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Quote from: giszmo on August 16, 2011, 05:02:16 PM

gah, guys!

this is not only about if and how could i get hands on bitcoin now but also generally about how will it ever be successful in iran and cuba where there would definitely be a need for bitcoin.

and no, the bitcoin download is not blocked by the iranians but by sourceforge and google code. they point me to these documents:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sitelegal/wiki/Terms_of_Use#ProhibitedPersons
... oh, actually the desktop client is on github which is accessible but due to limited bandwidth there is little point in getting it up and running for me now anyway ...

and no, it has nothing to do with sha256 as all of sourceforge and google code is blocked here. sorry but that is a reason for me to use other hosters. too general embargoes are always evil.

The best and smartest thing for everyone to do is to make noise about thei monstruous crime of "trade sanctions" and influencing the US and EU policy. Millions of innocent people are hurt, some literally killed, by sanctions. No medications, no parts for trucks, elevators, airplanes, no medical equipment, no scientific journals. On top of that, societies are pushed into criminal spiral because all the goods have to smugled in. Speaking about tens of thousands of children who died in Iraq as a direct consequence of US trade sanctions, Madeleine Albright stated, as a US official: "we think the price was worth it".
So, the best we can do is to stop this nonsense. In the meantime, software and blockchain can be brought in on your laptops, and copies can be distributed p2p on DVDs at news stands, video-clubs, and such.

niko

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Quote from: Nesetalis on August 16, 2011, 09:29:53 PM

source forge blocks countries such as iran out of their own sense of right and wrong. not due to the US laws.

Where did you get this "information"?

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Quote from: WorldOfBitcoin on October 10, 2012, 02:05:40 PM

Blockchain is what 3gig? We got a couple years lol. Then its 2 dvd's. Doesnt take fast internet to sent transactions. The real question is who the hell in the bitcoin community wants iranian money lol. If the got up and goin who would sell to them.

Also they got smartphones in iran right? Just need an Iranian verson of blockchain.info's mywallet on Irans "intranet"

The "who wants their money" argument should be answered with "others in the country". If you were wondering, how bitcoins get to Iran in the first place, check out "remittances". If relatives abroad can send in BTC and locals actually pay a mark-up in local money to get these, these receivers actually get a negative fee for sending money in compared to a very high positive fee that they have to pay now.

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Blockchain is what 3gig? We got a couple years lol. Then its 2 dvd's. Doesnt take fast internet to sent transactions. The real question is who the hell in the bitcoin community wants iranian money lol. If the got up and goin who would sell to them.

Also they got smartphones in iran right? Just need an Iranian verson of blockchain.info's mywallet on Irans "intranet"

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Quote from: WorldOfBitcoin on October 10, 2012, 01:35:10 AM

For a mass deployment wouldn't DVD's with client and the most recent blockchain possible be the best way? I guarantee you there is underground software/movie/Piracy networks throughout the country.

Lol

Underground

In Iran, copyright does not apply, so shops sell packs of 10 or 20 DVDs with all the latest Microsoft software for very fair prices. Not on a carpet in the street but in real shops and people told me, this is actually perfectly legal.

Of course, these packs need to be updated every once in a while and I'm sure there is kind of a standard collection of programs on these DVDs. Bitcoin should get interest by those making these collections. Sad thing is that the blockchain alone will be a full DVD soon and the internet speed of most Iranians that actually have internet is not mind boggling.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on August 16, 2011, 07:57:37 PM

Well, if sourceforge is such a puppet in the U.S. government hands, i say take the client out of there, because it doesn't seem the right place to be hosting it.

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For a mass deployment wouldn't DVD's with client and the most recent blockchain possible be the best way? I guarantee you there is underground software/movie/Piracy networks throughout the country.

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Considering the economic unrest in Iran last week (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/03/riots-break-out-in-iran-as-currency-loses-40-of-its-value-in-a-week/), I think the country is just about ready for something like Bitcoin to help stabilize their economy.

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Incidentally, there was a crowdsource effort to get Farsi translations for MultiBit. That effort succeeded so the next release of MutliBit will be more useful for Persians.

- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1247525

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Quote from: ThiagoCMC on August 18, 2011, 11:41:11 PM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on August 16, 2011, 07:57:37 PM

Well, if sourceforge is such a puppet in the U.S. government hands, i say take the client out of there, because it doesn't seem the right place to be hosting it.

AGREE!

I concur with this recommendation, but where would the file be safely hosted? I suppose if a trusted up-loader made a torrent but new folks would need to know who that trusted creator was. I suppose the torrent link would be hosted on bitcoin.orgs site and that would be good enough to trust.

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I'd rather be a political prisoner in Iran knowing my country can get me out sooner or later than disappear in some CIA prison in Pakistan for years without anybody knowing if I were still alive. Do you really believe USA to be the country of freedom?

Driving by the nuclear facilities in Natanz was a bit weird. I almost accidentally took a photo of one of those AA-guns that are all around it. My driver who himself worked at the facility for a short time got into trouble with an italien tourist who took pictures but all that had happened was that they spent 4h at the police and the guy never got back his camera.
Iranians are not allowed to host foreigners but I slept 15 nights at 5 different private places. Just better not stay at a single woman's house, but I also met hosts that hosted single women.

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Quote from: Xenland on August 24, 2011, 01:45:26 PM

Go you! I however admire your drive to go to other countries, I always feel like I will be arrested for stupid things that I'm normally use to being legal in USA. Thats why I don't travel often.

What a coincidence, that's why I don't go to USA, they say it's too strict (compared to Europe & Middle East).

But seriously, foreigners are favoured in the Middle East, you really need to do something very absurd to get in trouble. Just don't get mangled in local affairs too much, which is not easy in itself for a tourist anyway.

You maybe right actually i may have gotten use to memorizing laws to not get in trouble in usa that i just assume its like that everywhere else.

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Quote from: Xenland on August 24, 2011, 01:45:26 PM

Go you! I however admire your drive to go to other countries, I always feel like I will be arrested for stupid things that I'm normally use to being legal in USA. Thats why I don't travel often.

What a coincidence, that's why I don't go to USA, they say it's too strict (compared to Europe & Middle East).

But seriously, foreigners are favoured in the Middle East, you really need to do something very absurd to get in trouble. Just don't get mangled in local affairs too much, which is not easy in itself for a tourist anyway.

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Quote from: giszmo on August 24, 2011, 09:23:09 AM

Hi guys,

back from Iran I'm happy my thread got some attention and yes, I hope the bitcoin project gets more aware of how accessible it is around the world.

In Iran people use proxies to see the internet without censorship. I will try to find an Iranian proxy so I see the internet through their eyes and get more aware of what websites not to use to stay visible for the people there.

Else: Go visit Iran! I never experienced more hospitality. Maybe 2% do speak some English but I travelled via couchsurfing.org and so I had great contacts - and now friends in all the cities I've been to. Worst thing that happened were people charging me twice the regular price.

Go you! I however admire your drive to go to other countries, I always feel like I will be arrested for stupid things that I'm normally use to being legal in USA. Thats why I don't travel often.

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Glad you had a good trip. What country were you coming from?

For now Iranian users could use an online wallet. I know its not a great option but for receiving/sending small payments it would work.

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Hi guys,

back from Iran I'm happy my thread got some attention and yes, I hope the bitcoin project gets more aware of how accessible it is around the world.

In Iran people use proxies to see the internet without censorship. I will try to find an Iranian proxy so I see the internet through their eyes and get more aware of what websites not to use to stay visible for the people there.

Else: Go visit Iran! I never experienced more hospitality. Maybe 2% do speak some English but I travelled via couchsurfing.org and so I had great contacts - and now friends in all the cities I've been to. Worst thing that happened were people charging me twice the regular price.

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the relevant threads would be these two
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pms-and-tor-dear-mods-is-it-possible-to-whitelist-me-for-tor-use-17762
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-guess-this-is-goodbye-30367
basically abused nodes end up banned temoprarily however tor itsefl it not banned in it's entirety

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Quote from: deslok on August 20, 2011, 10:04:43 AM

Quote from: jackjack on August 19, 2011, 09:03:57 AM

The forum blocks Tor exit nodes

At least it was doing this a month ago

actually they were blocking abusive members via ip which was resulting in the tor nodes being blocked not specifically going after tor

That's not what I was told, but I never checked myself so you should be right

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Quote from: jackjack on August 19, 2011, 09:03:57 AM

The forum blocks Tor exit nodes

At least it was doing this a month ago

actually they were blocking abusive members via ip which was resulting in the tor nodes being blocked not specifically going after tor

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Also if there is a need, I would be happy to host binaries. Sha and md5 checksums should ensure integrity of the files and there is https throughout at https://bitcoin.org.uk

If you do, I will gladly add them to the list in the thread in my signature

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