Hi theymos, thanks for the easily exploitable quote 
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I first found Bitcoin on 4chan, so I especially like 4chan.
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I first found Bitcoin on 4chan, so I especially like 4chan.
Hi theymos, thanks for the easily exploitable quote
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These forums don't need to become 4chan just to allow photos, and what kind of an admin can't restrict sizes?
I like 4chan. On 4chan, every image is hosted locally, so there are no security problems, and each image is the same, small size until you click on it. I want to do the same thing here, but without the thumbnail (since this is not an imageboard and images are not the central focus).
Fine. Fair point. So make sig images turned off by default, but let people turn them on if they choose! What you are proposing removes all choice entirely from the user. You are doing the very opposite of providing "freedom and choice" which you ironically use as justification for limiting those very things.
I'm fine with that:
SMF doesn't support this. If it did, I would definitely allow the option of showing signature images.
I'd add it now if I could figure out how to add a new user setting in a reasonable amount of time.
Someone might not care about another user's mining stats, but what about an image that shows how many donations a charity has recieved?
It would be far down on my list of things to do, but I wouldn't be opposed to having the server fetch a small text file every once in a while to display in signatures/posts.
Bottom line: Allow signature images-- if I don't like them, I can add a greasemonkey user script to hide them in literally 30 seconds.
Like I said before, I think it's a better policy to assume that people don't want images. You can write a GreaseMonkey script to expand all directly-linked images in a few minutes, too.
here're more things to consider to disable:
emoticons
icons
css styles
js
as it is not real information and therefor completely worthless and offtopic, just taking extra space and bandwith
emoticons
icons
css styles
js
as it is not real information and therefor completely worthless and offtopic, just taking extra space and bandwith
Emoticons probably will be eliminated with the next software. Images in the layout will be reduced. The other things are used to attractively structure data and create features. Even Bitcoin Block Explorer uses CSS and JavaScript.
I find avatars to be useful in quickly identifying posters, so I'm almost never annoyed by those. You can also disable seeing them in your settings.
I don't want to be part of ANY forum that does not listen to the wishes of its members, privately owned or not. The ideology of bitcoin is one of the rejection of centralized power structures that are inflexible to the wishes of those they rule over. If this forum is not willing to do so, then most of us will just join one that listens to them and bye-bye forum.
empty threats. No one leaves here for good. Even the ones that did still lurk lolNot over the space of a few months, but time answers all questions. I want the admins here to get the answer right.
e eoe a ooa (lets remove all consonants)
I know I'm being facetious, but it's fun.
I know I'm being facetious, but it's fun.
Youknowwhatelsewecouldgetridof?Whitespace.
W cld rmv ll vwls. tht mght b fn.
Trolling much? That always gets you what you want.
Youknowwhatelsewecouldgetridof?Whitespace.
W cld rmv ll vwls. tht mght b fn.
Trolling much? That always gets you what you want.
Youknowwhatelsewecouldgetridof?Whitespace.
W cld rmv ll vwls. tht mght b fn.
Does not take a genius to figure out what's annoying and what isn't.
Smaller SIG and no animated avatar seems the best cut-off.
Sorry btcPorn
Smaller SIG and no animated avatar seems the best cut-off.
Sorry btcPorn
Don't be sorry to me, be sorry to yourself for not "voting" every time this topic has come up and even I am happy either with no sigs or regulated sigs. Hell, I am a fan of everyone signatures being EXACTLY the same in design.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/requirement-a-wallet-address-in-every-signature-24367 back from June. I still stand by that would be a cool idea too. Fuck all other things in everyones signature, just a btc address.
Animated avatar I could care less about, it is funny how two frames of animation that end up being less in size than one jpeg image most people use, but that is beside the point. Oh wait, no it isn't :p
Always felt sig sizes should just be sort of standard ad sizes. 468x60 or something around that I think. Other people prefer sig bar size. I like those too. theymos, is the further discussion on this topic done or are you kind of reading through some of the posts here to catch any actual usable ideas?
I don't want to be part of ANY forum that does not listen to the wishes of its members, privately owned or not. The ideology of bitcoin is one of the rejection of centralized power structures that are inflexible to the wishes of those they rule over. If this forum is not willing to do so, then most of us will just join one that listens to them and bye-bye forum.
empty threats. No one leaves here for good. Even the ones that did still lurk lol 
Does not take a genius to figure out what's annoying and what isn't.
Smaller SIG and no animated avatar seems the best cut-off.
Sorry btcPorn
NOT OK
(520 KB) !!!
Borderline
OK
Smaller SIG and no animated avatar seems the best cut-off.
Sorry btcPorn
NOT OK
(520 KB) !!!Borderline
OK
Yes, hosting the images is not worth the trouble. Definitely don't do that.
But there are many ways you can prevent the linking of dynamic images, and thus prevent cookie stuffing.
That is impossible. The only way you can prevent people from linking dynamic images without local hosting is by whitelisting image upload sites where you trust that it is impossible to upload dynamic images.But there are many ways you can prevent the linking of dynamic images, and thus prevent cookie stuffing.
In my mind, a forum is more useful when people can read through a guide with pictures without having to click on each image to display it individually. But I guess not everyone can look past the fractions-of-a-second lost when scrolling past an off-topic picture. 
Agreed. The cookie stuffing exploit is real enough, though. It would be easy enough to add some Javascript to detect whether or not the resource loaded in the img src url is actually an image, and if not, then all users who have Javascript enabled would get a huge warning (and mods could easily see them and delete).
eg:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3499941/javascript-check-if-img-src-is-valid
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3744266/how-can-i-test-if-a-url-is-a-valid-image-in-javascript
Yes, hosting the images is not worth the trouble. Definitely don't do that.
But there are many ways you can prevent the linking of dynamic images, and thus prevent cookie stuffing.
That is impossible. The only way you can prevent people from linking dynamic images without local hosting is by whitelisting image upload sites where you trust that it is impossible to upload dynamic images.But there are many ways you can prevent the linking of dynamic images, and thus prevent cookie stuffing.
In my mind, a forum is more useful when people can read through a guide with pictures without having to click on each image to display it individually. But I guess not everyone can look past the fractions-of-a-second lost when scrolling past an off-topic picture.
Agreed. The cookie stuffing exploit is real enough, though. It would be easy enough to add some Javascript to detect whether or not the resource loaded in the img src url is actually an image, and if not, then all users who have Javascript enabled would get a huge warning (and mods could easily see them and delete).
eg:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3499941/javascript-check-if-img-src-is-valid
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3744266/how-can-i-test-if-a-url-is-a-valid-image-in-javascript
Also, I love how strong of an opinion everyone has at the moment when this topic has come up so many times yet I don't think I have ever seen this much activity about it.
This is the first time I have heard anything about banning embedded images. I thought it was just about banning signature images. That in and of itself isn't too big of a deal, so I never felt the need to say much about it. Most find them annoying, and there are legitimate reasons for wanting to get rid of them, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as total banning of all embedded external images. That is an insane policy unless the admins are willing to go the extra expense and provide local image storage.
... just people whining about censorship and democracy issues on a privately owned forum.
I don't want to be part of ANY forum that does not listen to the wishes of its members, privately owned or not. The ideology of bitcoin is one of the rejection of centralized power structures that are inflexible to the wishes of those they rule over. If this forum is not willing to do so, then most of us will just join one that listens to them and bye-bye forum. Democracy still functions correctly on the nets at least. I personally like this forum, so I want to ensure that the admins make the correct decisions and have a thriving community that continues into the future.
anyone else think it's funny this policy is coming from the owner of the most bland bitcoin site ever (blockexplorer.com)?
here're more things to consider to disable:
emoticons
icons
css styles
js
as it is not real information and therefor completely worthless and offtopic, just taking extra space and bandwith
Good point. All you need is tables in a database format. Minimalism at its best!emoticons
icons
css styles
js
as it is not real information and therefor completely worthless and offtopic, just taking extra space and bandwith
Heck, remove the links too - those just take up space. If you want to get somewhere, just type in the URL.
Youknowwhatelsewecouldgetridof?Whitespace.
Fair enough.
Animated avatars are the worst. Also, I love how strong of an opinion everyone has at the moment when this topic has come up so many times yet I don't think I have ever seen this much activity about it.
pot, kettle. just people whining about censorship and democracy issues on a privately owned forum.There are many other forums available with many posting options https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin:Community_portal .. and a lot of those are not hosted on MagicalTux's servers, so no fear of the whole Mt Gox controls everything situation I sometimes read about.
Animated avatars are the worst. Also, I love how strong of an opinion everyone has at the moment when this topic has come up so many times yet I don't think I have ever seen this much activity about it.
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