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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

Too bad to see how devastating if the FUDs hit the market before but for now, people are actually had learned already and they become more hesitant upon hearing them. We are still surrounded by these things, fake news, and market manipulations but to look at how they respond to this, they remain calm and that is how to see the market never went down too fast, instead it stays calm and still healthy.

I still remember the time where just a single negative news that will be posted in the internet will make the market go down double digit percentage but at the same time, a positive news will make the market go up as well.
The point is, we are learning. We know what to do when FUDS or negative news are on the internet. We are maturing. We know how to stay calm if there is a storm (FUDS). Though there are some investors who are still panicking, most of us just remain patient and calm and let the market do its thing.

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

Maybe if the Ukraine-Russia war will end this month then probably.
I don't know but it might have an effect towards what is happening now because when Russia declared war, market went down and days after it went up. Maybe if there are some good news then it might help the market to recover or.... maybe we will just see the market recover out of nowhere. We've seen it happened many times already that market is going up without any reason whatsoever.

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....., they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

there are always many who do that for profit and it is not new, many investors play to spread FUD so that what they want and their goals can be achieved properly. FUD is exploited by those who want to lower the price of a coin just so they can buy it cheaply.

That is part of the market to show how healthy this is and how worth investing this market, FUD is part of crypto currency world since day 1 and in this there are profiting and losing.
Buy crypto when FUD is spreading because surely there will be a dumping and in the next months will increase the value.

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In my opinion, investors who are savvy and experienced in the crypto world do not panic when the price of cryptocurrencies drops drastically, instead, they choose to buy at low prices to hold a number of different cryptocurrencies in the long term to diversify their portfolio. Therefore, in investing in crypto assets, it is very important to determine a trading strategy, make the right decisions and take steps to reduce losses.

of course they are taking this as an advantage to buy more mate, that is how the old investors act when there is a on going FUD attack.

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....., they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

there are always many who do that for profit and it is not new, many investors play to spread FUD so that what they want and their goals can be achieved properly. FUD is exploited by those who want to lower the price of a coin just so they can buy it cheaply.

Yes it is usually the strategy of whales to make more profit. They create panic in the market and people fear and sell off in regret. There are many pump business going on while newbies are not aware, they only have the idea a coin is pumping and jump in but at the end they don't come out with any profit. Therefore we need more research and being careful before investment.

true, unfortunately some still do things that are not commendable but some also don't know it. thus always creating panic for the purpose of making many do the wrong thing by releasing what has been held so far at a price favorable to the creator of the FUD. actions that are not commendable but they have indeed made this a commonplace and profitable thing, hopefully more people will understand.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

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It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

It depends if you say like short - mid-term, months is possible. Because the same as what happened in the 2017 - 2018 bear market, after we peaked at around $19,000. It took years before we created another new all-time-high and that's how I can say recover.

But with all the FUD, for me, FUD are just temporary and just a short term because someone is just using it to make some good entry on the market, like accumulate more while downtrend.

FUD is here to stay as well, many needs it to see the corrections and buy again at the dip price. FUD maybe for temporary only but its really effective on crashing the market, many still make money because of the FUD and that’s why they continue to spread it. We might not see the recovery this Month, there’s no good news yet to boost the market, just a pure negative news for now especially with regards to Russia and Ukraine.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 06, 2022, 12:17:04 AM

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We've never seen a FUD that really took the market hard, they only have temporary effect in the market because the investors are wise enough to know what this naysayers have been doing, create chaos and let others sell so that they can buy cheap bitcoin and so the market recovers. This is also predominantly in the 2017-2018 time frame.

If you check the market you will see that the coins that touched the all time high valuations last year is no where near those valuations right now. We might have not seen a bigger one time drop to see the same kind of impact like we used to see but majority of the coins that touched the all time high valuation are currently valued less than half of that and the market keeps on dropping every time without showing any signs of recovery.

In the long term it might be true, if you trust the project and the term then there is nothing to worry about any short term issues especially FUD and all you need to do is HODL for a few years.

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Quote from: Obito on March 03, 2022, 02:10:04 AM

There's still some FUD that's successful at making people move their crypto, they're just making it much more complicated and not an outright FUD, they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

They always succeed to spread FUD and that’s why the market drops, its pretty normal to see people on panic but let’s not expect those FUD will last since investors will realize later that the market is not that bad, and it will recover soon. FUD becomes necessary here to correct the market, too bad for those who panic and sell at a big loss.

They were probably newbies who haven't experienced a FUD before and after that FUD or after they sold their crypto they will realize soon that they have been played by the manipulators. Lucky for us we know what was coming before it gets worse since the internet is full of scammers and different kinds of market manipulators. I guess FUD is essential in this market I don't know if this kind of strategy is acceptable or nah let them do their strategy to make profit in trading. lol

This is something that happens a lot especially after we leave a bull market behind, newbies mistakenly believe that the only thing markets do is to go up because that is all what they have been experimenting so far, so when they finally face a decrease in the price they fall for all kinds of FUD as they are confused about the market conditions they are facing at the time, however if they had actually taken the time to study the markets then they would not have been surprised by this behavior and instead they should have expected something like this to happen sooner or later.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on March 05, 2022, 06:41:35 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

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It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

It depends if you say like short - mid-term, months is possible. Because the same as what happened in the 2017 - 2018 bear market, after we peaked at around $19,000. It took years before we created another new all-time-high and that's how I can say recover.

That is the cycle indeed, ath in 2017, bear market 2018-early 2020 specially the scare of the pandemic. And then the catalyst, the block halving happened.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on March 05, 2022, 06:41:35 PM

But with all the FUD, for me, FUD are just temporary and just a short term because someone is just using it to make some good entry on the market, like accumulate more while downtrend.

We've never seen a FUD that really took the market hard, they only have temporary effect in the market because the investors are wise enough to know what this naysayers have been doing, create chaos and let others sell so that they can buy cheap bitcoin and so the market recovers. This is also predominantly in the 2017-2018 time frame.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

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It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

It depends if you say like short - mid-term, months is possible. Because the same as what happened in the 2017 - 2018 bear market, after we peaked at around $19,000. It took years before we created another new all-time-high and that's how I can say recover.

But with all the FUD, for me, FUD are just temporary and just a short term because someone is just using it to make some good entry on the market, like accumulate more while downtrend.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

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It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

^ We don't have a preference for this, it is always unpredictable at this moment.
For now, I think, manipulations are very hard for manipulators to take action because of the higher market cap which means it is hard to manipulate. However, they will spread FUD and that is how to spend on how people react to the FUD, if people are successfully affected by the FUD that is how manipulators become successful in their goal.
Nevertheless, I think this correction right now and about the FUD, is because some of the big investors trying to sell their BTC and assuming they have hit the sanctioned that implemented by the US.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 04, 2022, 03:57:28 PM

The only winners are those people who buy when the weak hands panic.

FUD is only applicable for those who easily panic because they lack knowledge on what they are doing, that's not good for them but good for us who know it's an opportunity to buy. That's why the words "whales manipulate the market exist" because, with our ignorance, they can take advantage on that by shaking the market so we will dump and they'll be very happy to accumulate.

Nah, the real winners are the exchanges. Sell, buy, whatever, they get a commission. They just love these market swings though; high volatility makes people panic sell (or panic buy) and just pushes down the domino array in whichever direction -- they win either way.

People who buy dips/crashes aren't winners until they liquidate, you see Wink

Oh and I don't get why you guys so scared of FUD. When has it ever been bad for us?

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No there are naive investors as well who fall for the FUDS and regret later, sometimes even we who discuss about these things regularly in this forum falls for FUDS or FOMO we cannot expect all the investors to be well versed with the trading strategies as some just thinks that if they invest and leave the amount it will give them guaranteed return whenever they want to withdraw but as they realise that they are losing on capital during the dump or bear market they end up selling it out of panic. Only experience and knowledge can help them.

The forum members are surely part of world existing with blood and emotions running around them. Investment really is not one straight forward venture, it goes up and down , it doesn't guarantee anything tomorrow. It all depends on the coins bought in the investment. Example btc has been the first choice, many investors btc because it is decentralised.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 04, 2022, 03:57:28 PM

The only winners are those people who buy when the weak hands panic.

FUD is only applicable for those who easily panic because they lack knowledge on what they are doing, that's not good for them but good for us who know it's an opportunity to buy. That's why the words "whales manipulate the market exist" because, with our ignorance, they can take advantage on that by shaking the market so we will dump and they'll be very happy to accumulate.

And, if they wouldn't paper hand it as well when market gets chaotic and their reasoning behind that catch won't dismantle because of their trading behavior. It needs a rock-hard resolve if you need to win, a realist approach. Whales manipulate the market but it's safe to note that even whales don't have crystal balls in their hand on when the market will top or bottom, they can just shake the market.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 04, 2022, 03:57:28 PM

The only winners are those people who buy when the weak hands panic.

FUD is only applicable for those who easily panic because they lack knowledge on what they are doing, that's not good for them but good for us who know it's an opportunity to buy. That's why the words "whales manipulate the market exist" because, with our ignorance, they can take advantage on that by shaking the market so we will dump and they'll be very happy to accumulate.

Winners indeed to those people who do really able to buy on the dip are the ones who do really took advantage on such manner because Fud would really be always be part of this market and theres no

way that we could really avoid that.We know that lots had been involved not only us retail traders but to think as a whole there were lots of big players around and institutions which could really have

a big role but on this decentralized market then manipulative acts is kinda not really be tolerable which it isnt something new.

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The only winners are those people who buy when the weak hands panic.

FUD is only applicable for those who easily panic because they lack knowledge on what they are doing, that's not good for them but good for us who know it's an opportunity to buy. That's why the words "whales manipulate the market exist" because, with our ignorance, they can take advantage on that by shaking the market so we will dump and they'll be very happy to accumulate.

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Quote from: lepbagong on March 04, 2022, 10:11:11 AM

Quote from: Obito on March 03, 2022, 02:10:04 AM

....., they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

there are always many who do that for profit and it is not new, many investors play to spread FUD so that what they want and their goals can be achieved properly. FUD is exploited by those who want to lower the price of a coin just so they can buy it cheaply.

Yes it is usually the strategy of whales to make more profit. They create panic in the market and people fear and sell off in regret. There are many pump business going on while newbies are not aware, they only have the idea a coin is pumping and jump in but at the end they don't come out with any profit. Therefore we need more research and being careful before investment.

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Quote from: Obito on March 03, 2022, 02:10:04 AM

....., they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

there are always many who do that for profit and it is not new, many investors play to spread FUD so that what they want and their goals can be achieved properly. FUD is exploited by those who want to lower the price of a coin just so they can buy it cheaply.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 01, 2022, 09:29:52 AM

Too bad to see how devastating if the FUDs hit the market before but for now, people are actually had learned already and they become more hesitant upon hearing them. We are still surrounded by these things, fake news, and market manipulations but to look at how they respond to this, they remain calm and that is how to see the market never went down too fast, instead it stays calm and still healthy.

It is really possible to have recoveries this month, not that strong but I feel it.

What do you guys think about it?

Of course, FUD and manipulations are very bad in the cryptocurrency market. However, when it comes to March, I am afraid that only the war between Russia and Ukraine may be responsible for the price drops. Russia is still a superpower when it comes to such raw materials as oil and gas, and the sanctions can cause very large shocks in the market not only for raw materials, but also for the shares of many companies that are shareholders in Russian companies. In my opinion, March will be unpleasant for all markets, including cryptocurrencies. So if price drops come now, it will not be due to the FUD, but due to the fundamental laws of the economy.

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We are growing and I think there's a good and bad side of it.
More investors won't care about FUD and that's the positive side about learning. While the bad side is they kind of invest in bad projects popping left and right in the crypto market.
IMO, that's one of the reason why we don't see a big recovery anymore. There's too many options to pick and the competition is growing too.
Not being selfish but I think it's still best to buy Bitcoin first then the spare will be for others, not the other way around. As long as BTC grows in value other cryptocurrencies will have a chance to ride it.

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Quote from: Obito on March 03, 2022, 02:10:04 AM

There's still some FUD that's successful at making people move their crypto, they're just making it much more complicated and not an outright FUD, they might not win the market but I am sure that it's still going to make the FUD spreader some money since manipulation in the market is something that's not new.

There's no such thing a market that wont be affected by a FUD and we would might able to see it on next days or months or years to come because you dont know on when emotional aspect or reaction

actually it is exaggeration when say nothing will take effect but of course we are seeing it lowering over the years.
nowadays people are learner and they tend to disregard fud instead looking for the true reason first.

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of the community would do about those sentiments specially on negative would neither really get some attention or would be simply ignored and we couldnt tell on what would be the situation would be.

at least we can see some light now every time there is a FUD, because experts are keep on helping newbie not to be affected .

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So always expect the unexpected because this is something not an assurance that we had already get rid of it.

That is the truth of life , but remember that the market must have reaction to show how healthy it is .

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