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Topic: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know) - page 3. (Read 647 times)

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Improved Access for Restricted Regions: Players from regions like Quatar, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan and others with strict gambling regulations and limited access to Casinos can Indulge in it without trace and will find no-KYC options more accessible and comforting.


This is not an advantage since casino clearly violating the law of that specific country regarding online gambling. It like enabling restricted citizens to bypass their law just because you give them a chance. Casino that doing this is committing a crime.

Also casino that offers this kind of feature only offers house game since 3rd party game providers has their terms and conditions that separate to the casino. This is the most unethical representation of casino without KYC benefits.
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The KYC debate continues to heat up. Coming to this topic, KYC enabled casinos are definitely way more in number and easier to trust when compared to no-KYC casinos, but no-KYC sites will always exist.

Why? Because there are plenty of gamblers out there who value privacy over everything else. They are willing to risk their money in order to stay anonymous basically.

They developed interest in the crypto world thanks to BTC and its anonymity factor.

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Op, if I'm guessing correctly, you used Ai to generate your post. I couldn't get the exact write up, because the ai was design to generate different response to different users but I found something similar


You need to enhance or resize your evidence so we can check if OP is really posting articles generated by AI, when you accuse someone you have to be sure of your allegation it is unfair to anyone being accused prematurely.

Going back to OP's topic the cons outweigh the pros of casinos without KYC, they cannot exist and compete with top casinos in the industry because regulators will keep their eyes on how they do their business and there's a possibility of being shut and domain confiscated if authorities consider non-KYC casino as an entry point of money laundering.

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Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

I have to disagree with you in this case because the Casinos and their owners can access the identity information of the users and they can do whatever they want with that information. I know that they don't publicly broadcast such information but still the shady casinos can do many things in the name of KYC. Those shady casinos can sell the users KYC data in order to earn some extra revenue by following gray hat hackers mindset. Laymen won't be able to get the data from those casinos but someone from government's side can get such data without much hassle, and that's why the Identity data isn't safe with even the trusted casinos. That's one of the reasons why people prefer Bitcoin because it provides complete privacy to user and it doesn't require any KYC information of the users, and there isn't going to be any interference from centralized authorities. The Bitcoin enthusiasts would always choose the casinos that don't really need someone's KYC information.



       -  Let's just state that when a casino has the data privacy of their clients who will play on their casino platform, they may actually do whatever they want with the information they have, even if they are under a government-regulated license. But don't allow the government do what you propose because it violates the rules and policies that they sought via regulation.

So, when compared to an unregulated casino, I can state that my casino with KYC is safer because it is better regulated. Because there is no claim in that situation due to the lack of a license, the no-kyc rules gambling platforms are generally used.
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It is rare to see a non KYC casinos these dats because, the government have regulated them in other for them to be able to have statistics of how many people uses the casino daily and also for them to be able to look into the activities of the casino. The government will also collect tax from these casinos and that is why it is mandatory for many big casinos to ask for KYC. A KYC casino is safer when it comes to funds withdrawal because, they will make sure that they build a good reputation with their customers. A non KYC casino is not registered with the government and doesn't have a license of operation, this makes it easy for them to scam customers. I preder using the casinos that does KYC because it will be easy for you to have access to a big win.
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The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
No way man. In almost all of the gambling threads here in the forum, I always read that many users are against with it but maybe you only made a mistake there? KYC is hassle and it invades our privacy. No wonder why a lot of us hates it.

I believe most Non-KYC casinos are unregulated but most of them are also centralized. I don't think it's easy for a Non-KYC casino operator to tell if how long they can stay like that but I think their growth can tell it. Maybe some operators can say that they will stay like that no matter what, and maybe that is truly possible like they can pay or bribe the regulators for their casino to be excluded on the KYC rule.
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Can be easy to be found on (T & C)

But people are never check, and just register based the banner promotion. Most of casino who are offering 80% (anonymous feature, or without KYC), on their term & condition there always have some term.

You can be request KYC for some case, they admited/provided to us still can play without KYC. But once, problem / check interntal by them (KYC show up) ~XD. Simple things about KYC, any cetralized-website who are required you to register (always be ready for kyc).
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I think most casinos are using "no" KYC verification as a tool to attract lots of "new" users and it is not a long-term goal for them. They will start with zero requirements and then once they received a lot of gamblers, then they quickly change their requirements.

They need to "hook" you with something and they know the regulators are not bothered with smaller casinos. So they fund their bankroll with gamblers from countries than are banned by other casinos.... then the regulators notice them and they force them to request verification.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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If you dislike it, then simply walk away. Dealing with casinos that implement KYC is as straightforward as that. Why impose excessive discomfort on oneself?

Furthermore, everyone has their own reasons for their gambling preferences. Most individuals may only wager small amounts when enjoying a casino experience without stringent KYC requirements.

When it comes to substantial sums of money, you might have a change of heart and be willing to undergo KYC. A minor example is when you win big and wish to make a withdrawal, but the primary condition is KYC. I'm confident you'd think twice about it.

Yeah, obviously, there's a reason why KYC is imposed. One good example is that they don't allow minors. With documents being required, a minor cannot falsify the information they provide if it does not match the documents, so it serves a good purpose. If we gamble on a non-KYC casino, anyone can gamble, and it will only result in more gambling addiction problems, as minors are usually more susceptible to gambling addiction.
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Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

I have to disagree with you in this case because the Casinos and their owners can access the identity information of the users and they can do whatever they want with that information. I know that they don't publicly broadcast such information but still the shady casinos can do many things in the name of KYC. Those shady casinos can sell the users KYC data in order to earn some extra revenue by following gray hat hackers mindset. Laymen won't be able to get the data from those casinos but someone from government's side can get such data without much hassle, and that's why the Identity data isn't safe with even the trusted casinos. That's one of the reasons why people prefer Bitcoin because it provides complete privacy to user and it doesn't require any KYC information of the users, and there isn't going to be any interference from centralized authorities. The Bitcoin enthusiasts would always choose the casinos that don't really need someone's KYC information.

The government officials if I am not mistaken are not allowed to gamble even enter and stay on the gambling premises, at least in my country.

I agree with you but when someone is addicted to gambling or enjoys gambling then he/she will find a way to gamble. They most probably do it secretly because law doesn't allow them to gamble directly and that's why they will always choose the casinos that allow gambling with any KYC requirements. Because without KYC documents no one can guess who's gambling behind a computer.
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If you dislike it, then simply walk away. Dealing with casinos that implement KYC is as straightforward as that. Why impose excessive discomfort on oneself?

Furthermore, everyone has their own reasons for their gambling preferences. Most individuals may only wager small amounts when enjoying a casino experience without stringent KYC requirements.

When it comes to substantial sums of money, you might have a change of heart and be willing to undergo KYC. A minor example is when you win big and wish to make a withdrawal, but the primary condition is KYC. I'm confident you'd think twice about it.
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Really? I've never seen a online casino with very stressful registration, they are all easy to go through until you have to pass KYC verification, which I don't think it's hard either, unless you provide bad or blurry pictures of your credentials.

The bad side of online casinos that allow people to gamble with no verification is lawmen going after their asses and getting their business fined, they will later have to ask you for KYC, I am not going to bet that point, No KYC casinos don't last long, and most of them are not even registered and regulated.

If you pass KYC it doesn't mean they will leak your identity to the world, do not be scared of passing KYC verification, they use this information to fight corruptions like money embezzlement and laundering, even illegal fundings can happen on a casino.
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Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.
There will soon be a time when these people who are hesitant to comply with the KYC and AML rules will have no choice because there won't be any casino platforms that will allow players to gamble without completing their KYC verification and these people will have nowhere to go but will be compelled to complete their KYC verification at the platforms that they use without saying a word or talking about privacy or anonymity or blaming casinos for asking for KYC.

I always tell people to find a casino platform that they trust and do their KYC verification now so that they can gamble without any problems and will also not face any problems in the future when there will be no KYC-less platforms in the industry and they will have no other choice but to comply with it.
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One of the factors that most be considered before enabling kyc verification process is the security so the question is how secure is the casino that all the users information will be kept on a secure database because one of the things I realize is that most people are not against casino that enable kyc verification but what they're actually afraid is there data security to avoid unauthorized access to there information and using there data for criminal activity, I like casinos that enables kyc but most times I use to be scared uploading my data for kyc but I make sure is a reputable casino before I can feel free uploading my data.

But with the use of kyc verification in casino it enables them to scare away people with bad intentions to the casino were as they cannot upload any of there data and as such there activities on that casino will be limited if not completely eradicated.
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The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
It's not possible to get a clear statistics on if people actually prefer KYC required casino over no KYC required casino, personally I have no problem with kyc required casino platform or no KYC. But there are factors that should be considered before choosing.

Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.
I think it's the responsibility of a casino to comply with secrecy laws, much like banks have their 'bank secrecy laws' that penalize them if they leak their clients' personal records. Sensitive information should only be transferred between government agencies, and all of them are governed by such laws as well.


The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.
Obviously, they would stay away from casinos that require KYC verification, as that would put them at risk of getting easily caught.
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Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.
Especially now that strict rules are in place, the gambling industry is not for the faint of heart. KYC processes are becoming more and more common, not just in casinos but in the financial world as a whole. It's an attempt to stop money laundering and make sure everything is clear. If you like to gamble, it's very important that you know these rules

However, I also agree with you that you should avoid a platform if its KYC procedures make you uncomfortable. Before committing to a casino, make sure you know as much as you can about it and how it works. It's admirable that you take a practical approach to KYC in both fiat and cryptocurrency casinos. Such a stance ensures compliance and reduces future issues. Congratulations on your gambling knowledge and skill
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Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.
The moment you submit your documents to an online service then it's not yours anymore and your privacy is no longer under your control. Regulators can have access to these information if they want to and at any moment they want. Hackers, if they gain access to the casini/service's databases, then they will have access to your documents. The casini/service owner can sell your documents to any entity (usually on the dark web) he wants and there is nothing you can do about it.


Yes, but if we don't trust a casino, why would we give it our personal documents? The bank operates similarly, right? Or any business sector to which we supply personal ID documents, they are able to carry out your suggestion, right?

Thus, it depends on our level of trust in a casino. Do you believe that once you trust a casino and provide your ID documents for KYC, they can no longer be used for nefarious purposes or sold? Naturally not, as you have faith in the casino.
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Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.
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Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.
The moment you submit your documents to an online service then it's not yours anymore and your privacy is no longer under your control. Regulators can have access to these information if they want to and at any moment they want. Hackers, if they gain access to the casini/service's databases, then they will have access to your documents. The casini/service owner can sell your documents to any entity (usually on the dark web) he wants and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.

The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.



Well, that's the most important thing that you mentioned. The majority of crypto-currency enthusiasts or you can say gamblers don't really want to reveal their true identity in public due to privacy concerns and they love to remain anonymous. Those users will always prefer to go with the casinos that don't require KYC and they will try their best to avoid all those casinos that require KYC verification. Sometimes the gamblers who are in having good position in government also try to avoid KYC thing because it would be a difficult thing for a police officer to share his details on a casino site where he enjoys spending time. Such people just love to spend time on those casinos where information about KYC isn't needed, and sometimes those people who have done any criminal activity will also avoid the KYC thing. But, the criminals are so dam good at doing crimes that they can easily manipulate someone else and use his/her documents to complete KYC requirements.

Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

The government officials if I am not mistaken are not allowed to gamble even enter and stay on the gambling premises, at least in my country.

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