No more signature campaigns for Junior Members - Asking for a grace period - page 2.

klixion

sr. member

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Quote from: ilnick on January 26, 2018, 02:44:39 AM

Obviously, the manager of each campaign will decide how to operate with juniors with signatures. Nothing depends on us.

We just can to ask or wait for their announcement.

It'll be up to the project leader to decide. Usually the campaign manager is just an employee. It doesn't look good for jr. members though since the signature link isn't clickable. It'll be unfair to those who have a working signature to split their bounties with non working ones. It'll be fair to payout for the weeks up to this new merit change since most stakes are earned weekly anyways.

Bitkoyns

sr. member

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Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

As you may be aware, the forum now has a "merit" system. You may find all the details here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

In short, you will need people to "upvote" your posts to advance in rank, as opposed to making a certain amount of posts over time. The rules are explained in more detail in the thread, but "merit" is a scarce resource now, although we don´t know how scarce.

But I am placing this post in AltCoin discussion because it affects how signature campaigns are affected and many members don´t read the "Meta" section.

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

If you consider that there should be some grace period or that an alternative solution could be implemented, you may post here or on the original Meta thread.

If you are a good quality poster you dont have nothing to worry , if you have a good quality post someone will give you a merit and it will help you to rank up .

It is a good policy that forum may have to eliminate those low quality poster.

lucemferrum01

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The Future Of Work

Quote from: flip4flop on January 25, 2018, 09:07:48 PM

The merit system is interesting for sure. It can help limit some of the spam postings that is going on just to rank up. However, if no members are actually giving other members merit it can become a toxic system that limits the amount of leveling up across the forum and become counterproductive. While I do like the idea of the merit system its success is going to be based on the middle of the pack Members-Senior Members to succeed.

True this can be a double edge sword since not all people will be aware of the merit system or will give time to consider someone by giving them merits since most of the users here were either learning and reading or just completing their tasks for the bounty campaigns they participated. I mean it can also be a form of spamming and how will they be able to monitor the legitimacy of these merits I hope someday they would just develop a system or a graph on each profile's activity that include its average character per post and time spent per thread to distinguish those who are just spamming for ranks.

ilnick

newbie

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Obviously, the manager of each campaign will decide how to operate with juniors with signatures. Nothing depends on us.

We just can to ask or wait for their announcement.

Lucky_U

full member

Activity: 364

Merit: 100

New merit system will helps to make more usefull posts and avoide spam.

Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

I think this problem will be solved by bounty managers of each campaigns and most of participants will get their already earned stakes.

JohnMacZeppelin

full member

Activity: 602

Merit: 101

I have not yet fully understood this, but I think that this will be a new way of controlling people, because lately more and more people are beginning to stay on the forum with the same thought, I think it's not worth talking about this thought, so probably they introduced this system

taeewo

full member

Activity: 392

Merit: 100

This is a good development from the team as it will reduce those creating multiple accounts to participate on bounty....

Arcblock gave chance to all rank to participate....

Arcblock is the real future of cryptocurrency..

qiwoman2

legendary

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Merit: 1023

Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron

Having this merit system in place just means people in general have to work harder to reach their goals. Due to airdrops and many people building multiple accounts to cheat the bounty system, something had to give and I guess they thought of this. Personally if people joined as juniors in a bounty campaign before this rule came out they should be allowed to continue but any new Juniors coming they need to rank up of course. I think this would be the fairest outcome of all.

chocolaty

member

Activity: 294

Merit: 14

Quote from: xiaoxz on January 25, 2018, 09:26:40 PM

Yes, there is a merit system, certainly a lot of impact on the jr member, jr signature now can not include a link, and this is a big difference.
And I think merit must be very scarce. In any case, signature compaign will tend to be member and above member.

I know someone who cannot put links on his signature and this affirmed that the new merit system has indeed afflicted Jr.Members so much. I was just wondering how they could put signatures with link? Do they need just a few merit or do they really need 10 (promoted member's rank)?

prince05

member

Activity: 126

Merit: 21

Well this new merit system is not the end to it all. It is even more challenging to think first before posting, rather than to just post and post even though you are already out of topic. I read the meta announcement and there will be people who will be task to read posts and if deemed to be a quality post but did not receive any merits, they can quote those replies and send it in the meta thread in order to apply as the merit source. So if you are a merit source I think your job will have to be to find quality posts and give merits due to them. The challenge here for us is just to create high quality posts with a lot of content and for sure that merit system will just be a fly.

swpqlhmgp

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Merit: 10

Quote from: javerzky on January 25, 2018, 11:07:39 PM

i am still a jr member and i guess this is a big deal to us jr member but i guess this updates have a good reason behind it and i rather said that i need to a continue support the project i am supporting right now.
still i need to move on and follow the new rules

I am also a jr member. I was somewhat shocked to see the new rules today. Have to say that this is a good way to manage the forum. But it also makes this level of people difficult. I do not know how the future forum will be like. But I am a bit anxious.

Crypington

full member

Activity: 210

Merit: 103

I think the OP touched on the real problem with this system ..Merit is way too scarce. I’m a full member and was only allowed 4 Merit to share. If JR members need 10, and higher ranking members need 100s, there doesn’t seem to be enough to go around.

javerzky

jr. member

Activity: 159

Merit: 1

i am still a jr member and i guess this is a big deal to us jr member but i guess this updates have a good reason behind it and i rather said that i need to a continue support the project i am supporting right now.
still i need to move on and follow the new rules

bstewart

full member

Activity: 378

Merit: 104

I like the idea of furthering merit here, as there are a lot of posters who bring no value plus broken English.

However, I'm not sure that their system for merit is going to be the best way to go about it.

rollingstorm45

member

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Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

As you may be aware, the forum now has a "merit" system. You may find all the details here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

In short, you will need people to "upvote" your posts to advance in rank, as opposed to making a certain amount of posts over time. The rules are explained in more detail in the thread, but "merit" is a scarce resource now, although we don´t know how scarce.

But I am placing this post in AltCoin discussion because it affects how signature campaigns are affected and many members don´t read the "Meta" section.

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

If you consider that there should be some grace period or that an alternative solution could be implemented, you may post here or on the original Meta thread.

this is a good policy, with many spammers attacking the forum just to raise their rank up to Hero or Legendary to use the most expensive signatures and earn money easily.
From now on, everyone should feel the hard work to be able to follow the bounty, and maybe .. the upcoming bounty campaign requires someone to have a number of + Merit

letua

newbie

Activity: 160

Merit: 0

Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

As you may be aware, the forum now has a "merit" system. You may find all the details here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

In short, you will need people to "upvote" your posts to advance in rank, as opposed to making a certain amount of posts over time. The rules are explained in more detail in the thread, but "merit" is a scarce resource now, although we don´t know how scarce.

But I am placing this post in AltCoin discussion because it affects how signature campaigns are affected and many members don´t read the "Meta" section.

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

If you consider that there should be some grace period or that an alternative solution could be implemented, you may post here or on the original Meta thread.

To be honest I did not noticed jr. member aren't able to join in signature campaign but rather newbie and jr.member is 0 in merit. Member to high rank are the one who have merit.
Merit will push me as jr.member to do my very best to post a quality one.
But thanks for this I am informed. Hopefully everyone in this community will not discriminate the lower rank because of the merit system everyone should post with quality.

btcrut2017

member

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Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

As you may be aware, the forum now has a "merit" system. You may find all the details here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

In short, you will need people to "upvote" your posts to advance in rank, as opposed to making a certain amount of posts over time. The rules are explained in more detail in the thread, but "merit" is a scarce resource now, although we don´t know how scarce.

But I am placing this post in AltCoin discussion because it affects how signature campaigns are affected and many members don´t read the "Meta" section.

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

If you consider that there should be some grace period or that an alternative solution could be implemented, you may post here or on the original Meta thread.

That's the problem. The system is implemented just in the middle of this week. So if there is a Junior Member that has joined a signature campaign like me, there is a chance that he will be expelled from that campaign depending on the bounty manager's discretion.

A Junior member can still wear a signature but not a clickable one.

Changing the rules in the middle of a game for me is unfair. It is better not to disqualify a junior member from a campaign because it is not his fault why things go this way. Let him finish the campaign because he still has the signature although without a link.

Just a thought of a Junior Member.

flip4flop

full member

Activity: 378

Merit: 135

Quote from: Mahanton on January 25, 2018, 09:24:48 PM

Quote from: flip4flop on January 25, 2018, 09:07:48 PM

The merit system is interesting for sure. It can help limit some of the spam postings that is going on just to rank up. However, if no members are actually giving other members merit it can become a toxic system that limits the amount of leveling up across the forum and become counterproductive. While I do like the idea of the merit system its success is going to be based on the middle of the pack Members-Senior Members to succeed.

If you read up the entire announcement on the merit system then you will able to know that keeping smerits would be pointless. It always being suggested to be distribute. Try to read up here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit which have been mentioned where There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.. Merit system is changing the way to level up rank it would really be more tougher because people do need to make good quality post to earn merits. If not then you will stay on your recent rank for long..

I am saying maybe they just dont care to give merit. I did read it. but people still need to take the time to use it. People are Legendary or Hero could not give any merit and nothing would ever change for them. So its really on the mid-level members to help others move up. Even if the merit decays if you do not use it that alone isnt going to motivate people to use it. Its sort of like surveys or reviews you can send out 1000 emails to click a star 1-5 for a review and you are really only going to get a percentage of responses. Some will delete the email others will just forget to use it. I still like the idea of the new system and it can be successful but it does rely on participation.

shindymlk

full member

Activity: 392

Merit: 100

Quote from: inillo on January 25, 2018, 08:51:47 PM

As you may be aware, the forum now has a "merit" system. You may find all the details here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

In short, you will need people to "upvote" your posts to advance in rank, as opposed to making a certain amount of posts over time. The rules are explained in more detail in the thread, but "merit" is a scarce resource now, although we don´t know how scarce.

But I am placing this post in AltCoin discussion because it affects how signature campaigns are affected and many members don´t read the "Meta" section.

JUNIORS CAN´T HAVE A SIGNATURE NOW

This means that if you were in the middle of a campaign that required wearing the signature... you are done. Most likely you´ll get nothing.

If you consider that there should be some grace period or that an alternative solution could be implemented, you may post here or on the original Meta thread.

i agree with your statement. since merit available at bitcoin profile, Jr.Member cant have signature campaign, just some profile have a merit can join signature and i think "elite campaign" started, cause
some profile have many merit still join signature campaign, not to Jr. Member and lower

xiaoxz

member

Activity: 196

Merit: 10

Yes, there is a merit system, certainly a lot of impact on the jr member, jr signature now can not include a link, and this is a big difference.
And I think merit must be very scarce. In any case, signature compaign will tend to be member and above member.

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