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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 25, 2023, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: 348Judah on March 11, 2023, 09:30:05 AM

Some people like taking free predictions from others while some don't like it but prefer using their money to subscribe for the service, the fact that gamblers in most cases often believe and have more confidence in what cost them their money than what comes in very cheap, that's why you could also see some organizations getting overrated because of the reputation they have on ground and their services are not as cheap compared to others, yet gamblers subscribe for them because they they have that name they have built with their reputation.

Yes, some people believe that by paying they will get better results, even if it is more expensive it is safer for them to win, something that seems totally absurd to me, predictions can be given in many ways, but when a person gives them for free I lend them more attention because if the person wants to grow with it, they do things well and don't make mistakes, in a paid group where they happen, if the person makes a mistake, it doesn't matter, because it's something super noemla for them, for example in soccer it's a One of my favorite bets, and they are because I have played football all my life and I have followed it since I was little, I like to watch almost all the leagues, that helps a lot in a bet.

It's what the accuracy you are paying for in paid prediction groups/services. Those who's predictions who has a high accuracy usually charge more than the average ones which is justifiable enough. Though there are some free predictions that has a high accuracy rate if you watched them carefully, These people are trying to make themselves a name on betting predictions. These high accuracy predictions are hard to find because they are eventually charging people as soon as they got traffic in their bet predictions. There's no harm in free bet predictions especially if you are taking advantage of it like comparing your findings or your bet to those free bet prediction, You can use them as an extra validation on your bet.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on March 25, 2023, 10:35:03 AM

1. You either win - make profit on your initial bet.

What do you mean by 3 gamblers pick?
Are you sure you can win easily and then make a profit on the initial bet?
In my opinion, it is not that easy and getting a win or profit is what all gamblers want when betting, but nothing guarantees that gamblers can win every bet, even you yourself seem difficult to implement from what you say.
Being a gambler doesn't require a lot of choices about winning or winning or losing.
All you can do is keep betting and trying as many results as possible so luck decides.

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Quote from: 348Judah on March 11, 2023, 09:30:05 AM

Some people like taking free predictions from others while some don't like it but prefer using their money to subscribe for the service, the fact that gamblers in most cases often believe and have more confidence in what cost them their money than what comes in very cheap, that's why you could also see some organizations getting overrated because of the reputation they have on ground and their services are not as cheap compared to others, yet gamblers subscribe for them because they they have that name they have built with their reputation.

Yes, some people believe that by paying they will get better results, even if it is more expensive it is safer for them to win, something that seems totally absurd to me, predictions can be given in many ways, but when a person gives them for free I lend them more attention because if the person wants to grow with it, they do things well and don't make mistakes, in a paid group where they happen, if the person makes a mistake, it doesn't matter, because it's something super noemla for them, for example in soccer it's a One of my favorite bets, and they are because I have played football all my life and I have followed it since I was little, I like to watch almost all the leagues, that helps a lot in a bet.

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Quote from: NicNacCoin on March 25, 2023, 07:04:19 AM

A few days ago I placed a bet on the 2nd ODI match between Bangladesh vs Ireland, the match was in favor of Bangladesh @1.16 but unfortunately the Bangladesh series ended well but the Ireland series was abandoned due to rain. In this case my bet is abandoned for my Bangladesh and the betting site refunds my wagered dollars. In case I consider my bet a waste of time.
Although there have been many such matches in my life but in all cases refunds have been made but only a waste of time for that day.

Well, for me, i do not see this as a waste of time at all, betting results comes in three ways, and they are -
1. You either win - make profit on your initial bet.
2. You either loss - lose both capital and expected profit.
3. You either end up with an inconclusive game - here, you get refunded your capital, but expected profit is lost..

In this three ways, it is better to end up with either number 1 or number 3, in the case where winning is not possible, it is better to end up with an inconclusive game and get refunded your money than lose it in a Concluded game that ended in loss of your bet.

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A few days ago I placed a bet on the 2nd ODI match between Bangladesh vs Ireland, the match was in favor of Bangladesh @1.16 but unfortunately the Bangladesh series ended well but the Ireland series was abandoned due to rain. In this case my bet is abandoned for my Bangladesh and the betting site refunds my wagered dollars. In case I consider my bet a waste of time.
Although there have been many such matches in my life but in all cases refunds have been made but only a waste of time for that day.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 25, 2023, 05:29:31 AM

However, we must still try to play gambling without emotion so that we are not tempted by the casino and can get out of the casino at any time and whenever we want. Casinos can win from other people but casinos can't win too much from us because we always try to control ourselves.

You also have to try to be able to play without emotion so you won't think too much about previous defeats. And even though playing without emotion looks difficult, you should still try it for your own good.

Yeah I agree, playing with emotion makes the game less precise and way less efficient.
You have to be able to stay as distant and cold as possible so that you don't self-sabotage and don't make the wrong decisions at the wrong moment. Stopping in time and taking the time to think twice before putting money down is important.
In my experience, whether it's with bets, casinos or even trading, the real need for money and emotions makes them more inefficient. It may be silly to say it like this, but playing without really needing the potential payout has always allowed me to play and bet better, and to make more gains than when I was in a complicated situation.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 24, 2023, 02:02:23 AM

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

There's no way we can all win because that's not how gambling works. It is the casinos that will win and take all the biggest profits from the losing gamblers. We can only think that the offers from casinos make greedy gamblers continue to play without making clear boundaries when they have to stop gambling. And that's what will make their bets in vain because they can't control themselves when playing gambling. So if we can control ourselves, I think the bets we make are worth it because we value every money we use to bet without thinking about how to win. After all, winning from gambling is not easy.

Of course, when you lose, you want your money back and bet again and again, make mistakes and lose more money. I think that it is possible to play without emotions, but not many people can do it. That`s why the casino wins.

However, we must still try to play gambling without emotion so that we are not tempted by the casino and can get out of the casino at any time and whenever we want. Casinos can win from other people but casinos can't win too much from us because we always try to control ourselves.

You also have to try to be able to play without emotion so you won't think too much about previous defeats. And even though playing without emotion looks difficult, you should still try it for your own good.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 24, 2023, 08:36:09 AM

Quote from: mak013 on March 24, 2023, 02:02:23 AM

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

There's no way we can all win because that's not how gambling works. It is the casinos that will win and take all the biggest profits from the losing gamblers. We can only think that the offers from casinos make greedy gamblers continue to play without making clear boundaries when they have to stop gambling. And that's what will make their bets in vain because they can't control themselves when playing gambling. So if we can control ourselves, I think the bets we make are worth it because we value every money we use to bet without thinking about how to win. After all, winning from gambling is not easy.

Of course, when you lose, you want your money back and bet again and again, make mistakes and lose more money. I think that it is possible to play without emotions, but not many people can do it. That`s why the casino wins.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 24, 2023, 02:02:23 AM

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

Regardless of anything when gambling, I think there are only 2 conditions. Firstly, we won it just because we were given the win by the casino which is considered our luck and secondly it is a certain thing that the casino will win regardless of anything. No one will deny that the casino is something that gamblers cannot beat regardless of luck or whatever Grin

No one could really get out of the situation because one might say it was a seemingly certain rule in gambling.

The casino has lots of games, the part of them guarantee the casino profit. If the gamblers can win casino in sports betting(for example), the casino return their money in games their the gambler can`t predict anything.

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Quote from: klidex on March 24, 2023, 04:24:40 PM

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The fact that no bet is a waste makes gambling more interesting, this has given the gambler some form of motivation and zeal to continue with the bet even when the odds are against them.

-before anything else a gambler must settle with that fact, I am not against withdrawal at some point mostly if you playing for fun.

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Even a beginner can bet which is the favorite team which is not the favorite, besides looking at the betting odds it can also be seen which one should be the favorite, for example betting with odds of 2.00 or below is already called the favorite club, I think my younger brother can also bet on sports betting without having to be taught first as long as he understands sports, so why wait for other people's predictions if we can do it ourselves Cheesy

Yep, that's the point I was want to say.

If we only bet on the favorite team or fighter, we don't need to become a gambler because we don't need to care who's playing and how the sport's work. I can create my own thread and list all of my predictions where I predict the favorited team or fighter will win. I believe I will get around 70-80% of correct predictions, but if we calculate the amount I bet and the return I get, it's either small profit or big lose Cheesy

Then what makes it gambling is that your favourite team or your favourite fighter does not always win. What makes it gambling is when 1.38 odds refused to play and 14 odds play.
But a gambler who gambles based on their selection of favourite team or fighter would make a bad gambling. You need to check the form, the emotion and conditions of your favourite before you employ them in your betting slip.
Technical, I high level risk bet without research can be regarded as a waste.

This is where the strategy we are using to make bet comes in. We can't just blindly go to a betting shop and book games on a particular sport and bet on them without doing a significant research on the kind of team we are going for. This is where we do get it wrong.

We need to be scrupulous on the kind of game or sport we are betting on before we book them. Those gamblers that do make consistent profits from the market knows what they are doing that is why we do see them making a lots of money for gambling and we arewi still keep complaining on why we don't make profits because of our unscrupulous attempt.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on March 24, 2023, 02:58:50 PM

I believe the OP's point is that placing bets on multiple sports and games can result in an overall win if you have a good strategy and follow that sport. This is the topic he intends to discuss with us. Your point seems to be unrelated with the topic as it does not talk about the actual topic of the OP's posted. If you did not read the post correctly, you may have misunderstood its purpose, which is not about where the money goes when placing a bet but the idea of him sharing multiples bets that will lead to a profit and there will be no bet wasted if he managed to get a win from a total of 4 or 5 bets

The right answer, and if we all really understand, there really aren't any wasted bets as long as we have expertise in predictions and have the ability to research every match, of course there won't be wasted bets.
Many of us are always lucky to get big wins at sports betting because they want to try to make sure profits.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 23, 2023, 05:52:54 PM

Absolutely correct and we are all know that every single bet the outcome are opposite and if we won then other gamblers lose as well so we must accept the fact that not all the time we will win. And I think Theres no waste bet because the reason of if we loss then there are other gambler benefits our money. But as a gambler we need do know our limitations we must gamble for fun and not for making money in order to avoid addiction.

like when you bet on roulette. Let's say you and 5 other people bet on number 1 with a total bet of $1000 and 6 other people bet on number 2 with a total bet of $2000. If one of the people who bet on number 1 is lucky, of course you will also be lucky and those who choose number 2 will lose and vice versa if the person who bets on number 2 wins, you will definitely lose.

betting for fun is indeed true. because in that situation your mind and heart are in a calm phase and you place a bet that will be right with the strategy you are doing.
it's different when betting to chase profits it will only make emotions when you get a loss and usually will chase the loss.

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I believe the OP's point is that placing bets on multiple sports and games can result in an overall win if you have a good strategy and follow that sport. This is the topic he intends to discuss with us. Your point seems to be unrelated with the topic as it does not talk about the actual topic of the OP's posted. If you did not read the post correctly, you may have misunderstood its purpose, which is not about where the money goes when placing a bet but the idea of him sharing multiples bets that will lead to a profit and there will be no bet wasted if he managed to get a win from a total of 4 or 5 bets

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We win some and we lose some that is the way gambling works and if you are placing bets no matter what the outcome will be kts not a waste and one will benefit from it greatly because even when you lose at least you will gain experience.

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I think that given your knowledge, you can also expand your comments to certain threads, for example Liga Argentina https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61665927

I entered others, imagine that each one of us takes the idea of opening a thread for our personal preaching, it is possible but the ideal is to be active in the threads that exist. Don't forget the one from Argentina.

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Quote from: Reatim on March 23, 2023, 09:42:51 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on March 23, 2023, 03:38:40 PM

No matter what the outcome of the bet is someone must win, so while you are at loss the other man on the other side is winning and keeping up with all the disadvantages, gambling outcome should be taken as a risk and luck. And a double edges sword wins and lose.

but it depend on what game are you playing because if it is about luck base game like for example roulette? you are not playing against other but solely against the gambling site.
but what op means here is that no bet are wasted because even if you lose the money at least you did not miss the fun and that is what we must consider as gambler mate.
remember that we will always lose but at least we will win from fun things inside the game.

Acknowledging the fun is a good quality of an advanced gambler, most players focus mainly on loss or gain that's why they don't enjoy the fun in gambling. When you ask people leaving the gambling house if they enjoyed the game they'll reply no, I lost! such players are considered as level 1 gamblers because they see gambling as a way to make quick money. The moment players begin to view gambling as a fun activity, this thread would be marked correct by all responders. Moreover, competing with the house and expecting to win all stakes isn't possible. Every game or hit we make on a machine contributes to the outcome of our games; win or lose. If the house wants a player to lose out all their stakes it'll easily drive away the player from the casino, so they have programmed the casino in such a way that we win as we lose money. Therefore enjoying the game, wouldn't hurt our feelings, which will help to enhance the self consciousness of the player to make better decision and study the machine too.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 24, 2023, 02:02:23 AM

Quote from: Negotiation on March 23, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

Regardless of anything when gambling, I think there are only 2 conditions. Firstly, we won it just because we were given the win by the casino which is considered our luck and secondly it is a certain thing that the casino will win regardless of anything. No one will deny that the casino is something that gamblers cannot beat regardless of luck or whatever Grin

No one could really get out of the situation because one might say it was a seemingly certain rule in gambling.

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If we talk about sports gambling then we should have knowledge of the past history of players or the team we are betting upon and what are the odds being offered at the time of wager.If you have idea that how they have performed in recent matches or know their capabilities and playing style you can bet accordingly but if you are wagering on pure speculation then it will not work best for you.Rest the luck always needs to favour you in gambling.

Without research, you won't know how to choose the right team, which will only defeat you. And if you repeat the same thing, you will lose many chances to win the match, even if it is the easiest match. Analyzing every match of a player or team is very useful for us because we can see how they are performing and know if they are the right team or player for us to choose. And after finishing analyzing that, we can choose a team with a higher chance of winning than the opposing team.

But there are still instances that we will lose no matter how much preparation we are doing. Have you seen the thread here last time about the guy who lose a million dollar bet? That guy must be too confident about his ability. He was almost correct if the opposing team didn't get lucky to make an epic comeback. Then there are those newbies who just bet randomly and still manages to win the game.

This only shows that luck still plays a big role even on a game of skills like sports betting. In gambling, losing is also normal but it shouldn't discourage us to not try again the next time because I am sure that there will be a time that we will win.

Is a question of gettin a lesson from the bet. You are right, even the best players, even poker professionals are always at the risk of loosing and that happens many times in fact, but it is about learning and about maximising your chances of success and on that sense, no bet is lost but only if you understand and analyse if your betting process and style need to change.

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Quote from: kingvirtus09 on March 23, 2023, 02:27:41 AM

We can't do anything about that aspect of gambling, it's just that the house edge always wins and most of the losers are gamblers.
I don't think I've ever seen that the house edge always loses, is there something in our history? It doesn't seem like there is anything yet, right?

I have often said and discussed this matter.
Whereas in reality, in the gambling industry, the house edge is the main winner and if there are gamblers who manage to win, beating the house edge, it is only because of luck that it is impossible to get it often.
What's more, many gamblers are betting, so if 2 or 3 gamblers win, the house edge can still profit from other gamblers who experience losses. That's why I say that the house edge is the real winner.
There has never been a history of the house edge losing to gamblers to actually suffer big losses, I've never heard of something like this happening.

Not in all cases will the house edge be the winner some time the gambler have the luck to win over the house sometimes but what is not possible is if he will win continuously since the house is designed to be an edge over the player.

- for the fact that the house have always been the winner of the gambler is wise enough to cut off from playing and chasing more wins whenever there is a winning.

Victory over the house edge can only be obtained by gamblers due to luck and not every time gamblers can have luck.
Even those who have long experience in gambling still rely on luck to be able to beat the house edge, so as I said before that no gambler can truly beat the house edge.
So it's just nonsense when there are gamblers who confess and tell their experiences of being able to beat the house edge in a row.
Yes and what you are saying has an important point, namely to always have limits and good self-control and finances so as not to lose more money by losing to the house edge.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 24, 2023, 02:02:23 AM

Quote from: Negotiation on March 23, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

There's no way we can all win because that's not how gambling works. It is the casinos that will win and take all the biggest profits from the losing gamblers. We can only think that the offers from casinos make greedy gamblers continue to play without making clear boundaries when they have to stop gambling. And that's what will make their bets in vain because they can't control themselves when playing gambling. So if we can control ourselves, I think the bets we make are worth it because we value every money we use to bet without thinking about how to win. After all, winning from gambling is not easy.

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