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Topic: No news on CNN about air bombing on Lugansk. - page 2. (Read 5235 times)

donator
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Would someone following this (and Ukraine situation in general) mind giving me a (non-video) brief? The death toll looks pretty severe from RT, but it's extraordinary compared to other reported numbers.

My hazy understanding so far: pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine want to break away and have Huh-ed the Ukrainian government. Ukraine responded to Huh by killing hundreds of their own citizens in a bombing run which was primarily targeting Huh. US says separatists are neo-Nazi terrorists backed by Russia. Russia says Ukraine is US pawn backed solely to financially and militarily harm and threaten Russian ambitions to Huh.
legendary
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It doesn't matter whether the CNBC and BBC want to hide the atrocities. The European media is reporting them without any fear of the CIA and NATO.

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2014/06/02/ucraina-ribelli-lugansk-usate-bombe-a-grappolo_11dad8a0-6269-42fc-81fe-8f35e7549a84.html

I served in Vietnam. You're wrong. We were horrible and abusive. You need to open a history book. Solders do things they would never think of doing back home. If your beloved country is so wonderful why do we incarcerate more citizens than any other country in the world?

History is usually written by the winning side. So you won't find much about the atrocities.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
I'm not sure how this changes my upcoming trip to Vegas. I saw someone mentioned air conditioners. Are the room air conditioners not working? Are the casinos out of whiskey?

This is the view of most Americans and why CNN doesn't cover every detail of world news. Greedy American pigs just don't give a shit about suffering in the rest of the world. America protects women and children from abuse because it's so horrible but what is the first thing the American soldiers do when they attack another country? They start raping and killing the women and children. I'm surprised the Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians and Thai aren't still sending suicide bombers to America!

Bull shit. The government-media complex may not care but most Americans abhor violence as much as anyone.

Our soldiers don't "hit the ground raping" either. Our government makes stupid decisions but generally speaking our soldiers follow their inherently stupid orders and conduct themselves as well as anyone else.

There are always bad actors in any group, to judge them all by a few bad actors is short sighted and ignorant. To acknowledge that fact though would require you to rethink your anti American prejudice and we both know that irrational prejudice doesn't require thought. 

I served in Vietnam. You're wrong. We were horrible and abusive. You need to open a history book. Solders do things they would never think of doing back home. If your beloved country is so wonderful why do we incarcerate more citizens than any other country in the world?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/13/incarceration-rate-per-capita_n_3745291.html

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U.S. soldiers raped Okinawan women during the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

Based on several years of research, Okinawan historian Oshiro Masayasu (former director of the Okinawa Prefectural Historical Archives) writes:
Soon after the U.S. Marines landed, all the women of a village on Motobu Peninsula fell into the hands of American soldiers. At the time, there were only women, children, and old people in the village, as all the young men had been mobilized for the war. Soon after landing, the Marines "mopped up" the entire village, but found no signs of Japanese forces. Taking advantage of the situation, they started "hunting for women" in broad daylight, and women who were hiding in the village or nearby air raid shelters were dragged out one after another.

There were also 1,336 reported rapes during the first 10 days of the occupation of Kanagawa prefecture after the Japanese surrender.

Secret wartime files made public only in 2006 reveal that American GIs committed 400 sexual offences in Europe, including 126 rapes in England, between 1942 and 1945. A study by Robert J. Lilly estimates that a total of 14,000 civilian women in England, France and Germany were raped by American GIs during World War II. It is estimated that there were around 3,500 rapes by American servicemen in France between June 1944 and the end of the war and one historian has claimed that sexual violence against women in liberated France was common.

There were rapes and sexual atrocities conducted almost continuously by servicemen during the Vietnam war. The worst of which, the My Lai Massacre was the mass murder of 347 to 504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam, almost entirely civilians, most of them women and children, conducted by U.S. Army forces on 16 March 1968. Some of the victims were raped, beaten, tortured, or maimed, and some of the bodies were found mutilated. The massacre took place in the hamlets of Mỹ Lai and My Khe of Sơn Mỹ village during the Vietnam War.

An incident took place in a village in the Chahar Bolak district of Afghanistan’s Balkh Province where US special forces carried out house-to-house searches.
During the operation, the troopers separated the men and women of about 15 families and raped the women.

Male prisoners of war were subject to rape and sexual violence. Sexual violence against male prisoners of war gained wide publicity after graphic photos documented such abuses on male Iraqi prisoners by US guards at Abu Ghraib prison, Iraq. Nude prisoners were forced to humiliate themselves.

Military police personnel of the United States Army and the Central Intelligence Agency raped Iraqi civilians in torture cells.

Accused of the rape of a 13-year old Iraqi girl, soldier Steve Dale Green officially stated that: "I didn't think of the Iraqis as human." under oath when questioned why he killed the child's family before raping and killing her. There are other charges of U.S. soldiers taking turns in raping 14-year old girls that are pending because of government secrecy.


legendary
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CNN report about Airstrike on Lugansk.

http://vk.com/video211957138_168749883

Quite surprising. I am watching an unbiased video from the CNN after ages.  Grin

The CNN is admitting that 8 civilians (including 5 women) were dead during the attack, and they are further saying that the Kiev propaganda that the rebels caused the attack is 100% wrong.
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I'm not sure how this changes my upcoming trip to Vegas. I saw someone mentioned air conditioners. Are the room air conditioners not working? Are the casinos out of whiskey?

This is the view of most Americans and why CNN doesn't cover every detail of world news. Greedy American pigs just don't give a shit about suffering in the rest of the world. America protects women and children from abuse because it's so horrible but what is the first thing the American soldiers do when they attack another country? They start raping and killing the women and children. I'm surprised the Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians and Thai aren't still sending suicide bombers to America!

Bull shit. The government-media complex may not care but most Americans abhor violence as much as anyone.

Our soldiers don't "hit the ground raping" either. Our government makes stupid decisions but generally speaking our soldiers follow their inherently stupid orders and conduct themselves as well as anyone else.

There are always bad actors in any group, to judge them all by a few bad actors is short sighted and ignorant. To acknowledge that fact though would require you to rethink your anti American prejudice and we both know that irrational prejudice doesn't require thought. 
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CNN report about Airstrike on Lugansk.

http://vk.com/video211957138_168749883
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I havent seen anything today about this in the newspapers.
Or on the Western online news websites, ofcourse Russia today is also from Putin
So if we can trust them is a different story to.
But I like them because they touch subjects most newstations dont dare to cover.
legendary
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^^^ Now with the OSCE observes (who are known to be having pro-NATO views) having confirmed the Lugansk aerial bombing, the Kiev junta will be left without much PR options.
legendary
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Confirmed: Ukrainian air force fired over 150 missiles at Lugansk, bombed admin HQ
http://rt.com/news/163352-ukraine-airstrike-lugansk-missiles/

Kiev uses the same tactical guide as US:
1. Deny.
2. If denying becomes impossible, twist the facts.
3. If twisting the facts becomes impossible, tell the truth or a part of it.

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Kiev has admitted showering the eastern Ukrainian city of Lugansk with dozens of missiles from the air, saying that its Air Force helicopters and jets “fired more than 150 missiles” in Monday’s military action.
legendary
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Didn't see anything in german TV, but it's mentioned on the web site:
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-gefechte100.html
They are quoting someone from Lugansk: at least two killed and 10 wounded people

Good... even earlier I had stated that some of the German media sources are unafraid to post the truth, unlike their counterparts in the United States and the United Kingdom.
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
The financial times is also reporting but in the middle of another news and with the title calling attention to rebel attacks on border posts and new attempts of infiltration of military support from Russia:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b86e8ca4-ea23-11e3-afb3-00144feabdc0.html

Anyway, even if these bombings are condemnable, I wouldn't call them a "carpet bombing".
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Didn't see anything in german TV, but it's mentioned on the web site:
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-gefechte100.html
They are quoting someone from Lugansk: at least two killed and 10 wounded people

Danke.

There is written about some explosion in Building, not about multiple explosions and non exploded bombs.
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None of the Western news media outlets have covered the carpet bombing of Lugansk. Everyone is covering the battle near the border post in Lugansk, but all are silent on the aerial bombardment.
Didn't see anything in german TV, but it's mentioned on the web site:
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-gefechte100.html
They are quoting someone from Lugansk: at least two killed and 10 wounded people
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legendary
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I don't see RT as being the most unbiased distributor of this kind of information.

Who direct You to see RT.com?
http://anna-news.info/

AnnaNews does not respond... In the meantime RT is not unbiased, yet, they do a good job of fact checking.

The article about the airstrike on RT:
http://rt.com/news/163076-ukraine-lugansk-clashes-jet/
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I don't see RT as being the most unbiased distributor of this kind of information.

Who direct You to see RT.com?
http://anna-news.info/
legendary
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In spite of the lack of media coverage of this event in general, somehow I don't see RT as being the most unbiased distributor of this kind of information.
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