Topic: No time to waste - US has to act now to reverse climate change trend (Read 517 times)

But many parts of climate change will essentially change themselves. For example, the penguin colonies flying down to South America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEuIZ0Vwmg

The solution is to have a small number of 'big people' controlling a large number of 'small people'.

The solution comes before the problem, and the problem is designed and marketed such that the only feasible solution is the one which started the ball rolling.  So called 'climate change' will vanish as quickly as it appeared once the solution (a technocratic control grid) is put in place.  Problems which exist as a result of a marketing campaign of sowing panic and fear on top of bogus 'science' are exceptionally easy and cheap to 'solve'.  The difficulty and expense is 'front loaded' at 'problem creation time.'

Climate change is something small people can't control. But we can make small steps against the waste problem.

I have a great idea!

Maybe if we all joined in a single world government under the people who developed their family wealth during the industrial revolution (and sometimes before) that would solve the problem of 'rouge countries' not de-industrializing fast enough.  They could manage things without all that pesky voting and citizen representation and such-like which would be much more 'efficient'.  They cannot stop talking about solving the 'overpopulation problem' either so I'm sure they have some good ideas in that realm.

Said families seem to know everything there is to know about 'global climate change' and how to 'solve the problem'...the problem they dreamed up in the 1960's...  I guess our only hope is to trust them to run things for the betterment of humankind and the planet.  After all, this class of people (owners of Standard Oil, Halliburton, Bayer/Monsanto, etc) have never done anything counterproductive to well being of the peeps or to harm and pollute the environment in the past.  Why would they start now after we put all of our trust in them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCHyP8sj92g

Obama's science czar John Holdren was one of the 'science advisors' in that propaganda film.  As one studies this stuff, it's actually a relatively small group of players, and an even smaller group of capitalists who fund the projects (which they get tax breaks for.)

That's a nice wish but no one is going to do that. Any country that makes a serious effort towards decreasing their emissions will undoubtedly harm their economy, and the result of their decrease of emissions will be dispursed amongst everyone, including all the countries that didn't do anything (and even those that increased their emissions). You can't convince any political leader that the right thing to do is destroy their country so that everyone else can survive, especially when their country isn't even a major contributor to GHG emissions. Even if it were, major emitters don't have that large a share of the pie either.

It's not only on the USA to reverse the climate change. Every country has to participate. Yes some countries can do more like the USA, Europe, China, Russia, India and other countries have less possibilities to reduce CO2 levels. I wish USA would take a leadership role in combating climate change but this seems very unlikely at the moment, especially since corona pandemic became climate change not important anymore.
So if USA is not acting on everyone's interest, the other countries should go ahead and be a good example. With a combined international approach we could try and convince USA to join. If Europe! China and Russia would work more together it would be a start.

Yes, the alarmists don't want to let it be known that man isn't BADDDDDDD.

Here's a recent abstract to a study that agrees with your opinion.

An atmospheric CO2 residence time is determined from a carbon cycle which assumes that anthropogenic emissions only marginally disturb the preindustrial equilibrium dynamics of source/atmosphere/sink fluxes. This study explores the plausibility of this concept, which results in much shorter atmospheric residence times, 4–5 years, than the magnitude larger outcomes of the usual global carbon cycle models which are adjusted to fit the assumption that anthropogenic emissions are primarily the cause of the observed rise in atmospheric CO2. The continuum concept is consistent with the record of the seasonal photosynthesis swing of atmospheric CO2 which supports a residence time of about 5 years, as also does the bomb C14 decay history. The short residence time suggests that anthropogenic emissions contribute only a fraction of the observed atmospheric rise, and that other sources need be sought.

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https://doi.org/10.1016/0360-5442(93)90017-8

The economic downturn due to COVID may possibly be used to measure the decrease in CO2 during that period and determine what the actual Co2 reference time is.

The climate scammers overestimated the residence time for CO2 by orders of magnitude in order to give there panic stampede legs, but even they didn't try to go THAT far.

Here's real science on residence time for this CO2 trace gas which is much in demand by plants who compete strongly with one another for what little is around...and which are starving for it since we are at historically low levels of atmospheric CO2.  It's less than what a lot of plant species had evolved to expect, and many of them have been out-competed and have gone extinct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8niiyDn2FI

Unfortunately, very few 2020 people will be able to follow and understand the above lecture even though it is quite clear.  30 or 40 years ago a lot more people would be able to follow it based on my experiences over this span.  'They' had to destroy the educational system and most likely the ability of peoples brains to work effectively by other means before they could run the climate change scam.  And as best I can tell, that they did.

Climate change isn't anything new and it's not in the hands of the US only. It's all our duty as we own and share the ecosystem. The issue seems to be a matter of neglect as it haven't gotten to it's peek in such a way that, even the illiterate can follow through on it's trend without been told.
But then, when it gets there, it just might have been too late. So, let's do the little we can in our little ways to keep up with the mitigation of it's causal agents.

There is a great deal of hydrogen in our atmosphere.

I don't know why you are talking about hydrogen when there is barely any of it in our atmosphere.   No one said carbon dioxide was the only gas with a greenhouse effect.  The context is that we are releasing carbon dioxide on a planetary scale and significantly increasing its long-term concentration in our atmosphere.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/#:~:text=Once%20it's%20added%20to%20the,timescale%20of%20many%20human%20lives.

CO2 we release stays in the atmosphere for 300-1000 years while water vapor spends on average 9 days (but up to 3000 years in the ocean)

It's the vibration of the C=O bonds in CO2 that absorbs frequencies in a couple niches of the spectrum that is the actual science behind the sputtering about carbon that these agitators go on about.

Sure, they don't know what they are talking about, but you can do better.

well if you truly want to stick with the fallacy of carbon being so active. may i ask you to go to all science nerds and debunk why hydrogen is such an active element.
also then go to nasa and and tell them they have wasted billions on the space station because they should have used carbon instead of hydrogen. tel hem how they could have made it thinner using carbon
(satire/sarcasm)
or.
look into what hydrogen does that carbon doesnt. and the realise the science thats not talked about by media

oh and i do hope you done the 2 glass experiment

oh and to add to the 2 glass on floor experiment. also get a lump of activated charcoal. breath it up into a dust and then blow it across the same floor separate from your water experiment. and then use a thermometer
then smoke s cigar and exhale in the area and use a thermometer.

then wait 5 minutes and use a thermometer on all the experiments.
then 40 minutes then 120 minutes

then check your results on what has affected the temperatures the most.

for most smart people they will know that the water has more effect. but try it just to be sure.
and if you still dont believe the results. then you can go to nasa and tell them they are wrong even if your opinion disagrees with your own experiments and their science
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look i do get it you think if you put 3 squares down
one with nothing
one covered in water
one covered in carbon dust

the carbon one MIGHT have a slight increase in temperature compared to the square with nothing
but here is the thing water will cause a more dramatic temperature change

and its the water cycle that has changed the most and impacting itself to cause more change due to the triggers of human involvement

Here is an area of agreement we likely have, there is a terribly unscientific tendency to blame every single climatic event on "climate change." Causes unlearning of basic facts.

some science

https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/918614

if carbon was super effective. they would be using carbon. and only needing 100x less thickness of it.. but that aint happening.

so enjoy learning more about the hydrogen/water balance and its effects

when you look at news of 'climate change is drying up ganges river'
but then when you google ganges river drying up without the words climate change attached
you start reading about the dams put in from 1970. then the ground water pumps. and then the cycle of reactions

its a worthy read when you start to look for other causes and stop just trying to find carbon links

Yeah, they've been saying that since Al Gore was VP. They just called it global warming back then.  Proved incorrect, the liberals needed to rename it,,,climate change.  Well shit, the earths climate has been changing for millions of years 

Giving money to governments will not halt climate change.

The legal restrictions on emissions, and voluntary actions taken in the last 2 decades has done more to help than any tax/fee/green deal ever could.

And the US is the leading voluntary compliance location making the largest positive effect, while other countries don't care and still increase pollution levels

The scarcest commodity in the world is high IQ problem solvers.

In some countries reproduction of human being were being controlled by their government because they are overpopulated. Other countries are welcoming other citizens for them to get more population. This is how ironic people living on earth this include the access to contraceptives as causes to reproductive meaning that you country is not populated yet. Your government must be asking other citizen to visit your place, stay and even offer jobs and payment. Hopefully one day I could go in your place.

I would also add improved child nutrition and access to contraceptives as root causes of a decreasing reproductive rate. My main point was that as people climb out of poverty, they clean up their act and may even produce some geniuses who innovate and solve hard problems. It's not a matter of decreasing your usage of resources, it's a matter of improving the efficiency at which you use those resources, which is what Spendulus mentioned earlier .