As DICKPIXTHROWAWAY said on the reddit topic:
"Coming from a LONG time customer (sub-$100/BTC when I made my first Nitrogen account) and big supporter, this is a pretty bad answer.
Did you alert the player that there had been a mistake and their account was effectively a negative balance before allowing the player to deposit? If not, you basically stole your own money back. Which is still stealing.
If you are going to accept deposits and bets, you need to pay them out. If you plan to make the customer pay for your error, at a BARE MINIMUM you need to alert them of their negative balance BEFORE allowing the customer to make additional deposits/bets. Otherwise, you have players making 0-equity bets on your sportsbook which is a position a customer should ever be in (particularly if they aren't even aware they are doing it)."
https://www.reddit.com/r/nitrogensports/comments/7295fp/nitrogen_sports_is_trying_to_scam_me_over_025_btc/
Topic: Nitrogen Sports is trying to scam me over 0.25 BTC - page 3. (Read 16416 times)
You are still crying no one is going to tag nitrogen sports it is not their fault in the first place this is a online world it will never be perfect no matter how much time they invest or who they hire this was again a glitch from their site you withdrew your funds immediately not something they can do about it but instead they put a outstanding balance in your account which doesn't need any explaination you again deposited funds now it was there chance and they recovered the money you got from a glitch.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.
I am not crying, I am alerting about this unfair situation.
Still waiting for a reasonable position from Nitrogen Staff.
I know you have to make long posts for those bullshit campaigns, but spamming here with the same thing will not help.
You are still crying no one is going to tag nitrogen sports it is not their fault in the first place this is a online world it will never be perfect no matter how much time they invest or who they hire this was again a glitch from their site you withdrew your funds immediately not something they can do about it but instead they put a outstanding balance in your account which doesn't need any explaination you again deposited funds now it was there chance and they recovered the money you got from a glitch.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.
Edit : If i had to make a post for campaign i would just post a 2 liner and f**k off you are in denial it's your foolishness.
As far 10 rounds is considered he lost in the 10th round so over 9.5 is a loss.
Edit : If i had to make a post for campaign i would just post a 2 liner and f**k off you are in denial it's your foolishness.
Both sides acted unethically so what's the point of making this thread? You pocketed money you shouldn't have had in the first place without consulting the site then the site seized your deposit in an attempt to recoup the loss they had incurred releasing money they shouldn't have without consulting you. In short a moot point lol.
How can you say that I acted unethically?
The official result is 10 rounds, as the fight scorecard posted above, in many other books when the fight enter the 10th round it is already over 9.5, no matter what happens. Do you really think that I pocketed the money knowing that it shouldn't be mine and so I made a new deposit using the same account?
I did not consult the site because for me there were no problems with those bets, the proof of it is that I made a new deposit with them. But the site knowing that my account was in debit did not put it in negative balance nether notified me about it. Wow, who is being unethical here?
The site did not seized my deposit, It let me play it and after, when I tried to withdraw they blocked my account, now I can't even log in to check the support tickets, they blocked my IP aswell.
Can't recommend Nitrogen, they seens legit but if you have any kind of problem they will simple kick you out and take your money.
If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.
You'd think wrong. If you own the site that the mistake happened on, and you corrected the mistake in a matter of minutes, you absolutely have the right to correct the mistake and not be stolen from.
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Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.
Show me slips where that's the case. You can't, because it's not, because 9.3 is under both 9.5 and 10.
I do not own the site for the mistake they made, how can you say that? I am the client, I do not settled bets, it's Nitrogen sole responsibility to grade bets correctly and only allow withdraws that are entitled to the owner.
Again, by their rules the correct grade is the UNDER but this does not allow them to take over my new deposit and my new winnings.
Both sides acted unethically so what's the point of making this thread? You pocketed money you shouldn't have had in the first place without consulting the site then the site seized your deposit in an attempt to recoup the loss they had incurred releasing money they shouldn't have without consulting you. In short a moot point lol.
If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.
You'd think wrong. If you own the site that the mistake happened on, and you corrected the mistake in a matter of minutes, you absolutely have the right to correct the mistake and not be stolen from.
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Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.
Show me slips where that's the case. You can't, because it's not, because 9.3 is under both 9.5 and 10.
You are such a dumb sack of crap
Thank you for bumping the thread.
You are such a dumb sack of crap
What would you say if the bet was originally graded as a loss for you, and really should have been a win? Should they not correct it after the fact?
As I said many times, I am not discussing it, I am complaining about the way they did it, just to scam me out of my new deposit.
They should correct it, of course, and advise all members that made a withdraw that their accounts are flagged and with a negative balance. You may say: "If they did this they would not recoup any money." Yes, it sounds true, thats that part when you have to pay for your mistakes and not try to scam a client to take back a resource that you "lost" for making such a big mistake.
Waiting a reply from some manager of the site, this is unacceptable.
What would you say if the bet was originally graded as a loss for you, and really should have been a win? Should they not correct it after the fact?
Hello CostaRibeiro,
As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.
However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.
The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.
We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.
For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,
-Jason
As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.
However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.
The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.
We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.
For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,
-Jason
Jason, I understand that this put you in a tough spot, but again, this don't give you the right to take over clients future winnings with no communication. Thats your fault for grading under, as I said I was not aware that you rule for boxing it's different. I did not exploited this, as I wouldn't deposit again if I were trying to "scam" you, do you agree?
If you manage a business like this sometimes you have to take a loss for doing the wrong thing, as you took with everybody that do not deposited again. The system already knew that my account was flagged, why I was not informed? Why did you let me deposit? Why did you let me play my deposit? Would be safe to you to just take the first 0,1BTC deposit, no? I could lost that first bet.
Your communication have to be better, this is unacceptable, but the problem here is not the communication, as I said many times, you don't have the right to "scam" anyone because you make a mistake, this isn't how reputable business take their operation.
I'm with DarkDays on this one. It's actually pretty clear cut. You tried (successfully) to take winnings from a misgraded wager. Nitrogen is actually one of the better bookies out there simply because they grade quickly... but of course, they do run the risk of making mistakes like in this fight.
You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.
You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.
LOL
Do you really think that I tried to take winnings from a misgraded wager and after successfully making it I just decided to came back and deposit again?
By their ruled I should not won, I am not question this, I am questioning they taking over my new deposit, that is my money by right.
Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.
Just got banned from their live chat.
Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.
Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.
Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.
Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.
No, you are in the wrong on this one.
The fight did not go over 9.5 rounds. The fight was stopped at 1:05 in the 10th round. So they found for 9 rounds (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th) and 1:05 minutes of the 10th. In order for your bet to win, they would have had to fight past the halfway point of the 10th round (that's what .5 means). So you lost by 25 seconds.
The fact that they misgraded the bet initially doesn't mean you are owed the money. They corrected their mistake very quickly and you shadily had withdrawn the ill gotten gains by then. They have every right to confiscate your future deposits until you paid them back the money you owe them.
If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person's money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.
Just for the record, Pinnacle, bet365 and all the other books have the fight graded as over 10 rounds, by their rule if the fight enter the 10 round it is already over 9,5.
Hello CostaRibeiro,
As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.
However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.
The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.
We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.
For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,
-Jason
As you're aware, there was a misgrading error for the May Mac event on the O/U line.
However, we corrected those errors by reversing the grades-- and that means awarding the correct winning bets and taking back from what actually were losing wagers, which included the "over" bet.
The first withdrawal was made immediately after the fight but before the misgrade was corrected. This put us in a tough spot where we can't get back the funds since most were gone already by the time we were correcting the wagers/grades. But because you decided to deposit with us again, the system identified the flagged account and thus made a correction from a previous misgraded wager.
We understand that our communication could have been better site-side, but we have to be able to correct misgrades via account corrections.
For any other questions, don't hesitate to PM us. Thank you,
-Jason
I'm with DarkDays on this one. It's actually pretty clear cut. You tried (successfully) to take winnings from a misgraded wager. Nitrogen is actually one of the better bookies out there simply because they grade quickly... but of course, they do run the risk of making mistakes like in this fight.
You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.
You seem to acknowledge yourself that you shouldn't have won this, and had you read their full terms and conditions, you'd find yourself the guilty party. Every bookie graded this at UNDER 9.5 in the end. A mistake was made, and they were merely correcting it.
Just got banned from their live chat.
Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.
Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.
Many asking: "Why you deposit back here if they misgraded their bet? You could just have run with their money." Well, in all major books this fight was graded over 9.5, I had no idea that nitrogen changed it, the fight had 10 rounds.
Their rules are probably different and as I said I am not questioning it.
No, you are in the wrong on this one.
The fight did not go over 9.5 rounds. The fight was stopped at 1:05 in the 10th round. So they found for 9 rounds (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th) and 1:05 minutes of the 10th. In order for your bet to win, they would have had to fight past the halfway point of the 10th round (that's what .5 means). So you lost by 25 seconds.
The fact that they misgraded the bet initially doesn't mean you are owed the money. They corrected their mistake very quickly and you shadily had withdrawn the ill gotten gains by then. They have every right to confiscate your future deposits until you paid them back the money you owe them.
Stay away from these dangerous projects, and if you have a trusted broker you can get a small amount of participation
Look, they are not in the wrong. Look at their rules, they explain this. Get over yourself
If you read what i wrote your question was already answered. Locking your account would mean it will be a loss for them.
If you manage a business and you make a mistake sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your actions, well, they graded it as over 9.5, like all other bookies did, as the fight had 10 rounds.
If their rule is different they should have noted, well they let you withdraw the money and simple does not say nothing to you? Well, if they feel that money does not belong to me they should have claimed it right there.
If I make a mistake and someone makes a profit, without abusing, or cheating or everything like it, does I have the right to cease the person money to take mine resources backs? Well, I don't think so.
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