North Korea Gets Ready For War - page 2.

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Quote from: cryptocoiner on August 23, 2015, 01:50:12 PM

North Korea Gets Ready For War? LOL, they've probably out of food again. And they just asking for additional gumanitarian aid this way.
"Ok they've stop paying. Lets fire at them couple times again. Make them feed us again. "

If you think that North Korea doesn't have a military force because people do not have food, think again. Let me pull up some statistics here:
North Korea has:

About ~690k active military personnel (ranked 5th in the World)
Total naval power of 1 061 (ranked 1st, more than 2x of what USA has)
Aircraft strength ranked 10th
Tank strength ranked 7th

However, some of these might be estimates and are just based on publicly available information. Here is a comparison of South Korea and North Korea.
The country should not be underestimated.

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North Korea Gets Ready For War? LOL, they've probably out of food again. And they just asking for additional gumanitarian aid this way.
"Ok they've stop paying. Lets fire at them couple times again. Make them feed us again. "

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 21, 2015, 07:38:43 AM

I think there is no danger that this incident turn into new war.
What happened is a common situation that is repeated every year at this time.
Kim must show strength and power, and prove to his citizens that he is still strong and unyielding and has everything under control.
Such situations are excellent for mobilization of hungry and desperate people in N. Korea.
This situation is an artificially caused for the purpose of Kim and his regime, and certainly will not escalate into a new war.

Agreed. There's been "acts of aggression" in the Sea of Japan before, no?

Kim must show strength but does anyone here believe Kim could follow through with war threats or endure a war for very long? I feel like their war machine is very, very light on men, intelligence, and ability to fight for sustained periods of time.

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Quote from: Snorek on August 23, 2015, 12:12:44 PM

I think this 'propaganda' was the truth instead of usual lies they are fed by official North Korea's authorities.

Almost all the governments in the world (including the one which is ruling United States right now) lie to their citizens, and North Korea is no exception to this. But that doesn't mean that South Korea has the right to propagate their radio channels to North Korea and try to provoke the civilians living there in to some sort of a revolt against Kim Jong Un.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 21, 2015, 12:58:56 PM

Quote from: syndria on August 21, 2015, 02:32:34 AM

North korea never wanted peace, they kill ther citizens who tries to escape north korea, who tries to phone call anyone outside north korea, and so many more

Normally it is the North Korean armed forces which creates the provocations. But in this case, it was South Korea which created the initial provocation. They started their propaganda broadcasts towards the DPRK villages and towns, using radio stations which are very close to the international border. DPRK retaliated, destroying the radio stations.

And the real question is - it was propaganda of South Korea or truth regarding status of life in North Korea compared to other nations? North Korea is regime is lying, people live in fear and doubt.
I think this 'propaganda' was the truth instead of usual lies they are fed by official North Korea's authorities.

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yeah North Korea is skew with Russia, and South Korea with USA.
arent they conscious about that. if the two country is controlled by the two big country?
and USA and South Korea have preparation 8 jet fighter to storm North Korea.
will be new drama we can saw it. what we can to do?

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Quote from: jayce on August 23, 2015, 12:35:38 AM

But for North Korea, I think they built nukes just because Kim Jong-un want to destroy US.

Here is the problem. DPRK is estimated to be in the possession of somewhere between 15 and 25 nuclear weapons. But their ballistic missiles are not powerful enough to strike the mainland United States. So what they will do in case of a war? They will nuke the allies of the United States in the region, such as Japan and South Korea.

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Quote from: valvalis on August 22, 2015, 03:40:51 AM

Quote from: hedgy73 on August 21, 2015, 02:09:17 AM

That's pretty worrying. I hate the thought of a major modern war who knows what weapons could be used Sad

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That's right, we should banning nuclear and biological weapon.

Nowadays, world governments prefer to make weapons instead of banning that to make a 'peaceful world'. Not a good choice, but there is no better way if your neighbor countries have those weapons, so your country have to make one too. But for North Korea, I think they built nukes just because Kim Jong-un want to destroy US.

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North Korea is all posturing, no one should be worried about this.

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Quote from: valvalis on August 22, 2015, 03:40:51 AM

That's right, we should banning nuclear and biological weapon.

Well... the superpowers will never agree to that (including Israel). For them, they should be having the freedom of using the nuclear weapons, while none of the other nations should attempt to create these sort of weapons themselves. Some good progress was being made by Jimmy Carter a few decades ago.. but his achievements were destroyed by warmongers such as Hillary Clinton.

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Quote from: hedgy73 on August 21, 2015, 02:09:17 AM

That's pretty worrying. I hate the thought of a major modern war who knows what weapons could be used Sad

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That's right, we should banning nuclear and biological weapon.

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Quote from: Karpeles on August 21, 2015, 09:08:32 PM

They said that they started the broadcast because they accused the north of putting some mines in the unmilitarized zone that wounded some southern soldiers

and as far I know no radio station has been destroyed

The landmine incident occurred in the no-man's land, which is outside the territorial borders of South Korea. It is a very heavily mined locality. There is no proof that the mines in question were recently planted. The North Korean officials have already issued a statement claiming that they were not behind the incident.

And you were right about the radio stations. It was loudspeakers (used for high-decibel propaganda broadcasts) which were destroyed, and not the radio stations.

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That's probably some specific method to beg for more humanitarian rations and so on. That should mean to the normal countries feed us or we'll make trouble

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According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies' military balance, approximately 65% of North Korea's military units, and up to 80% of its estimated aggregate firepower are within 100km of the DMZ.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on August 21, 2015, 08:35:27 AM

Quote from: jayce on August 21, 2015, 03:58:49 AM

I don't know if UN has responded this situation right now, since its general secretary is a Korean, Ban Ki-moon. Its could be a trigger for World War III if no country can't calm this situation down.

There won't be WWIII over Korean border. The last Korean war didn't do it and so won't the next. Kim is childish but not suicidal, he's just marking his territory.

But everything could happen, its because like you said, Kim is childish. I'm not sure all nukes and other weapons he has prepared just for Korean war.

Quote from: ummina on August 21, 2015, 11:38:47 PM

i hope this war can be stoped.
what the trigger from the two country,
i have watching Korea Drama The King Two Heart. mat be north Korea and SOuth Korea, and take this to learning,
from this Drama we know is South Korea dont want to have hostile with South korea.
whats gonna we can do bring to 2 countys if they is manipulate from the country SUPER POWER in this earth?

I'm not sure a drama could change Kim Jong-Un mind, and I think there is no manipulating in this situation. Its just a pride problem between both country.

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i hope this war can be stoped.
what the trigger from the two country,
i have watching Korea Drama The King Two Heart. mat be north Korea and SOuth Korea, and take this to learning,
from this Drama we know is South Korea dont want to have hostile with South korea.
whats gonna we can do bring to 2 countys if they is manipulate from the country SUPER POWER in this earth?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 21, 2015, 12:58:56 PM

Quote from: syndria on August 21, 2015, 02:32:34 AM

North korea never wanted peace, they kill ther citizens who tries to escape north korea, who tries to phone call anyone outside north korea, and so many more

Normally it is the North Korean armed forces which creates the provocations. But in this case, it was South Korea which created the initial provocation. They started their propaganda broadcasts towards the DPRK villages and towns, using radio stations which are very close to the international border. DPRK retaliated, destroying the radio stations.

they said that they started the broadcast because they accused the north of putting some mines in the unmilitarized zone that wounded some southern soldiers

and as far I know no radio station has been destroyed

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Nothing... This has been going on for years...

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Quote from: Lethn on August 21, 2015, 02:53:55 PM

North Korea is like the British chavs we have over here, they're always trying to pick a fight and will trash talk everybody but in the end they're full of shit, I doubt they'll invade, it's probably going to be Kim Jong Un's way of showing strength for the sake of internal politics. Never forget, for all their nationalism and brainwashing, North Korea is China's bitch, if they step out of line then China would simply cut off support, I doubt they're that closely allied.

It would take something extremely serious to properly trigger a war between north and south Korea again.

Unless the US really screws up, these situations can be handled.
Sabre rattling, once in a while, by North Korea is expected.

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