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I cannot emphasize enough how important 2FA is ensuring your funds is safe. Just because bitcoin offer security does not mean it is as secure as the fort knox. It has chinks in the armor and cracks in its shield that experienced hackers can take advantage of and sabotage, so it's better to take care of your money like it's your child, or the child of your friend you were asked to carry for a while.

Quote from: iv4n on January 21, 2021, 04:21:18 PM

After reading the OP comment I didn't quite understand how he was robbed! I am playing on Bitsler for some time, and I didn't have any problems with my deposits or withdraws. This is probably a special case, malwalre or pishing site, who knows, but it's not the reason to badmouth a casino becuse of it!
2FA is for protection, and when you have additional protection it's always better! I never had problems with 2FA, and I recommend it to people I know, so this topic concerns me a bit... I think that OP did something wrong, but he is not aware of it! He will have to rethink his steps!

Prolly not from Bitsler but somewhere along the path of transaction, Bitsler is secured, but then again we cannot really say for certain what happened. Let this just become a costly lesson to OP to use 2FA next time.

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Quote from: South Park on January 20, 2021, 02:26:39 PM

I think most bitcoin users go through a stage like that the problem is that some never outgrow it, as an example when I was just starting out in this market I had my bitcoin in an online wallet, and I thought that it was fine then one day that online wallet did not allowed me to login for two days, they didn't scam me or anything it was just technical issues on their end but as you may guess I was terribly worried, that is when I realized the importance of controlling your own keys and since then I am the one that is in control of my coins.

People wont really learn if they wont really be experiencing mistakes and even myself do experience such thing to on where i was too confident on using up custodial wallets
or platforms that doesnt really give out the access of your own keys until they do close up their doors or do state out some issue which you cant
really able to recover those coins back since you havent those keys.

2fa and other authentication had been given out but due to carelessness and other possible bruteforce, it can really be bypassed but it seems
that human error is most likely the reason.

Fortunately I was able to learn my lesson without having to lose my money in the process but some people are not that fortunate, we need to be very clear no one is going to help us if we lose our coins which means we need to protect our coins as good as we can and if that means that when we deposit coins in a casino we need to enable 2FA then so be it, because the minutes you spend doing this are a better use of your time than complaining when your coins are stolen and you see the price of bitcoin skyrocketing.

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Quote from: dunfida on January 23, 2021, 06:56:21 PM

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Quote from: CarnagexD on January 21, 2021, 03:43:46 PM

Scammers are becoming more clever by the day. So it's either you rest easy and take the chance or secure yourself nd be future-proof. As of now no one can beat 2FA unless they stole your phone too so I would really suggest setting up 2FA.that couple of minutes of inconvenience would save you thousands of dollars in the long run.

That is why we always suggest people install and enable the 2FA on their account, especially if that account has the money inside.
The scammers will find out which account that already enables the 2FA, and which account does not activate 2FA because they have many ways to search for that info.
We can only activate every security that the site suggests to us to feel safe from the hacker, although we can not get 100% safety from them.
At least, we can minimize the chance to get hacked by them.

Some sites only suggested you to enable 2FA in your account, while some even required you to do so, I like a site that requires its gamblers to ensure that accounts are safer since it has a high security. In this scenario, OP knows the risk because he is a techy guy but he choose not put secured his account with 2FA, but with what happen, I'm sure he will enable it if he still continues using the site.

Once you get or experience those events on losing money and it do connects with security then i highly doubt that he wont come back on using the site after the incident.
Even if you are techy then it doesnt mean that this will really be making you exclude into those hacking possibilities.In talks about mandatory 2fa then its really a bit off to me
just like on other platform or exchangers that do ask out this security measure before you can proceed on using them up.Its just me but this one is really annoying,
making it as an optional is a better one but people should always consider on the safe side rather than taking step when its already too late.

Another wall to your precious money against thief is very important, people who value their earnings are the people who succeed in this field, and security is also included in those, making extra security will help users feel east, so no matter if the site requires to enable 2fa, we should make it a habit, because it will save us in a long run, against people who had no job but steal money from hard working people.

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Quote from: traderethereum on January 22, 2021, 02:11:14 AM

Quote from: CarnagexD on January 21, 2021, 03:43:46 PM

Scammers are becoming more clever by the day. So it's either you rest easy and take the chance or secure yourself nd be future-proof. As of now no one can beat 2FA unless they stole your phone too so I would really suggest setting up 2FA.that couple of minutes of inconvenience would save you thousands of dollars in the long run.

That is why we always suggest people install and enable the 2FA on their account, especially if that account has the money inside.
The scammers will find out which account that already enables the 2FA, and which account does not activate 2FA because they have many ways to search for that info.
We can only activate every security that the site suggests to us to feel safe from the hacker, although we can not get 100% safety from them.
At least, we can minimize the chance to get hacked by them.

Some sites only suggested you to enable 2FA in your account, while some even required you to do so, I like a site that requires its gamblers to ensure that accounts are safer since it has a high security. In this scenario, OP knows the risk because he is a techy guy but he choose not put secured his account with 2FA, but with what happen, I'm sure he will enable it if he still continues using the site.

Once you get or experience those events on losing money and it do connects with security then i highly doubt that he wont come back on using the site after the incident.
Even if you are techy then it doesnt mean that this will really be making you exclude into those hacking possibilities.In talks about mandatory 2fa then its really a bit off to me
just like on other platform or exchangers that do ask out this security measure before you can proceed on using them up.Its just me but this one is really annoying,
making it as an optional is a better one but people should always consider on the safe side rather than taking step when its already too late.

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 15, 2021, 07:02:50 AM

Sorry for that, next time make sure you have it enabled, we never know what will happen in our account it's better to have some other protection aside from the default, an extra layer of security will have your peace of mine, I hope that it will never happen again and secure your other accounts that don't have 2fa enabled lets rebound, don't worry those who robbed you will lose more than that, and you will gain more, have trust in yourself.

The problem with 2-FA is that we feel tired and boring when someone asks us to implement it within our account but once the loss has happened we get to realize the importance. Some people might not like the example but its like when someone is raped we take it lightly but once it happens to someone in our family we start to understand the seriousness behind the problem.

As long as we don't lose funds we don't understand how important it is and why sites are recommending it as a secondary security layer. I hope he learnt the lesson unfortunately though the hard way and lets hope he recover like you said, believe in yourself.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on January 21, 2021, 03:43:46 PM

Scammers are becoming more clever by the day. So it's either you rest easy and take the chance or secure yourself nd be future-proof. As of now no one can beat 2FA unless they stole your phone too so I would really suggest setting up 2FA.that couple of minutes of inconvenience would save you thousands of dollars in the long run.

That is why we always suggest people install and enable the 2FA on their account, especially if that account has the money inside.
The scammers will find out which account that already enables the 2FA, and which account does not activate 2FA because they have many ways to search for that info.
We can only activate every security that the site suggests to us to feel safe from the hacker, although we can not get 100% safety from them.
At least, we can minimize the chance to get hacked by them.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on January 15, 2021, 08:09:12 AM

Foremost, I want to commend you for this noble act, I don’t think that everybody would do the same if they earn that amount from a technique they’ve discovered.
I believe that you had a good reputation with the casino since this act, thus I doubt that they would such as scamming you. I agree that you may have been monitored.
It is most likely that your account or device have been compromised and hackers are on the look out. Good thing that you have learned your lesson although it’s a shame to learn this way. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Well as much as I respect him too the truth is that bitsler would easily notice in case he tried to run away when he found those bugs.

now coming back to his lost funds, it is really bad and yeah the site should do something for the players who have been as loyal as he claimed he has been because for the site those might not be a hefty amount but for an individual it is severe loss.

I haven't been able to read all the case but from what I understand, he lost funds and when requested by the bitsler staff to check the computer for viruses he found some and deleted them. hopefully the case is solved but the coins lost are gone, that's the thing with Bitcoins even if he knows where the stolen coins are stored nothing can be done.

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After reading the OP comment I didn't quite understand how he was robbed! I am playing on Bitsler for some time, and I didn't have any problems with my deposits or withdraws. This is probably a special case, malwalre or pishing site, who knows, but it's not the reason to badmouth a casino becuse of it!
2FA is for protection, and when you have additional protection it's always better! I never had problems with 2FA, and I recommend it to people I know, so this topic concerns me a bit... I think that OP did something wrong, but he is not aware of it! He will have to rethink his steps!

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on January 18, 2021, 01:40:05 AM

Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2021, 02:38:50 PM

Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

Good thing that my friends taught me this lesson a long time ago and that I listened to them even though I am a lazy person when it comes to this kind of things. How did it go for you now that you are hodling your coins? I can see that you are a little obsessed with your security online, you must have a lot of funds that makes you that which is understandable. After all, we are the only one that can protect our accounts online.

No one else indeed! it's your knowledge and full understanding that will help you to protect yourself from those hackers, lots of times that this kind of hacking experienced happened.

You can't blame anyone but yourself , hackers are simply waiting for someone who will feed them by not doing proper research on how to protect their money while still involve to this industry, those stories are now the basis or lesson that readers are acquiring being well aware and have the knowledge on how to use every possible securities that the sites are offering.

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Scammers are becoming more clever by the day. So it's either you rest easy and take the chance or secure yourself nd be future-proof. As of now no one can beat 2FA unless they stole your phone too so I would really suggest setting up 2FA.that couple of minutes of inconvenience would save you thousands of dollars in the long run.

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Well, Gabe being the owner and not the one who is directly partaking in the function of those below his hierarchy would have nothing else to do or say but that. Also, I don't realy want to put the blame on your end but with you activating 2FA, this could very much likely be avoided. People nowadays are becoming more and more clever with taking advantage of honest people like you so if you don't ride the times, you won't fare well in this industry.

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Sorry to hear your loss mate, maybe scammers are already monitoring you because of your recent gains on roulette and didn't hesistate to scam when you deposited another bitcoin. Also, maybe there are parts that is your fault because you have just deposited a bunch of money without securing the account first. Every accounts in the internet can possibly be bypassed now that's why 2fa is a thing. Lesson learned, you should secure your account next time before putting money on it.

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Quote from: South Park on January 20, 2021, 02:26:39 PM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on January 18, 2021, 01:40:05 AM

Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2021, 02:38:50 PM

Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

Good thing that my friends taught me this lesson a long time ago and that I listened to them even though I am a lazy person when it comes to this kind of things. How did it go for you now that you are hodling your coins? I can see that you are a little obsessed with your security online, you must have a lot of funds that makes you that which is understandable. After all, we are the only one that can protect our accounts online.

I think most bitcoin users go through a stage like that the problem is that some never outgrow it, as an example when I was just starting out in this market I had my bitcoin in an online wallet, and I thought that it was fine then one day that online wallet did not allowed me to login for two days, they didn't scam me or anything it was just technical issues on their end but as you may guess I was terribly worried, that is when I realized the importance of controlling your own keys and since then I am the one that is in control of my coins.

People wont really learn if they wont really be experiencing mistakes and even myself do experience such thing to on where i was too confident on using up custodial wallets
or platforms that doesnt really give out the access of your own keys until they do close up their doors or do state out some issue which you cant
really able to recover those coins back since you havent those keys.

2fa and other authentication had been given out but due to carelessness and other possible bruteforce, it can really be bypassed but it seems
that human error is most likely the reason.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on January 18, 2021, 01:40:05 AM

Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2021, 02:38:50 PM

Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

Good thing that my friends taught me this lesson a long time ago and that I listened to them even though I am a lazy person when it comes to this kind of things. How did it go for you now that you are hodling your coins? I can see that you are a little obsessed with your security online, you must have a lot of funds that makes you that which is understandable. After all, we are the only one that can protect our accounts online.

I think most bitcoin users go through a stage like that the problem is that some never outgrow it, as an example when I was just starting out in this market I had my bitcoin in an online wallet, and I thought that it was fine then one day that online wallet did not allowed me to login for two days, they didn't scam me or anything it was just technical issues on their end but as you may guess I was terribly worried, that is when I realized the importance of controlling your own keys and since then I am the one that is in control of my coins.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 17, 2021, 02:48:50 PM

Leaving your coins neither on an exchange platform or a gambling site then you don't really posses the keys of that certain wallet. Lots of incidents that do connects out with some hacking or robbery that do involves even 2fa was set or not. Sounds impossible? it do actually happens.

When it comes to security then people do neglect out even on the slightest or the most simpliest way that shouldn't really be neglected out.

People do only realize that they had made up some mistake when they had already lost their money and if they do able to realize it earlier then they might
able to save up their own ass.

So when you want to gamble, you can deposit some money and do not spend too much money because that can make you playing gambling for a long time. Even if you do not install 2fa or other verification, you do not have to worry about losing the money because of hacking or other bad things because you do not store big money in gambling.

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Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2021, 02:38:50 PM

Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

Good thing that my friends taught me this lesson a long time ago and that I listened to them even though I am a lazy person when it comes to this kind of things. How did it go for you now that you are hodling your coins? I can see that you are a little obsessed with your security online, you must have a lot of funds that makes you that which is understandable. After all, we are the only one that can protect our accounts online.

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Quote from: mindrust on January 17, 2021, 02:38:50 PM

Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

Leaving your coins neither on an exchange platform or a gambling site then you don't really posses the keys of that certain wallet. Lots of incidents that do connects out with
some hacking or robbery that do involves even 2fa was set or not. Sounds impossible? it do actually happens.

When it comes to security then people do neglect out even on the slightest or the most simpliest way that shouldn't really be neglected out.

People do only realize that they had made up some mistake when they had already lost their money and if they do able to realize it earlier then they might
able to save up their own ass.

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Another "not your keys not your coins" case.

I was having nightmares when I was keeping my coins on exchange. During that period, every night I had that fear "what if I am being robbed right now?" and I had all the precautions. 2FA, strong password etc. Being a holder is not easy task.

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Quote from: maydna on January 12, 2021, 08:11:44 PM

Quote from: South Park on January 12, 2021, 06:18:42 PM

Quote from: maydna on January 07, 2021, 08:48:18 PM

~snip~

It is as simple as that, we must not see 2FA as a waste of time but as an opportunity to secure our coins further, since the price of bitcoin has been going up a great deal of hackers have turned their attention once again to this market and in order to avoid becoming a victim of them then we need to secure our coins to the best of our abilities and 2FA is a great feature that casinos offer us, as even in the case a hacker gets access to your account they still cannot move your coins no matter what they do.

Yes, installing 2FA is not too long, which will help us prevent hackers from penetrating our account. Right now, the hacker search for their target in many ways and they improve their skills by learning many things. So if we don't concern our account, the hacker will enter our account and take our money. I think if we follow whatever the casino suggestion, together, we can protect our account, and the hacker will not have a chance to penetrate the member's account.

We must be very humble, hackers have a greater amount of knowledge about the technology than what we would ever have and if we don't take the time to do everything that we can to secure our coins then we are only making their life even easier, there have been many examples in this forum of people losing their money to hackers without knowing how it happened and if we are to learn something from all of those experiences is that we need to secure coins because if we don't we could become the next victims of those criminals.

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Quote from: akirasendo17 on January 15, 2021, 07:02:50 AM

Sorry for that, next time make sure you have it enabled, we never know what will happen in our account it's better to have some other protection aside from the default, an extra layer of security will have your peace of mine, I hope that it will never happen again and secure your other accounts that don't have 2fa enabled lets rebound, don't worry those who robbed you will lose more than that, and you will gain more, have trust in yourself.

I disagree with you, an extra layer of security is not always peace of mind, because if you lose your second or third factor of authentication, you lose access to your account and to your funds on it. So at the end the result is the same as if you had been robbed.

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