  Owners configure a per address setting in percent from 0 to 96, where 0 is the default %100 payout and %96 is %0 payout as the remaining 4 is the OP's fee leaving only the miner fee.  The bounty consists of the reaming payout.  On payout the deposits that went into making the payout possible, making the adjustments for the first and last fractional, split the Bounty using a weighted average on each deposits contribution.  This should give an close approximation, where 1/3 Rebate is represented as a %30 Bounty.

The Bounty value for the address is secret until applied to a deposit.  When the deposit becomes ??10hrs?? young the Bounty is permanent, this should accelerate the game should it cross this threshold as well as prevent abuse of the Bounty System.
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Uhh, what happens to the Nija page? All deposits gone???



As said previously this is likely a problem with your browser, are you using noscript or similar?

It could also be an interrupt in connection on your side as the queries are the last to load.
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I had asked if such issues would result in payments being differed, but I didn't specifically ask about internet routing problems...  Like if the US should become un-routable for the rest of the world, as such things have happened in the past and can take hours or even days to sort out.
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@bufa, check your browser(no Javascript?) or internet connection(no Google API?).
Maybe i had a local problem, but internet was working and i changed nothing on my configuration.
Now all deposits are back :-)
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@bufa, check your browser(no Javascript?) or internet connection(no Google API?).
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^^
Nine9.ninja is fine, all deposits are still there
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Uhh, what happens to the Nija page? All deposits gone???

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The difficulty or "speed" feature was designed with this in mind.

A more automated procedure fixing many issues with alternative sites.
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i think it will never be over. it can slow down to a point where all expires, but then it will be VERY interesting to play again ... i think only the speed will change

Yeah also think only speed will change from what I see as well, it's actually really well designed around this. Would be cool to see it drop back down low but I don't think it ever will haha  Cheesy
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yes yes you right but no brain comment is so annoy to me //
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Because of this there was a one pixel shift in a graph, I suspect many of you can imagine such a graph so I didn't think it worth while to post it.
7df3fac030d944c9e97076641ca53aa0ccefe24d48d181535359efbbb5e6e6be

1NiBuR1CPEJp3bPEoPvkMvqQZMsxoaWavn, 0.00967738 is 1/3rd the contribution to 1Excalibur's payout.

Thanks for your support!


...  Sorry, I know I'm not one for words.  I can usually manage to get a computer to understand me, so I'm at a nearly complete loss for what is so broken that ppl don't understand me.  I can usually tell when I won't be understood and that's a good start.
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