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August 24, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
#51
With everything you said above you still dont explain why you think Gulden is the crypto for you. I havent found another coin that tried to stay away as far as possible from what you think “crypto” is
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August 24, 2018, 12:23:21 PM
#50
Crypto is decentralized ... one reason :  for anonymity you can store coin without your banker , tax, gov , etc know that. If you do not like anomymity may be you are wrong here .Go to facebook ,and use your credit card you will be happier than here.

If you want a crypto for anonimity so you dont want your assets are not known to tax & government, there are way better shady coins to put your assets in than in Gulden. Crypto was not developed with tax evasion as a the goal. If you think Bitcoin was developed for that, and think Gulden is being developed for that you are so wrong. Crypto was not created for anonimity as a goal. Anonimity is something that comes along with the development of crypto. Crypto was created as a decentralised virtual currency that provides secure global transactions very quickly and does not have any third-party manipulation.

Few years ago , gov and tax do not know the word "bitcoin" so it was a good way to do what you want with your money undercover... Now is another story.

Personally I like crypto for anonimity ... don't mean I want my asset are not known by tax & Gov, but because I can hide what I buy , from who I received , to who I send , etc. This is not the business of the banker , or anyone else. I do not want to be tracked ! It's my privacy life

So yes I have a lot of things to hide  !

When you say I don't care about the right to privacy because I have nothing to hide, that is no difference than saying 'I don't care about freedom of speech because I have nothing to say' or freedom of the press because I have nothing to write.. (edward snowden)
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August 24, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
#49
you can agree or disagree with him, you can have the opinion that he should do more about marketing, but some people go way too far in expressing their opinion. I also think it is a very unfair playing field. Rijk is known with his real name and has to deal with anonymous trolls like RichPisman who calls him hitler, führer, dictator, scam artist, fraud etc. That is pure slander! So you can respond back with “more marketing” and “premine” but that has nothing to do with this discussion
it's normal for him to use his real name ... I don't want to invest, or trust the project  if the creator was John Doe.

Satoshi?
Good point for you
But Satoshi is the first one ... he did not sale share ...  he did not have a slack ... etc

and good point for me ... We can stay anonymous as Satoshi did.
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August 24, 2018, 11:43:59 AM
#48
Crypto is decentralized ... one reason :  for anonymity you can store coin without your banker , tax, gov , etc know that. If you do not like anomymity may be you are wrong here .Go to facebook ,and use your credit card you will be happier than here.

If you want a crypto for anonimity so you dont want your assets are not known to tax & government, there are way better shady coins to put your assets in than in Gulden. Crypto was not developed with tax evasion as a the goal. If you think Bitcoin was developed for that, and think Gulden is being developed for that you are so wrong. Crypto was not created for anonimity as a goal. Anonimity is something that comes along with the development of crypto. Crypto was created as a decentralised virtual currency that provides secure global transactions very quickly and does not have any third-party manipulation.
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August 24, 2018, 11:35:46 AM
#47
you can agree or disagree with him, you can have the opinion that he should do more about marketing, but some people go way too far in expressing their opinion. I also think it is a very unfair playing field. Rijk is known with his real name and has to deal with anonymous trolls like RichPisman who calls him hitler, führer, dictator, scam artist, fraud etc. That is pure slander! So you can respond back with “more marketing” and “premine” but that has nothing to do with this discussion
it's normal for him to use his real name ... I don't want to invest, or trust the project  if the creator was John Doe.

Satoshi?
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August 24, 2018, 11:13:15 AM
#46
you can agree or disagree with him, you can have the opinion that he should do more about marketing, but some people go way too far in expressing their opinion. I also think it is a very unfair playing field. Rijk is known with his real name and has to deal with anonymous trolls like RichPisman who calls him hitler, führer, dictator, scam artist, fraud etc. That is pure slander! So you can respond back with “more marketing” and “premine” but that has nothing to do with this discussion
We was with our real name on his slack ..., instead to have a real discussion with real people (in private and explain why he did like this or like that)  He banned us ... so too bad for him ... By these acts he created himself the need of this and other anonymous forum.

Rijk has his project to sell ... it's normal for him to use his real name ... I don't want to invest, or trust the project  if the creator was John Doe. Me I have nothing to sell , so I do not  need to discuss with my real identity.
And it's strange I do not see you on the community slack ... with your real name Johnny Braveau ... but you are in this slack .... so I suppose that you use nickmane.

Crypto is decentralized ... one reason :  for anonymity you can store coin without your banker , tax, gov , etc know that. If you do not like anomymity may be you are wrong here .Go to facebook ,and use your credit card you will be happier than here.  

On HIS slack you can flood #trader with: " to the moon" , nothing , but say one time:" I am worried about my investment in gulden project I have a potential lost of -90%" . Your message will be deleted in few minutes , CENSURED ... and you will be ban few minutes later. I know what I said because this is my storie ! So how do you call that : Dictatorship or Democracy ?


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August 24, 2018, 10:43:39 AM
#45
newsflash: deciding if you act within the law is not up to you and me

another newsflash: if it comes to a case i would have a professional handle it and not defend yourself with the movie reference above because you are not making a strong case for yourself
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August 24, 2018, 06:48:44 AM
#44

I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P.  ,  Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......

Yes, if it comes to this let's raise funds...in NLG's  Cheesy that would be great for the newspapers

 Grin

Then we have to raise more then 60M Gulden otherwise we lose from Rijk.  I think his father also owns some Gulden.  He can buy a lot of Gulden with his hourly wage  Wink

Who says I'm not helping the rates go up here?  Grin
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August 24, 2018, 04:17:23 AM
#43

I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P.  ,  Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......

Yes, if it comes to this let's raise funds...in NLG's  Cheesy that would be great for the newspapers

 Grin

Then we have to raise more then 60M Gulden otherwise we lose from Rijk.  I think his father also owns some Gulden.  He can buy a lot of Gulden with his hourly wage  Wink
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August 24, 2018, 04:01:34 AM
#42

I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P.  ,  Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......

Yes, if it comes to this let's raise funds...in NLG's  Cheesy that would be great for the newspapers
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August 24, 2018, 01:37:18 AM
#41
you can agree or disagree with him, you can have the opinion that he should do more about marketing, but some people go way too far in expressing their opinion. I also think it is a very unfair playing field. Rijk is known with his real name and has to deal with anonymous trolls like RichPisman who calls him hitler, führer, dictator, scam artist, fraud etc. That is pure slander! So you can respond back with “more marketing” and “premine” but that has nothing to do with this discussion
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August 23, 2018, 07:40:53 PM
#40
So, it seems Rijk and his dad are preparing a court case and I'm asked
to distance myself from RichPissman. I could put a pointless, single line
claim here, but I don't do that, as it isn't my style. I thought I've
always been very clear towards my stance regarding Gulden en Rijk, which
partially overlaps with RichPissman's opinion. This is due to my history
with Rijk and Gulden in general.

I have no issues with Gulden and and have said it before multiple times that
Gulden in essence is a good idea and I would love to see it succeed. Yet, I
don't agree that the path chosen in the past few years is the right one.

In this part I disagree with Rijk and the dev team. We had and probably still
have different opinions about that. Also, how I saw how he managed things
it became clear to me that he and I have quite different personalities and
those would collide. Currently, I don't see myself cooperating with him or have
the need to have Rijk as a friend.

So far the things that I and RichPissman most likely have in common. My sayings
and actions come from the background described above, not because of RichPissman
or anyone else on the forum.

As for the way RichPissman expresses himself, I personally would never do it in
such strong words. Again, not my style. I always try to have discussions on the
subject that is being discussed and matters, not on a person himself. If
however a person does something that I don't agree with, I have the freedom of
speech to say something about that. This person is free to respond and explain
his actions. In this I always try to respect the person himself, whether this is
Rijk, RichPissman or anyone else.

In the last thread i posted my final post i would post on this forum about Gulden, but this post of BioMike needs me to respond one more time.

I am only a Gulden hodler for little over a year, and even shorter active on this forum. I never really agreed with BioMike and let him know that in some responses. In several of my posts i also stated that i respect his opionion and the way he outs it on this forum. It is sad that he is threathened with legal action. That being said it looks like legal action is more about RichPissman , who might share certain views similar to Mike, but is outing that in a total different way. Potentially breaking the law (slander). If i would be a business owner and both my company name and my personal name would have been abused the way Rich Pissman abused Rijk/Gulden, i would 100% press legal charges to the person (if i would find out their real name). Because you have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean you can say everything.

It is real stupid that Rijk want to put his time, money and energy in something like a courtcase.  I rather have that he puts his time, money and energy in promoting Gulden.

I really believe that Rijk wants the best for Gulden and that he can be a nice guy but it think we also ALL can agree that he made some mistakes like kicking all those people from his Slack.  The  new slack allrdy has a much more relaxed vibe i think.  Everyone can say what he thinks without being afraid of being banned.  Ask every question he or she wants.  Talk about other coins just like the other slack should be but never has been.

I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P.  ,  Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......

Even if Rijk Plasman said he will never do marketing ...
From what I understand daddy Plasman is a public people
So if they go to courtcase it will have a wide coverage ... newspaper... tv ... etc finally he will do marketing ! 😁

But I don’t know if it will be positive or not for the g
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August 23, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
#39
So, it seems Rijk and his dad are preparing a court case and I'm asked
to distance myself from RichPissman. I could put a pointless, single line
claim here, but I don't do that, as it isn't my style. I thought I've
always been very clear towards my stance regarding Gulden en Rijk, which
partially overlaps with RichPissman's opinion. This is due to my history
with Rijk and Gulden in general.

I have no issues with Gulden and and have said it before multiple times that
Gulden in essence is a good idea and I would love to see it succeed. Yet, I
don't agree that the path chosen in the past few years is the right one.

In this part I disagree with Rijk and the dev team. We had and probably still
have different opinions about that. Also, how I saw how he managed things
it became clear to me that he and I have quite different personalities and
those would collide. Currently, I don't see myself cooperating with him or have
the need to have Rijk as a friend.

So far the things that I and RichPissman most likely have in common. My sayings
and actions come from the background described above, not because of RichPissman
or anyone else on the forum.

As for the way RichPissman expresses himself, I personally would never do it in
such strong words. Again, not my style. I always try to have discussions on the
subject that is being discussed and matters, not on a person himself. If
however a person does something that I don't agree with, I have the freedom of
speech to say something about that. This person is free to respond and explain
his actions. In this I always try to respect the person himself, whether this is
Rijk, RichPissman or anyone else.

In the last thread i posted my final post i would post on this forum about Gulden, but this post of BioMike needs me to respond one more time.

I am only a Gulden hodler for little over a year, and even shorter active on this forum. I never really agreed with BioMike and let him know that in some responses. In several of my posts i also stated that i respect his opionion and the way he outs it on this forum. It is sad that he is threathened with legal action. That being said it looks like legal action is more about RichPissman , who might share certain views similar to Mike, but is outing that in a total different way. Potentially breaking the law (slander). If i would be a business owner and both my company name and my personal name would have been abused the way Rich Pissman abused Rijk/Gulden, i would 100% press legal charges to the person (if i would find out their real name). Because you have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean you can say everything.

It is real stupid that Rijk want to put his time, money and energy in something like a courtcase.  I rather have that he puts his time, money and energy in promoting Gulden.

I really believe that Rijk wants the best for Gulden and that he can be a nice guy but it think we also ALL can agree that he made some mistakes like kicking all those people from his Slack.  The  new slack allrdy has a much more relaxed vibe i think.  Everyone can say what he thinks without being afraid of being banned.  Ask every question he or she wants.  Talk about other coins just like the other slack should be but never has been.

I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P.  ,  Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......
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August 23, 2018, 04:04:37 PM
#38
I dont think anybody else brought the slander like RichPissman did
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August 23, 2018, 03:54:50 PM
#37
It's funny how different people here compare the Trump/MSM/Left/Right in different ways to Gulden.

Me, I compare myself more to Alex Jones and InfoWars. Trying to set blatant lies straight that the main stream Gulden media tries to spread. Looks like Rijk and his dad try to compare themselves to the deep state, trying to bully everyone that is not in line with their desired narrative.

We are the resistance!

Who will Rijk turn on next for the declining prices?
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August 23, 2018, 12:42:07 PM
#36
So, it seems Rijk and his dad are preparing a court case and I'm asked
to distance myself from RichPissman. I could put a pointless, single line
claim here, but I don't do that, as it isn't my style. I thought I've
always been very clear towards my stance regarding Gulden en Rijk, which
partially overlaps with RichPissman's opinion. This is due to my history
with Rijk and Gulden in general.

I have no issues with Gulden and and have said it before multiple times that
Gulden in essence is a good idea and I would love to see it succeed. Yet, I
don't agree that the path chosen in the past few years is the right one.

In this part I disagree with Rijk and the dev team. We had and probably still
have different opinions about that. Also, how I saw how he managed things
it became clear to me that he and I have quite different personalities and
those would collide. Currently, I don't see myself cooperating with him or have
the need to have Rijk as a friend.

So far the things that I and RichPissman most likely have in common. My sayings
and actions come from the background described above, not because of RichPissman
or anyone else on the forum.

As for the way RichPissman expresses himself, I personally would never do it in
such strong words. Again, not my style. I always try to have discussions on the
subject that is being discussed and matters, not on a person himself. If
however a person does something that I don't agree with, I have the freedom of
speech to say something about that. This person is free to respond and explain
his actions. In this I always try to respect the person himself, whether this is
Rijk, RichPissman or anyone else.

In the last thread i posted my final post i would post on this forum about Gulden, but this post of BioMike needs me to respond one more time.

I am only a Gulden hodler for little over a year, and even shorter active on this forum. I never really agreed with BioMike and let him know that in some responses. In several of my posts i also stated that i respect his opionion and the way he outs it on this forum. It is sad that he is threathened with legal action. That being said it looks like legal action is more about RichPissman , who might share certain views similar to Mike, but is outing that in a total different way. Potentially breaking the law (slander). If i would be a business owner and both my company name and my personal name would have been abused the way Rich Pissman abused Rijk/Gulden, i would 100% press legal charges to the person (if i would find out their real name). Because you have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean you can say everything.
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August 23, 2018, 12:02:02 PM
#35
Meanwhile, at the risk of getting jailed for it, here is the latest rate of Gulden:



Just like the approval rates of the MSM  Grin
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August 23, 2018, 11:36:19 AM
#34
It's funny how different people here compare the Trump/MSM/Left/Right in different ways to Gulden.

Me, I compare myself more to Alex Jones and InfoWars. Trying to set blatant lies straight that the main stream Gulden media tries to spread. Looks like Rijk and his dad try to compare themselves to the deep state, trying to bully everyone that is not in line with their desired narrative.

We are the resistance!
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August 23, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
#33
And then, it remained awefully quiet.
This is my que to withdraw myself from this forum and Gulden all together.

I'll come back from time to time to read about the proceedings of the trial.


It is sad to lost an active member like you , even if we have not always the same opinion ...



You SJWs would never talk like this in public man to man because you know it's wrong. Here is a interview with Candace Owens on how she got red pilled because her company pretended they were creating a program that could determine the real identities of twitter users and fake accounts on other platforms. The truth is without some rules things will turn into shit with no direction.

Candace Owens interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSAoitd1BTQ&t=42s

The far left are turning their European countries into third world shitholes (Like San Francisco) and the US was going the same way before Trump was elected. Rijk is the Trump of Gulden and has rules in place for a reason, without rules Gulden will become like Paris.

Paris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56b_rmUHUg4

I do not see any relation between your links and the gulden ...

For sure we need rules , but rule has not to be opposed to free speak.

Trump is close to be impeached sorry for you

Democrats are on a witch hunt because they can't accept the loss. They have Hollywood and the MSM behind them but more people are waking up to the truth.
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August 23, 2018, 09:46:05 AM
#32
And then, it remained awefully quiet.
This is my que to withdraw myself from this forum and Gulden all together.

I'll come back from time to time to read about the proceedings of the trial.


It is sad to lost an active member like you , even if we have not always the same opinion ...



You SJWs would never talk like this in public man to man because you know it's wrong. Here is a interview with Candace Owens on how she got red pilled because her company pretended they were creating a program that could determine the real identities of twitter users and fake accounts on other platforms. The truth is without some rules things will turn into shit with no direction.

Candace Owens interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSAoitd1BTQ&t=42s

The far left are turning their European countries into third world shitholes (Like San Francisco) and the US was going the same way before Trump was elected. Rijk is the Trump of Gulden and has rules in place for a reason, without rules Gulden will become like Paris.

Paris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56b_rmUHUg4

I do not see any relation between your links and the gulden ...

For sure we need rules , but rule has not to be opposed to free speak.

Trump is close to be impeached sorry for you
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