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Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!

and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

I don't think that there's a correlation between the two market though.

Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!

Well I have the same theory specially when Bakkt postponed its offering for next year. I'm have the idea that they're just laying out the some ground work before finally going live in 2019 and by that time, perhaps the overall sentiments of the market is quite different, but who knows.

Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

What happened back then is people is waiting for the news before pouring their money on the market, However, SEC also delayed their decision next year, causing the bear market to continue up to this point. I can only speculate that if SEC did approved it in the prior months, the price could have been higher that 5 digits before the end of the year.

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It is a very good sign for bitcoin. bitcoin has been in the shadows of red markets for some couple of months and really good to see the market showing green again. and I hope things become better like this.

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Quote from: realcrypto on December 20, 2018, 02:47:38 PM

All what we need is bull run, and the bull run have started already. If the crash in stock market will bring bull run in cryptocurrency markert, we will still be happy to have black Friday this christmas.

in times of economic downturn people look to store there wealth in gold and silver, i would love to think what would happen if people started using Bitcoin for this instead. I dont think we are there yet but the day will come...

I agree with you, more or less the global economic conditions will have an impact on the crypto market. Because maybe, some people have the view that crypto in the long run still has good potential as an asset for investment

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Quote from: Onuohakk on December 21, 2018, 03:11:56 AM

The crash of the stock exchange should not be a reason for there to be bullish run well I would attribute a bullish run to come after the decisions of sec meeting which is that we might see a bullish run next year

I think, right now we don't know how stable the price is. but, if there is a decline, I think it is caused because of a massive sale, or bad news. well, but I hope that doesn't happen.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM

You are way too optimistic op. I don't think that the stock market crash will have a huge impact on the cryptocurrency market and this only seems like a bull trap at the moment unless Bitcoin crosses $8k which I highly doubt will happen anytime soon.

The next big rally will occur will most likely in 1-5 years and I am expecting Bitcoin to reach a new high through that rally which is why I am confident that the market will recover with time.

Yeah, the OP sounds too optimistic. Well, with your response, you are quite the opposite. You sound too pessimistic. If you consider a pump reaching lesser than $8,000 as a bull trap, I don't agree. May I remind you that we are coming from a little more than $3,000, not $5,000 or $6,000. With Bitcoin reaching $4,000-$5,000, even if slow yet consistent, that is enough sign for me that we are already starting to recover. That will take time of course. There is so much to recover.

The next big rally will happen in less than a year definitely.

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The crash of the stock exchange should not be a reason for there to be bullish run well I would attribute a bullish run to come after the decisions of sec meeting which is that we might see a bullish run next year

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I think the bull run is starting soon because the bearish market isendede or so it seems.
Although that is my opinion generally, it may differ from another's perspective.
Bull run may start from February if the rumour flying around is anything to go by.

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When the bull runs starts then automatically all good news will start to flow from all side, and i think this time the bottom has reached and market is preparing the bull run, but dont think that it will go fast as it will take its own time to reach new high.

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I don't know I guess it's just your assumption, maybe true maybe not, but the slight pump is a good sign but we are still a very long way to go, maybe you are right that ETF will approve Bitcoin because they are delaying it for some reasons, they are waiting I guess for a solid ground why they should approve it.

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I didn't even think that those from the stock market will actually put their money on bitcoin. Given the fact that there still many people who are waiting for bitcoin to recover from the big loss and get their money back.

Well, there is nothing bad regards that and I think it really can happen. But let's not remove the fact also that there are other instruments more secure than the volatile bitcoin.

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You are way too optimistic op. I don't think that the stock market crash will have a huge impact on the cryptocurrency market and this only seems like a bull trap at the moment unless Bitcoin crosses $8k which I highly doubt will happen anytime soon.

The next big rally will occur will most likely in 1-5 years and I am expecting Bitcoin to reach a new high through that rally which is why I am confident that the market will recover with time.

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Seen some positive signs recently, looks like a slow turning around is in the progress, we'll see.

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Quote from: TimtheYoutuber on December 20, 2018, 01:59:49 PM

I don't think the stock market crashing will make a huge impact on crypto. People will just start buying more bonds, and gold. Cryptocurrency still has a long way to go in order to be adopted, and as a speculative asset, it can be dangerous. People need to focus more on technology and building blockchains that work and can function at a high level instead of rent-seeking.

technology is what makes the crypto so fast to be adopted. its unlike the 2001 anymore. crypto is a whole new level.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 20, 2018, 02:47:38 PM

All what we need is bull run, and the bull run have started already. If the crash in stock market will bring bull run in cryptocurrency markert, we will still be happy to have black Friday this christmas.

yes, it lines up perfectly.

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Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to at least 50K!!

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

Good note I see it also
But the correlation between the stock market decline and the rise of the cryptocurrency market
Need evidence to confirm it
Shares suffer from Japan (SOFT BANK)
To the historic decline in the Dubai market
I hope that investors are turning to encryption
The situation will be much better.

the money from stocks have to go somewhere. stocks (which is pumped by useless fiat money) and crypto is a different type of asset class.

Quote from: jointherevolution on December 20, 2018, 03:36:58 PM

The stocks going down is not always an indication that bull run is coming. The stocks are down some time now, even if bull run starts how can we say that this is due to stick market crash if it's going on for so long? Both markets are down for a while now.

it's just down only.

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Better to do not count your chicken first before they are hatched, its just like there are lot of predictions like this before but the experts of this are become foolish for so many times due to bearish market so i suggest that we should just wait and see so that you will not be disappointed again if the bull run will not happen as desired.

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The SEC is a gatekeeper for the wealthy elite and they will base their decision on what is ordered from their masters. Their masters control the financial instruments on the stock markets and they know where to store their wealth, when things are bad.

The masters also know that external manipulation of the Bitcoin price, will take away the control that they have over all "tools" that are used to protect their wealth. They will not allow a financial instrument that they cannot control, so an approval of a Bitcoin ETF would be very doubtful. Angry

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Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to at least 50K!!

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

I agree with you on the delays of approval of the SEC and once there are done with the screening and findings the rest will be history the bull run is gona return and and bitcoin price is going to skyrocket suddenly again, but to predict a 50k price of bitcoin may be statement out of curiosity since bitcoin is highly volatile in price.

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It looks like bull run starts soon as we are used to compare with past years. But that's not the case. Cryto is changing from a day to another, stop being blinded by cyclical graphics and signs as crypto is not stocks or fiat. If something happened 2 years ago and a pattern looks a bit similar now this doesn't mean it will just happen again.

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Quote from: realcrypto on December 20, 2018, 02:47:38 PM

All what we need is bull run, and the bull run have started already. If the crash in stock market will bring bull run in cryptocurrency markert, we will still be happy to have black Friday this christmas.

It was expected that bull run would begin soon but how soon that was just not sure. Also with this last night recover btc prices are now above 4k which is a good sign as we are seeing momentum is gaining back and before new year people would like to make some money and party during the end.

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I think if the stock market crashed, it could affect the crypto market and makes some people move to the crypto market and it will help the market get a lot of people comes. But I don't think that people run away from the stock market even if it's a crash because there will be people use the opportunity to make a lot of buy order.

We could only hope this time will trigger bitcoin price to increase and break the higher rate so we could see another 20k (if the price can reach that price). Perhaps, there is manipulation happen in the market, but we don't know for sure, and as long as we can make a profit, I don't think that people will bother with that Cheesy

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Quote from: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 12:35:04 PM

The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.

Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to at least 50K!!

i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!

when stocks crash, the workers in those companies will become the owners of the companies. and they will start defining things, and demand things because they will be begged by all to feed them.

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