No 2FA and robbed of 0.097BTC - page 4.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 03, 2021, 10:03:58 AM

That is a big loss. I can not imagine how it feels, but I know that really makes us feel down in deep.

For an ordinary gambler who can't spare such amount of money the said amount that OP loss is really regretful, there are lots
of things that you can use this money if you manage to secure it properly.

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It is a big lesson for us, never underestimate 2fa because we activate it, preventing us from something that we do not want to get.

It's a another layer for your security, activating this feature will allow you to guard your money, hackers won't be able to get
anything without your knowledge.

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I hope you do not have to get the same experience in the future, and always make sure that you already activate 2fa in all sites using 2fa.

Lesson learned for sure, as OP bring this topic out to aware those newbies and those who are not using this for their own protections,.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 30, 2020, 11:43:56 PM

Or probably think that your machine is already compromise that's why the hackers are just monitoring you activity and once you deposited to bitsler, they didn't waste anytime to get your bitsler account and your password to steal your bitcoins.

So better not used your pc or your laptop for now because and think of your machine as their mode of entry. 2FA is very important now, gambling sites or exchanges, everything, specially that hacks are very sophisticated now and we don't know if we are already in their target list.

I think it will be important to know where the OP has his wallet, because if his computer was the weak point that allowed those scammers to steal his money then this means that any valuable information that sits in that computer is going to be at risk and it is just a matter of time until the OP losses a lot more than that, so if he has his wallet on his computer but he has an external backup of his seed words maybe it is time to wipe out his hard drive and install a new OS as soon as possible.

I think OP has done cleaning his computer and basically traced where the malware originated yet he didn't get any resolve/response from the site but instead he's automatically blocked because of his recent comment. I don't think a reputable casino would hack him but the support is telling him who's the scammer's name. If I were the OP I wouldn't log/surf to a random sites with my personal PC/laptop to ensure the security and safety of my money.

This is what hardware wallets are for, they are a cheap device that allow you to store your coins with extreme safety, but the disaster that is happening with ledger will probably stop many users from getting a hardware wallet, so what to do? An option is that if you have an old laptop or smartphone you could use that to store your wallet there, in the case of very old computers you could use a lightweight Linux distribution, install it in a a very old computer and then install your wallet there, it will be like a hardware wallet without additional costs.

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I am very sorry to ear about that loose. Generally speaking if you are not sure why this happens you should change immediately your password from another computer. Your device could be compromised or you have used a very weak password...

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That is a big loss. I can not imagine how it feels, but I know that really makes us feel down in deep. It is a big lesson for us, never underestimate 2fa because we activate it, preventing us from something that we do not want to get. I hope you do not have to get the same experience in the future, and always make sure that you already activate 2fa in all sites using 2fa.

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Based on OP's post he is not blaming the site and count the experience as a lesson learned to always used 2FA authentication something we sometimes overlooked because we are comfortable using our password alone, he is still going to play on Bitsler and what he is posting is a warning that we should enable security features of gambling site that we are playing, it's not the gambling site's fault and OP still trust them.

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Feel so sorry for your loss but that already happened and we couldn't turn the money back to you anymore, scammers are always there and will try to steal money from other people so be careful when transferring huge amount of money, maybe your device is already coped with a virus which helps those scammers steal your money, that is why using the 2FA is an important thing for everyone to avoid things like this.

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At least it only around 0.09 btc lose compared to your winnings. Besides, I believe that you have made a lot.of.contribution to the platform not only returning the mbtc you earn from cheating but also by telling them the bugs that happen within the platform. If only you are not telling them the truth then you can actually get money free from them by playing the roulette game. Just let go of 0.09btc and focus on how to secure your account to avoid anymore fund losses.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on January 03, 2021, 09:29:13 AM

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Quote from: ecnalubma on January 03, 2021, 08:22:05 AM

Sorry for your big loss, if this things won’t happen we will not realise the importance of 2fa security feature. But I think even without your 2fa enabled, the site should automatically notify you if there’s a suspicious login to your account. In my opinion the site was accountable for that incident.

I don't think that they should be really accountable for this, and op still has a mistake for not enabling 2fa when we know that this kind of incidence is becoming more rampant. It's a part of being careful and securing our account but since he didn't enable it, he was vulnerable to getting robbed. But it's good that their support team is responsive and helpful to op though I don't think the site would be giving back the money that he lost or something because it's not really their fault. At least op learned his lessons now.

Their response is the worth help (enough) but doubted if they will give some money to OP as it was not their fault. it is really our responsibility to take care of our account and that OP might not also blind to what it happens around, we can't just ignore the rampant hacking incident but it was very unfortunate how OP neglected to see and let this thing to happen before he realized.
I hope we never hear this thing again and to know how important it was.

There were such incident in the past and nothing was actually not be given to the victims becasue it's not the fault of the gambling platform but the gambler. Possibly this will be a lesson to all gamblers and investors to be careful about securing their account first before proceed to make deposit. Sincerely, most of my gambling platforms registered always go along with 2fa except if the gambling platform doesn't required such, but almost my cryptocurrency exchanges do go with 2fa for more security against hackers.

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That's too painful, you got robbed instantly, the moment you deposited that amount, it is kinda big actually, anyway I think maybe you click some phishing emails that has been sent in your account, and that thing is the reason why you got hacked, or it could be also you password vulnerability, maybe your password is somehow similar to your personal info maybe bdays or what, or inside job can be a reason as well, it is just sad that even you helped them to fix their bugs they cannot do anything, well yes they cannot do anything to that just always use 2FA, and remember they are just businessman so even you did a good job before and sent back 33btc I think you should get it, because you've earned it.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on January 03, 2021, 09:15:18 AM

Quote from: ecnalubma on January 03, 2021, 08:22:05 AM

Sorry for your big loss, if this things won’t happen we will not realise the importance of 2fa security feature. But I think even without your 2fa enabled, the site should automatically notify you if there’s a suspicious login to your account. In my opinion the site was accountable for that incident.

I don't think that they should be really accountable for this, and op still has a mistake for not enabling 2fa when we know that this kind of incidence is becoming more rampant. It's a part of being careful and securing our account but since he didn't enable it, he was vulnerable to getting robbed. But it's good that their support team is responsive and helpful to op though I don't think the site would be giving back the money that he lost or something because it's not really their fault. At least op learned his lessons now.

Their response is the worth help (enough) but doubted if they will give some money to OP as it was not their fault. it is really our responsibility to take care of our account and that OP might not also blind to what it happens around, we can't just ignore the rampant hacking incident but it was very unfortunate how OP neglected to see and let this thing to happen before he realized.
I hope we never hear this thing again and to know how important it was.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on January 03, 2021, 08:22:05 AM

Sorry for your big loss, if this things won’t happen we will not realise the importance of 2fa security feature. But I think even without your 2fa enabled, the site should automatically notify you if there’s a suspicious login to your account. In my opinion the site was accountable for that incident.

I don't think that they should be really accountable for this, and op still has a mistake for not enabling 2fa when we know that this kind of incidence is becoming more rampant. It's a part of being careful and securing our account but since he didn't enable it, he was vulnerable to getting robbed. But it's good that their support team is responsive and helpful to op though I don't think the site would be giving back the money that he lost or something because it's not really their fault. At least op learned his lessons now.

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Sorry for your big loss, if this things won’t happen we will not realise the importance of 2fa security feature. But I think even without your 2fa enabled, the site should automatically notify you if there’s a suspicious login to your account. In my opinion the site was accountable for that incident.

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Quote from: Taskford on January 03, 2021, 06:36:16 AM

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Quote from: Theraker on December 30, 2020, 10:47:06 PM

I actually returned 33 Bitcoin to them last May. Because I found a technique on their Roulette game that couldn’t lose. I told them early on. After I was up to 38 Bitcoin profit they took 32 Bitcoin back and gave me just over 6 Bitcoin as a bounty. Yet when I’m basically robbed of 0.097BTC all the owner, Gabriel can say to me is, “damn all those scamers are really a cancer!” My 2FA is enabled now.

They are not being fair here, you returned 33 Bitcoin but they did not bother to return your deposit which is just s small fraction of 33 Bitcoin, even if they gave you 6 Bitcoin they should consider you as a loyal customer and give you back that small amount, well lesson learned to always use authentication to sites where you deposit coins.

Actually that is the most upsetting part since when he notice a problem on their site and return he didn't even get a reward but when he got a problem regarding on that issue then the casino didn't compensate even a little although it's not their obligation but as a loyal costumer maybe they should do a little things to uplift his spirit. But guess that casino is just care about their own good and not for their loyal gamblers

I think you did not read well his statement in the OP.

Quote from: Theraker on December 30, 2020, 10:47:06 PM

I actually returned 33 Bitcoin to them last May. Because I found a technique on their Roulette game that couldn’t lose. I told them early on. After I was up to 38 Bitcoin profit they took 32 Bitcoin back and gave me just over 6 Bitcoin as a bounty.

He got 6 btc as a bounty, and that's a huge amount now already, so there was already a trust on the site and OP was not really that upset since he is not accusing the site or anyone for his loss.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 03, 2021, 05:43:36 AM

Quote from: Theraker on December 30, 2020, 10:47:06 PM

I actually returned 33 Bitcoin to them last May. Because I found a technique on their Roulette game that couldn’t lose. I told them early on. After I was up to 38 Bitcoin profit they took 32 Bitcoin back and gave me just over 6 Bitcoin as a bounty. Yet when I’m basically robbed of 0.097BTC all the owner, Gabriel can say to me is, “damn all those scamers are really a cancer!” My 2FA is enabled now.

They are not being fair here, you returned 33 Bitcoin but they did not bother to return your deposit which is just s small fraction of 33 Bitcoin, even if they gave you 6 Bitcoin they should consider you as a loyal customer and give you back that small amount, well lesson learned to always use authentication to sites where you deposit coins.

Actually that is the most upsetting part since when he notice a problem on their site and return he didn't even get a reward but when he got a problem regarding on that issue then the casino didn't compensate even a little although it's not their obligation but as a loyal costumer maybe they should do a little things to uplift his spirit. But guess that casino is just care about their own good and not for their loyal gamblers

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Quote from: Theraker on December 30, 2020, 10:47:06 PM

I actually returned 33 Bitcoin to them last May. Because I found a technique on their Roulette game that couldn’t lose. I told them early on. After I was up to 38 Bitcoin profit they took 32 Bitcoin back and gave me just over 6 Bitcoin as a bounty. Yet when I’m basically robbed of 0.097BTC all the owner, Gabriel can say to me is, “damn all those scamers are really a cancer!” My 2FA is enabled now.

They are not being fair here, you returned 33 Bitcoin but they did not bother to return your deposit which is just s small fraction of 33 Bitcoin, even if they gave you 6 Bitcoin they should consider you as a loyal customer and give you back that small amount, well lesson learned to always use authentication to sites where you deposit coins.

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That's a very unfortunate incident you encountered. Though it was pure profit it still does matter as the amount was not small.
One mistake you did was not to enable 2fa but it's quite uncommon to see the deposit getting stolen right after the deposit was made.
Either it was someone who knew your password or it was an insider job.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 02, 2021, 06:03:42 PM

Not everyone is like that, I think there are only few people who are not securing their account as we all know the risk if our account is not secured with 2 layer security, we want to minimize the risk of our account of getting hack because we value what's inside of it, if only our bitcointalk account has 2FA, I would surely put a 2FA on it, but now I think it's alright since I can stake my address to prove the ownership of my account.

I could be wrong but I think it's the other way around there's a lot of people that still avoid 2fa when it's optional. I know some casinos eventually made it mandatory though once you withdraw you have to enable it.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on January 01, 2021, 10:19:52 PM

Gambling sites are Telling us right away upon account creation to make sure Securing our account by 2fa .

Not just the account creation they'll even remind you to activate it every time you log in.

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Quote from: Theraker on December 30, 2020, 10:47:06 PM

I deposited 0.097 BTC to Bitsler after I had won on another online casino. Typically I wouldn’t deposit such a large amount of Bitcoin, but since it was all pure profit I did. 9 minutes after depositing someone withdrew it. The owner of Bitsler told me simply, and I quote, “ damn all those scamers are really a cancer!” Gabriel is his name.
Support was helpful. They told me since I didn’t have 2FA enabled I was vulnerable. My question to them was why did I still have more than a Bitcoin in my wallet on the site from where My deposit to Bitsler came? I didn’t get an answer. In fact, I never enable 2FA. On any site. Yet once I deposited at the time what amounted to just under $2000 in Bitcoin it took all but 9 minutes for it to be stolen. What’s worse is I have a history of pure honesty with this casino. I actually returned 33 Bitcoin to them last May. Because I found a technique on their Roulette game that couldn’t lose. I told them early on. After I was up to 38 Bitcoin profit they took 32 Bitcoin back and gave me just over 6 Bitcoin as a bounty. Yet when I’m basically robbed of 0.097BTC all the owner, Gabriel can say to me is, “damn all those scamers are really a cancer!” My 2FA is enabled now.

Well, what a sad experienced dude. But by the way, I think you are one of the expert gambler isn't right?
Moreover, I was just curious about the technique in Roulette game can you tell us here the technique or you can pm me Grin

And third you've returned 33 Bitcoin, right? for what reason? or how come that you got 33BTC? at least this time you will become
more careful. Good day Wink

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on January 01, 2021, 10:19:52 PM

Gambling sites are Telling us right away upon account creation to make sure Securing our account by 2fa .

Seems like OP is too Lazy doing it ?

At least now Others will prioritize this action ,specially those gamblers that Loves exploring all gambling sites .

The first time, people tend not to care about their account because they play gambling using free coins that have been given to them by free from the site owner. Later on, they feel comfortable with the game, and they're staying at that site, so they decide to send some amount to their balance and start to continue playing. Many people forget to activate 2FA to take care of their account, and the account becomes vulnerable to hacking by the hacker. I think it is because he doesn't care or aware of the hacker that can steal his balance. It is an important lesson for us, and we need to prevent those happen to our account.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on January 01, 2021, 03:02:24 AM

I guess I have seen you in bitsler chat and you rained some XRP sometime ago and you are black diamond rank if I am not wrong.

If this is true then most likely this is how he got hacked. If it was a malware then why his funds on other casinos weren't stolen too!
Giving away coins and exposing his username on the chat box made him the main target for hackers. All they have to do is to brute force his password and hope he didn't activate 2FA which was the case, sadly.

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