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I agree, I've got high school classmates that were geniuses and then I don't know what they're doing right now. But I have seen some of them that didn't do good during college because they don't have money and they failed to avail scholarships. From that point, those failed classmates of mine have managed to come back because of that experience. While those geniuses that have afford to graduate and managed to be successful academically were top runners and achievers and got their employment. And those that didn't reached to college due to their unfortunate situation managed to learn the real world and life and helped them to achieved financial success through their hustles.

Well, people still believe that Academic success is a necessity if you want to get a job as a career as no company will hire you if you do not have a good academic record. This is just one side of the picture, where academic success is absolutely necessary.

On the other hand, if you need to have financial freedom, then you should start your own business, and be your own boss, and in this case, even a moderate academic success can be fair enough. Though knowledge (academic) is always good, you do not need to pressure yourself that if you fail in your academic career, you will fail in your financial life. If you are a businessman, you will know that success in business does not need success in the academic stage of your life.
I think it's fine to start with academic when you're a freshy. That's normal for most companies as they don't have a background of how to work and what fields they have been in before. The academic achievements that they have is like the basis on how hard working they are as the school works are also tough to have with and having that principle of being responsible. But that doesn't really define someone's success and as we grow older, we're seeing the other side of success that most people don't see when they're younger. What we can do is to tell the younger ones that just do good in what they do and that will define themselves when they grow older whether it's from academe or financial success.
As you grow older and you do seem that you are doing something which it isnt really that making you progressive or something that could really have that life with having a good financial status then this is where
you would really be starting to think that you should really step up your game. Its true that when we are still young then we wont really be that minding much about those future things and it turns out that
when time passes by then this is the moment that you would really be making out some realizations that you should have done something when you are still young. There's no way that we could be
able to turn back the time and its really just that normal that we should really be that attentive on whatever changes that we do really need to come up with.

Academic success doesnt automatically means that you would really be successful in life. Yes, its not everything but it is really that something more better compared into those
people who arent. You would really be having the advantage among others, further success will really be mattering on how you would work hard for it or on able to achieve
it, you wont progress if you wont really be making risks or trying to move or risks out something.
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I agree, I've got high school classmates that were geniuses and then I don't know what they're doing right now. But I have seen some of them that didn't do good during college because they don't have money and they failed to avail scholarships. From that point, those failed classmates of mine have managed to come back because of that experience. While those geniuses that have afford to graduate and managed to be successful academically were top runners and achievers and got their employment. And those that didn't reached to college due to their unfortunate situation managed to learn the real world and life and helped them to achieved financial success through their hustles.

Well, people still believe that Academic success is a necessity if you want to get a job as a career as no company will hire you if you do not have a good academic record. This is just one side of the picture, where academic success is absolutely necessary.

On the other hand, if you need to have financial freedom, then you should start your own business, and be your own boss, and in this case, even a moderate academic success can be fair enough. Though knowledge (academic) is always good, you do not need to pressure yourself that if you fail in your academic career, you will fail in your financial life. If you are a businessman, you will know that success in business does not need success in the academic stage of your life.
I think it's fine to start with academic when you're a freshy. That's normal for most companies as they don't have a background of how to work and what fields they have been in before. The academic achievements that they have is like the basis on how hard working they are as the school works are also tough to have with and having that principle of being responsible. But that doesn't really define someone's success and as we grow older, we're seeing the other side of success that most people don't see when they're younger. What we can do is to tell the younger ones that just do good in what they do and that will define themselves when they grow older whether it's from academe or financial success.
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I agree, I've got high school classmates that were geniuses and then I don't know what they're doing right now. But I have seen some of them that didn't do good during college because they don't have money and they failed to avail scholarships. From that point, those failed classmates of mine have managed to come back because of that experience. While those geniuses that have afford to graduate and managed to be successful academically were top runners and achievers and got their employment. And those that didn't reached to college due to their unfortunate situation managed to learn the real world and life and helped them to achieved financial success through their hustles.

Well, people still believe that Academic success is a necessity if you want to get a job as a career as no company will hire you if you do not have a good academic record. This is just one side of the picture, where academic success is absolutely necessary.

On the other hand, if you need to have financial freedom, then you should start your own business, and be your own boss, and in this case, even a moderate academic success can be fair enough. Though knowledge (academic) is always good, you do not need to pressure yourself that if you fail in your academic career, you will fail in your financial life. If you are a businessman, you will know that success in business does not need success in the academic stage of your life.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

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Only a few among those who have the guts, talent, wisdom, and knowledge to venture into uncharted territories are successful.  There are thousands of businesses that are being established every day but only a few of them survive.  One of the major reasons is the lack of a basic foundation of knowledge that is taught on the 4 walls of a classroom.

Many are lucky today because social media has been generous in supplying knowledge on how to do things that originated from the application of the theories learned from academic courses.

As far as I know, Academic success can give a person an advantage over other people who lack it in terms of financial gain especially when there is no solid financial backing a person.

I can say that financial success and academic success can help supplement each other since it will be not hard to achieve academic success if one is financially successful, while academic success can give an advantage to a person since it opens a path for more financial gains.


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I have read the body of the message but I will want to reply from your title or subject of the message.
Education we say play a viral/vital role in our life but that doesn't mean we can't still succeed with/without education the thing is we go school to acquire all kinds of degrees but that doesn't mean that we can't still succeed without them. Education is like an eye opener to us because it makes us reason faster and quickly in terms of business negotiation and how to diversify our culture. Education gives an easy communication channels whereby you can reach out to your customer, workers and even gives you a higher level in any government offices or company due to your degrees obtain from the institution you attended.

Don't quote me wrongly, there are people who succeeded today without stepping their legs to school these sets of people finds it very difficult to succeed so quickly because it takes them time to be able to setups everything. But those who are educated can easily sets up a business with their exposure and their educational background it would create more room for expansion and adoption of various business ideas, education easy give an open way for investors to come into the business, so financial success are both dependant of each other's despite they don't teach success in school.
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I agree, I've got high school classmates that were geniuses and then I don't know what they're doing right now. But I have seen some of them that didn't do good during college because they don't have money and they failed to avail scholarships. From that point, those failed classmates of mine have managed to come back because of that experience. While those geniuses that have afford to graduate and managed to be successful academically were top runners and achievers and got their employment. And those that didn't reached to college due to their unfortunate situation managed to learn the real world and life and helped them to achieved financial success through their hustles.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

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It's quite interesting and it happens a lot like that that people who have high academic scores are on average below C students.

I will illustrate a little analogy that might be able to understand the mechanism, firstly someone who has high academic scores has a bright future and usually they get a big opportunity to get a job out there, which makes them an office worker, and the cycle is like Businessmen need someone who has a high IQ to get what he wants or get him more money, while people who have a C grade have little chance of getting a job, because the average company looks for people who have competition on paper as proof that they can work well in their company, well in conditions like this usually students who have a C grade will risk their courage to build their own business, therefore someone who has a C grade can change drastically and even become the owner of a large business because he previously didn't have the opportunity to get a job in a company so that you start your own business.

And Jack Ma was a C grade. Those guys who are not likely gonna get hired and the ones who always end up starting a business and venturing to unchartered territories.
They eventually learned more about the behavior of people in the real world.

Those who have nothing and can't even pass an employment exam somehow will find ways to make money and apply the little they learned from school. And those with high IQ worked for them.
Yes Jack Ma is one of the many people who do not have the opportunity to work which ultimately makes his own business to the point of success in his career.

But this is back into one's own self in my opinion, whether you have been in school or not, have good grades or not if in him is a laziness certainly will not get a meeting point in life, there is a theory that reveals that humans have a tendency for ways Thinking, one of them is Growth Mindset and Fix Mindset, I think you have heard it, I just want to conclude that Jack Ma is someone who has a growth mindset in him so he crashes into all the barrier walls to achieve his goal.

I do not know to categorize situations like this, whether lucky or not but the fact is that people who have difficult conditions will give birth to a soul of a warrior that is more resilient than the person who is given more facilities. To be honest if learned that when people who have academic values are much better, it is likely to be able to get much better results ... than people who have C value, but in the end people who have good academic values they tend to choose things that are certain, Like monthly income that has been set by the company, rather than having a business whose income is sometimes, even though someone can develop their business is much better when they have good knowledge resources, but often they are trapped by a lucrative salary offer from people who have a value of c In his company to make more money for people who have the C value. Grin
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Practical life is very different than how we think about it when we are young and still studying and completing our education. We think of doing things in the future without knowing that we might not even be interested in those things anymore when we are in the future and we might go on a different path than we are expecting. This is the reason why there are a lot of cases where people gain great academic success but fail to reach their desired destinations in life because of either of lack of opportunities or interest in their area of expertise.

So, there is no correlation between academic success and financial success because as you said, the brightest student in the class might end up being an employee of a company owned by the dullest and laziest student in the same class, and we can see living examples of this all around us if we look for it.
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Yeah, we have seen that formula but it is not like that in the modern world things are changing. You also need skills to work in the modern world. You need hands-on training in various fields. This is the world of multi-taskers. The C-certified students can open the door for a business but there is no guarantee that those businesses will be escalated to new levels. They could come to an end very soon OR may just have stagnant growth forever. However, in the same case, if we have skilled people (so-called A-certified) then they can have their logic built up that can grow the same business multifolds in no time. Running a business is not a small thing. Its collaborative work of management, sales, roadmap, a clear vision for the company, and much more. How does this come in an entire organization? Well, you need proper knowledge and experience for the same that can come from education. Smiley
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There is a correlation, but the line is slowly blurring as more people and companies pursue skills and experience over degree and where you get your diploma from.
I agree for the most part. "Colleges are scams" is becoming a popular phrase nowadays but I would argue that there are still high paying jobs that cannot be taken by someone without getting a degree from school first and then getting certification. Lawyers and Doctors are good examples of those.

Academy success has no correlation with financial success that is why we can see our college mates nit doing well financially even when we remember that they were doing very well when they were in School. School is not a success ground for us to build our success in life. It only build us on how to relate with this that are not even reality of life. We need to try and adjust this differences and not seeing ourselves of a prominent key of success because we are good academically or because we are known to be one of the best 10 students. Success in life is different from all that so we all need to strive to get to where we want to see ourselves in years coming.
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Sometimes it is not about the financial success. At the end of the day, it boils down to success at home, health, friendship and good relationships. Some of the A students actually look at making impact in the world in whatever field they find themselves in. These A students don't care about who they work for as long as they are making impact. These A students are the Nobel Prize winners, Canada Gairdner Award, Fresenius Research Prize, The Laskers, Life Sciences Breakthrough Prize, MacArthur Fellowships, Tang Prize, Crafoord Prizes, The Fields Medal. This is what is important to them.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

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I totally agree. I doesn't matter if you're A or C student, what is your IQ etc.  You can be a very successful entrepreneur with virtually any IQ and education. As you have correctly mentioned, you have to be brave, take risks etc but also luck is very important. Without luck, no matter how smart, brave and educated you are, nothing is going to let you become successful.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

fastercapital.com/startup-topic/Taking-Calculated-Risks.html
In life, its not only intelligence that serves the most crucial to live a successful life most especially in achieving financial success, but having good performance and well developed skills and techniques that will create a good and comfortable life for you, giving financial stability as having the highest concern. Academic achievements do not really matter, but what matter the most is how you applied all those learnings in real life battles so you will come up still successful despite of the hardships that you have encountered.

Financial success does not correlate with academic success but for you to gain high chances to be financially successful in the future, build your academic success that serves as the foundation and make sure to learn and internalize behind those academic achievement.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

fastercapital.com/startup-topic/Taking-Calculated-Risks.html
Not everything on this world would really be just that basing on how smart you are or having those topnotch educational background because success isnt really that something that would really be focusing or needed to have these things for you to be able to achieve such situation. It all matters about discipline and dedication at the same time on which doing such hard work. Although there are really indeed situations on which
smart people does have that advantage compared to those who are none basing up on how they do think and how fast they do come up with a solution on particular problems. Yes, its an advantage but
it all matters with risks taking because not all would really be solved out by brain alone but also with having that good assessment and trying out to solve problems or facing it up
with courage and coming up with some solutions that hasnt been advised or think of.

This is why its never been that ideal on belittling someone just because they do have  that average or low academic attainment or achievement.
You wouldn't know on what comes next.
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It is true but academic success can sharpen your success rate Though there isn't any guarantee that you will be successful, this will increase your chance. I have seen people with no academic knowledge build a company from scratch and his friends who were top students in his class are doing jobs in his company. Business minded people learn from the real world so their knowledge goes beyond academic books. This is the reason some people are so successful in business when their educational background is not good enough.
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I can believe that the C students have a higher chance of ending up with financial success than the A students because of their approach to life which in some instances will be rugged and of a dogged mind to take whatever relevant risk within the legal boundaries to make sure that the succeed since they already know that they have a lesser chance to succeed following what they have learnt in school may not favor them due to their not so good result, so they double up their focus on other things in life that can give them financial success, and usually turn out successful still.

Academic success is not the only way to financial success.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

fastercapital.com/startup-topic/Taking-Calculated-Risks.html
It's quite interesting and it happens a lot like that that people who have high academic scores are on average below C students.

I will illustrate a little analogy that might be able to understand the mechanism, firstly someone who has high academic scores has a bright future and usually they get a big opportunity to get a job out there, which makes them an office worker, and the cycle is like Businessmen need someone who has a high IQ to get what he wants or get him more money, while people who have a C grade have little chance of getting a job, because the average company looks for people who have competition on paper as proof that they can work well in their company, well in conditions like this usually students who have a C grade will risk their courage to build their own business, therefore someone who has a C grade can change drastically and even become the owner of a large business because he previously didn't have the opportunity to get a job in a company so that you start your own business.

And Jack Ma was a C grade. Those guys who are not likely gonna get hired and the ones who always end up starting a business and venturing to unchartered territories.
They eventually learned more about the behavior of people in the real world.

Those who have nothing and can't even pass an employment exam somehow will find ways to make money and apply the little they learned from school. And those with high IQ worked for them.

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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

fastercapital.com/startup-topic/Taking-Calculated-Risks.html
It's quite interesting and it happens a lot like that that people who have high academic scores are on average below C students.

I will illustrate a little analogy that might be able to understand the mechanism, firstly someone who has high academic scores has a bright future and usually they get a big opportunity to get a job out there, which makes them an office worker, and the cycle is like Businessmen need someone who has a high IQ to get what he wants or get him more money, while people who have a C grade have little chance of getting a job, because the average company looks for people who have competition on paper as proof that they can work well in their company, well in conditions like this usually students who have a C grade will risk their courage to build their own business, therefore someone who has a C grade can change drastically and even become the owner of a large business because he previously didn't have the opportunity to get a job in a company so that you start your own business.
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We have seen that it has been debated that there are more A students who work for C students or there are C students who earn more than A students. Personally I don't believe any of this premise. What I believe is that it doesn't matter whether you are an A student or have a high IQ. Rather it's about having the courage to venture into unchattered territories, including taking calculated risk and making the most of the opportunities that lead to high income. In our society today and in the past, the people who have demonstrated audacity and capitalized on privileged advantages to undertake risky yet lucrative business ideas are the ones who end up being of great influence and earn more. Do you agree?

fastercapital.com/startup-topic/Taking-Calculated-Risks.html
Your life during school days does not determine your life after schooling. In short, your academic results do not guarantee your financial profitability in the future. A lot of successful men these days are not actually the excellent students way back then, but because of their hardwork and persistency to reach their goals, they have conquered life's barriers and end up successful.

However, there are also topnotchers in the class and eventually when they apply for their jobs, they end up filling the high positions. That proves that academics achievements still matter, but in most cases, it's the strategies and skills that made you successful in life and achieved financial success in the process. Of course, being patient, having self-discipline and being proactive greatly matter as well.
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I don't think it's about high IQ, it's primarily about human personality, I mean there are many people who don't have higher education but they have succeeded in their lives.

There are many of these stories that tell us that determination, will, and hard work to achieve a goal are the basic characteristics of success. Yes, higher education and good culture play a big role in a person’s success, but in the end it is not everything.

Circumstances also play a big role in a person's success or failure. People who took advantage of the appropriate opportunities that came to them at certain times achieved success while others failed.
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