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Quote from: Solosanz on March 24, 2023, 12:55:38 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on March 23, 2023, 12:54:16 AM

Even a beginner can bet which is the favorite team which is not the favorite, besides looking at the betting odds it can also be seen which one should be the favorite, for example betting with odds of 2.00 or below is already called the favorite club, I think my younger brother can also bet on sports betting without having to be taught first as long as he understands sports, so why wait for other people's predictions if we can do it ourselves Cheesy

Yep, that's the point I was want to say.

If we only bet on the favorite team or fighter, we don't need to become a gambler because we don't need to care who's playing and how the sport's work. I can create my own thread and list all of my predictions where I predict the favorited team or fighter will win. I believe I will get around 70-80% of correct predictions, but if we calculate the amount I bet and the return I get, it's either small profit or big lose Cheesy

Then what makes it gambling is that your favourite team or your favourite fighter does not always win. What makes it gambling is when 1.38 odds refused to play and 14 odds play.
But a gambler who gambles based on their selection of favourite team or fighter would make a bad gambling. You need to check the form, the emotion and conditions of your favourite before you employ them in your betting slip.
Technical, I high level risk bet without research can be regarded as a waste.

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Quote from: Negotiation on March 23, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

I want to agree with you. But if we all win - the casino - lose. And if the casino lose they close - no one will work at a loss. But i don`t hear that casino closing due to gamblers winning.
The same time we can see the thread here, how the gambler lost $1.4million with the odd less than 1.01.
I think that it is possible to win the casino, but you must have a strategy, money management and think about gambling like about job - no emotions, only hard work.

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Quote from: piebeyb on March 23, 2023, 12:54:16 AM

Even a beginner can bet which is the favorite team which is not the favorite, besides looking at the betting odds it can also be seen which one should be the favorite, for example betting with odds of 2.00 or below is already called the favorite club, I think my younger brother can also bet on sports betting without having to be taught first as long as he understands sports, so why wait for other people's predictions if we can do it ourselves Cheesy

Yep, that's the point I was want to say.

If we only bet on the favorite team or fighter, we don't need to become a gambler because we don't need to care who's playing and how the sport's work. I can create my own thread and list all of my predictions where I predict the favorited team or fighter will win. I believe I will get around 70-80% of correct predictions, but if we calculate the amount I bet and the return I get, it's either small profit or big lose Cheesy

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But there are still instances that we will lose no matter how much preparation we are doing. Have you seen the thread here last time about the guy who lose a million dollar bet? That guy must be too confident about his ability. He was almost correct if the opposing team didn't get lucky to make an epic comeback. Then there are those newbies who just bet randomly and still manages to win the game.

This only shows that luck still plays a big role even on a game of skills like sports betting. In gambling, losing is also normal but it shouldn't discourage us to not try again the next time because I am sure that there will be a time that we will win.

If we lose, good luck is not with us and we must admit it, instead of continuing to bet on other sports betting because we want to recover from losses.

Yes, I've seen that thread but I think it will be difficult for us if we are too confident in our abilities because we can never always win.

In gambling, losing is something we are sure to get, but it will be difficult for us to win. So we should know ourselves and limit gambling to avoid big losses. Maybe we can try another bet another day.

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Quote from: RILWAN on March 23, 2023, 03:38:40 PM

No matter what the outcome of the bet is someone must win, so while you are at loss the other man on the other side is winning and keeping up with all the disadvantages, gambling outcome should be taken as a risk and luck. And a double edges sword wins and lose.

but it depend on what game are you playing because if it is about luck base game like for example roulette? you are not playing against other but solely against the gambling site.
but what op means here is that no bet are wasted because even if you lose the money at least you did not miss the fun and that is what we must consider as gambler mate.
remember that we will always lose but at least we will win from fun things inside the game.

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Quote from: RILWAN on March 23, 2023, 03:38:40 PM

No matter what the outcome of the bet is someone must win, so while you are at loss the other man on the other side is winning and keeping up with all the disadvantages, gambling outcome should be taken as a risk and luck. And a double edges sword wins and lose.

Absolutely correct and we are all know that every single bet the outcome are opposite and if we won then other gamblers lose as well so we must accept the fact that not all the time we will win. And I think Theres no waste bet because the reason of if we loss then there are other gambler benefits our money. But as a gambler we need do know our limitations we must gamble for fun and not for making money in order to avoid addiction.

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No matter what the outcome of the bet is someone must win, so while you are at loss the other man on the other side is winning and keeping up with all the disadvantages, gambling outcome should be taken as a risk and luck. And a double edges sword wins and lose.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on March 23, 2023, 03:18:02 PM

This only shows that luck still plays a big role even on a game of skills like sports betting. In gambling, losing is also normal but it shouldn't discourage us to not try again the next time because I am sure that there will be a time that we will win.

Absolutely! Losing is normal in gambling, and we should accept it as part of the experience. But what's important is that we learn from our mistakes and keep trying until we achieve our goals. As they say, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." There will be a time that we will win, and it's important to keep that in mind. In the end, luck may still play a role, but with the right strategy, preparation, and mindset, we can increase our chances of success and minimize our losses.

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If we talk about sports gambling then we should have knowledge of the past history of players or the team we are betting upon and what are the odds being offered at the time of wager.If you have idea that how they have performed in recent matches or know their capabilities and playing style you can bet accordingly but if you are wagering on pure speculation then it will not work best for you.Rest the luck always needs to favour you in gambling.

Without research, you won't know how to choose the right team, which will only defeat you. And if you repeat the same thing, you will lose many chances to win the match, even if it is the easiest match. Analyzing every match of a player or team is very useful for us because we can see how they are performing and know if they are the right team or player for us to choose. And after finishing analyzing that, we can choose a team with a higher chance of winning than the opposing team.

But there are still instances that we will lose no matter how much preparation we are doing. Have you seen the thread here last time about the guy who lose a million dollar bet? That guy must be too confident about his ability. He was almost correct if the opposing team didn't get lucky to make an epic comeback. Then there are those newbies who just bet randomly and still manages to win the game.

This only shows that luck still plays a big role even on a game of skills like sports betting. In gambling, losing is also normal but it shouldn't discourage us to not try again the next time because I am sure that there will be a time that we will win.

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Gambling gives two kinds of pleasure: first, more when you win money, and less when you play for fun and lose.
The pleasure of both is different and as someone who has tasted both, it is actually a bad addiction. One understands some things while experiencing some things here. Life is actually short enough to increase or decrease the money you earn in 90 minutes. So isn't everything a game?
I like to take risks in life. I have had some gains and losses thanks to this. You cannot experience pleasure and excitement without taking risks. Sometimes you have to take risks and I love taking risks when I gamble.

Most of us are playing for fun as we are not professionals that will strike big deals with companies and take risks with our betting amount and try our luck.When we win the feeling is at another level because we have gained profits so we face many different scenarios while gambling but most importantly we should not become addicted towards it I would say to all.

the scenario of being addicted is somebody's dream because if not they would try to learn gambling first but this is not what they do, instead they choose to follow their desire and their willingness to become what they are now.
it is true that many of us only wanted to have fun in gambling but always remember that there are also many of us that dreams to become a luckiest man on earth and that is to win a jackpot and to be a millionaire.
never be a hypocrite to deny this fact .

I don't play enough to be considered addicted. I can say that sometimes I make coupons for pleasure and sometimes seriously. After all, I know that there is both winning and losing in this business, so I don't even follow the coupon after I make the coupon.
Of course, I do not neglect to spare time for my loved ones. I spend a maximum of 30 minutes while betting, whether it is a pleasure or a serious coupon, it does not exceed this time. Because I know how to adjust my risk and the amount I can lose and after doing this, I don't get upset even if I lose. Everything gives experience and this is more important than money.

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Quote from: Negotiation on March 23, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

But have you forgotten something that gambling only depends on luck and that is real.
Like when you research casinos that give high or low payback slot games it's just speculation to me.
In fact, in slot games at one of the casinos here, which has a low return, when the gambler is lucky, he gets a big win.
And at high returns but if the gambler is unlucky, everything will be wasted like just throwing money away with no return.
But it's different from sports betting, even though gambling depends on luck but on sports betting if you use the right research and strategy, it will be far more profitable than slot games.

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Quote from: kingvirtus09 on March 23, 2023, 02:27:41 AM

We can't do anything about that aspect of gambling, it's just that the house edge always wins and most of the losers are gamblers.
I don't think I've ever seen that the house edge always loses, is there something in our history? It doesn't seem like there is anything yet, right?

When it's like that, you can say that gamblers will often feel defeat compared to wins, right? That is why most gamblers who cannot control themselves fall into a black hole in their finances. As I said before, our percentage of winning is not greater than losing. Luck is what will make us win big, but the question is are we that lucky to be able to win every time we play? I don't think so, and I think most people do the same. They won today and for some time they have been on a losing streak.

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Quote from: Negotiation on March 23, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

You have my suppirt. Ain't no lie that casino sites can be sketchy, but peep this: know the odds, and you'll be on fire. Payout ratios ain't just the key to the slot machine kingdom, but You're supported. Gaming sites are dodgy, but know the odds and you'll be on fire. Slot machine payout rates are not everything. Paylines, extras, and dangerous games exist.

I disagree with your incentive program view. Casinos give refunds to make us feel better, but it's a trap to keep us going back. Beware reward programs that hide losses. They have deceptive bet conditions. Follow your betting plan.

Thus, online gaming is a jungle, but knowledge is power. You'll be alright if you understand the chances and factors.

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In my opinion, all bets are not wasted these usually depend on the bets of the casino sites the chances of winning here are very high if you bet correctly. Casino high or low payout ratio slots with higher payout ratios offer more frequent and regular wins conversely, slots with lower payout ratios have lower winning odds. In casinos the sites should be thoroughly researched before joining. Most casinos will pretend to protect you from losses by offering loyalty programs you can enroll in a cashback program where you can earn points for every lost bet.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 23, 2023, 03:47:18 AM

Quote from: kingvirtus09 on March 23, 2023, 02:27:41 AM

We can't do anything about that aspect of gambling, it's just that the house edge always wins and most of the losers are gamblers.
I don't think I've ever seen that the house edge always loses, is there something in our history? It doesn't seem like there is anything yet, right?

I have often said and discussed this matter.
Whereas in reality, in the gambling industry, house edge is the main winner and if there are gamblers who manage to win, beating house edge, it is only because of luck that it is impossible to get it often.
What's more, many gamblers are betting, so if 2 or 3 gamblers win, the house edge can still profit from other gamblers who experience losses. That's why I say that the house edge is the real winner.
There has never been a history of the house edge losing to gamblers to actually suffer big losses, I've never heard of something like this happening.

Thats how does the gambling casino earn with the tons of player spending and hoping that they can win a huge amount of money also take another note that this is not always in favour with the gambling house but also with the players even though its just a small percentage of the players have good luck of winning still ideal and capable to win profit win a huge amount of multiplier by this people getting more encouraged to play because they know that they can win too like of an easy advertisement with the wisdom of mouth. Gambling makes test your luck if you have the chance to win or not.

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Some bets were just a waste of time because you will discover a bet slip with several matches staked and at the end, only one game will disqualify them all, why has this always been the case of this kind of bets, isn't it a waste of time, to me i expect the gambler to split the game into two and play on different bets and doubles the stakes on each, this should be a kind of technique to tackle against a single game disqualifying match to the entire bet made, another alternative to his is by cashing out before the match end.

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Good day forum members, it has been too long since I come to this forum (online), and the reasons are because of my activity at work I can't meet up with time and I can't even drop a predicted match because I don't want anybody to get a hug loss on my predicted matches.
But by the free time I have today, I will try as much as possible to drop at least more thank 3 odds prediction.

Here I decided to calculate the statistics of your published bets on football matches and summing up 16 matches and it turns out 75% of winning predictions 12 wins vs 4 lost in total, if someone bet according to your forecasts, for example, $100 for each game, then the net gain would be $1,452 just counted the possible

I calculated and got that his all profit would be only $1852. And he need 1600$ for bets. So the OP can get $252 profit or 15.75% As for me - it is not bad result, at least we can get profit. I can`t say that lots of predictors can give us the same result with the OP. So we see the predictor who`s results we can trust. I don`t sure that i`ll use his tips but at least i`l look at them before betting day.

Yes, you are right, my mistake is of course that I did not deduct the amount of the bets themselves.

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Quote from: Daltonik on March 23, 2023, 05:22:42 AM

I meant if you just make single bets on each individual match and yes, you lost in the first one, but if you continued to bet the same fixed amount, then as a result you would simply win, in this case, multibets are not considered.

Exactly the point mate, we are on the same page this prediction is not for players that want to bet on multiple options, those are the ones that want to stake a small amount to win big since their accumulated odds.

-I have been following an odds prediction by one casino telegram group and to a large extent I have not won any bet from their predictions because I always bet in all the bets without changing or removing any selection.

-This have not really worked well for me, and as it is I still prefer to bet on my own predictions.

I do not understand how people can still trust random casino telegram prediction groups. They never have any real predictions worth betting on, and if you were to ask them how and where they did their research and what their predictions are based off of, you just get ignored or kicked out of the telegram group.

That makes sense though, no charlatans want logical thinkers in their community of sheep. Grin

Doing your own research and predicting your own bet outcomes is really the best way to bet. There is absolutely never a good reason for blindly trusting the predictions of other, especially if they somehow profit from gathering huge communities (which they obviously do).

I would like to clarify about the forecasts and groups, I am not a member of any of them, I just made some statistics on the betting forecasts that OP posted and as you can see it turned out to be quite effective, whether to use these forecasts or not is up to everyone to decide for themselves.

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Quote from: uche6215 on March 22, 2023, 04:33:02 AM

Good day forum members, it has been too long since I come to this forum (online), and the reasons are because of my activity at work I can't meet up with time and I can't even drop a predicted match because I don't want anybody to get a hug loss on my predicted matches.
But by the free time I have today, I will try as much as possible to drop at least more thank 3 odds prediction.

Here I decided to calculate the statistics of your published bets on football matches and summing up 16 matches and it turns out 75% of winning predictions 12 wins vs 4 lost in total, if someone bet according to your forecasts, for example, $100 for each game, then the net gain would be $1,452 just counted the possible

I calculated and got that his all profit would be only $1852. And he need 1600$ for bets. So the OP can get $252 profit or 15.75% As for me - it is not bad result, at least we can get profit. I can`t say that lots of predictors can give us the same result with the OP. So we see the predictor who`s results we can trust. I don`t sure that i`ll use his tips but at least i`l look at them before betting day.

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Quote from: worle1bm on March 23, 2023, 02:02:17 AM

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So basically it's all about speculation and our knowledge to look for the smallest odds in each of our bets, not just betting for instant wins without knowing what object we are betting on, and above all that luck is on our side.

If we talk about sports gambling then we should have knowledge of the past history of players or the team we are betting upon and what are the odds being offered at the time of wager.If you have idea that how they have performed in recent matches or know their capabilities and playing style you can bet accordingly but if you are wagering on pure speculation then it will not work best for you.Rest the luck always needs to favour you in gambling.

Without research, you won't know how to choose the right team, which will only defeat you. And if you repeat the same thing, you will lose many chances to win the match, even if it is the easiest match. Analyzing every match of a player or team is very useful for us because we can see how they are performing and know if they are the right team or player for us to choose. And after finishing analyzing that, we can choose a team with a higher chance of winning than the opposing team.

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