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legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
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full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 103
September 20, 2018, 06:21:37 AM
#28
[<...>I also noticed that if you want to get merits is to contribute on the forum by having sensible conversations without using a "Signature" because "Signature" implies selfish agendas. For this specific reason, I won't wear any signatures (after UBEX) to have better conversations and learn. This is only my point of view and would try to prove, DYOR, this is not a financial advice LOL
I would say that signature is not an issue in general; it is the post’s content that matters. I mean the spam problem is due to people not being able to post decent content, incentivized by the signature’s requirements in terms of number of posts per week. But the signature is more of a passive actor, and it is really up to the poster to create decent enough content.

So @matthewoz101 already did the same thing and according to statistics conducted by you (@DdmrDdmr), it is proven that signature has nothing to deal with this and it's a good news for me not taking the same mistake that could last for months. Now the question still lies on "How could I post better content", maybe I'd take more time to read and spend more time to make this forum my "chill" place rather than social media channels.


Thank you for these references given.
newbie
Activity: 252
Merit: 0
September 20, 2018, 06:05:32 AM
#27
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)

Why you have not remove legendary members from your website (They have got all reputation when there is no merit point system )

Now let look at scammers who are creating new accounts and sending points

You can check out this profile

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alanst-2243418

Only 2 post and 2 points

I am happy If you remove legendary members who have only got merit points before merit system.
it is simple yout post not quality or you don't lucky to get merit from admin or source merit,I have >300 posst and i can't get merit from anyone,sometime i ask my self my post not quality? u try my best to post,no spam,but i see now it is too difficult to get merit,i see some post very normal but they get merit,i hear merit can buy from someone,I can't beleibe it on this forum but it is true,nothing is fair,maybe we have to accept this true,I am so disaointed
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 3045
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September 20, 2018, 06:03:34 AM
#26
Why do you expect to receive merits and all you are doing is joining bounty campaigns and submitting reports!!!

Keep the good work and you will be listed in this list: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hunt-for-the-no-merit-highest-post-count-record-0-merit-3139-posts-5033383  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
September 20, 2018, 05:47:57 AM
#25
[<...>I also noticed that if you want to get merits is to contribute on the forum by having sensible conversations without using a "Signature" because "Signature" implies selfish agendas. For this specific reason, I won't wear any signatures (after UBEX) to have better conversations and learn. This is only my point of view and would try to prove, DYOR, this is not a financial advice LOL
In June 2018, @matthewoz101 created a thread about the relation on merit of signatures (see Is it easier to earn Merit without a signature?). On the thread, I checked this relation out (see re: Is it easier to earn Merit without a signature?), and there didn’t seem to be one. For Heroes and Legendries it had a positive impact, but surely not for the signature itself, but due to their posting habits (quality + more posts).

I would say that signature is not an issue in general; it is the post’s content that matters. I mean the spam problem is due to people not being able to post decent content, incentivized by the signature’s requirements in terms of number of posts per week. But the signature is more of a passive actor, and it is really up to the poster to create decent enough content.
full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 103
September 20, 2018, 05:19:43 AM
#24

I have now got the same amount of posts as you, and our accounts were created a few weeks apart. Once on the forum, you can take many paths and even swerve direction as I promptly did (frankly, I looked at bounties at the beginning as an experiment, and soon got bored of them since they were not too challenging, and I felt a bit like a non-automated bot following idiotic routines - but that's just me).
You decided to go down a bounty path which has I presume has given you a lot of shit-coins (with a lot of luck, some are worth something), and are likely to be way richer in that sense than me. I decided to try to find my place here, and eventually found a spot that I though could be helpful, while performing tasks that served as brain trainers.

The number of posts is irrelevant, it’s what you add to them that matters...


Exactly!  
I also noticed that if you want to get merits is to contribute on the forum by having sensible conversations without using a "Signature" because "Signature" implies selfish agendas. For this specific reason, I won't wear any signatures (after UBEX) to have better conversations and learn. This is only my point of view and would try to prove, DYOR, this is not a financial advice LOL
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
September 20, 2018, 04:33:53 AM
#23
You're also not a fan of changes and taking advice from others, right ?
10 or more people have told you that shitposting won't earn you any merit and what is the first thing you do after posting here?

Well..you pick one mega thread full of useless replies and on the 30 or so page you post this jewel:

Government announce illegal due to peoples losing their money due to scams and frauds and bitcoin makes heaven for scammers.

Congratulation!  /s

Some are just a lost cause Cry
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
September 20, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
#22
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)<...>
I have now got the same amount of posts as you, and our accounts were created a few weeks apart. Once on the forum, you can take many paths and even swerve direction as I promptly did (frankly, I looked at bounties at the beginning as an experiment, and soon got bored of them since they were not too challenging, and I felt a bit like a non-automated bot following idiotic routines - but that's just me).
You decided to go down a bounty path which has I presume has given you a lot of shit-coins (with a lot of luck, some are worth something), and are likely to be way richer in that sense than me. I decided to try to find my place here, and eventually found a spot that I though could be helpful, while performing tasks that served as brain trainers.

The number of posts is irrelevant, it’s what you add to them that matters...
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
September 20, 2018, 04:12:39 AM
#21
Just follow the rules, I am sure they still award merits, not by post counts but by quality of posts and at their own discretion- that is based on their own assessment.No guarantees,no hard feelings, no "I am entitled to have it".
I read this, it could be relevant to you. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/enhanced-newbie-restrictions-requirements-5030366
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 3060
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September 20, 2018, 04:03:42 AM
#20
Re: Not Fan of Merit Point System

We're not a fan of the thousands of people that have destroyed the forum by coming here just to spam on dozens of alt accounts each which I'm sure you are one of. One merit is barely anything, but it is probably a big something is when you've got dozens-hundreds-thousands of accounts. That pretty much means you're screwed.


I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)




You haven't wrote over 800 posts. They're mostly bounty reports. Maybe if you actually put some effort into contributing here then you would get some merit. Maybe give that a go instead of whining.

Why you have not remove legendary members from your website (They have got all reputation when there is no merit point system )

But what about all the excellent posts they made before the merit system that they didn't get the chance to be merited for? That is even more unfair. I wouldn't be against everyone starting at zero either, but why don't you concern yourself with your own posts rather than others as moaning at them to be demoted still won't help you or get you anywhere. One day I hope that all signatures are removed completely until you have earned something like 500-1000 merit. Then users like you really would be screwed. Would that make you happy? Of course not. You'd be back here in Meta hysterically crying.

Now let look at scammers who are creating new accounts and sending points

You can check out this profile

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alanst-2243418

Only 2 post and 2 points

I am happy If you remove legendary members who have only got merit points before merit system.

I wouldn't have merited that post but I see nothing wrong with other doing so either. The irony here is that user didn't need the merit as he purchased the copper account anyway and also actually wrote something better than what you currently have.
copper member
Activity: 462
Merit: 10
September 20, 2018, 03:50:42 AM
#19
well i am still litttle bit confused about the merit saga, and how some members strugle to get atleaste 1. i love how strict the forum is but some things need be amended
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1624
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September 20, 2018, 03:45:50 AM
#18
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)

Why you have not remove legendary members from your website (They have got all reputation when there is no merit point system )

Now let look at scammers who are creating new accounts and sending points

You can check out this profile

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alanst-2243418

Only 2 post and 2 points

I am happy If you remove legendary members who have only got merit points before merit system.

Your posts are mostly Twitter reports! How do you honestly expect to have merit for pages and pages of twitter links?? My advice is to clean up you history and start building from zero.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1164
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September 20, 2018, 03:44:37 AM
#17
All the posts from complaining Newbies without any merit prove the system works. I don't think bounty spammers will ever get a vote in it.
I found Newbie with 2800 posts and 0 merit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xgeravalerax-1463210
What do you think if forum will restrict all newbies to post active links? This might help with the massive spam.


I find this suggestion very interesting and might actually help on reducing countless bounty reports posted on a daily basis on this forum.
Although, I think admins should take a few weeks before another restriction is placed since most newbies still haven't coped with the recent restrictions that theymos have implemented.
Let us see first if requiring 1 merit would be enough to stop them.
jr. member
Activity: 79
Merit: 3
September 20, 2018, 03:43:44 AM
#16
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)

Why you have not remove legendary members from your website (They have got all reputation when there is no merit point system )

Now let look at scammers who are creating new accounts and sending points

You can check out this profile

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alanst-2243418

Only 2 post and 2 points

I am happy If you remove legendary members who have only got merit points before merit system.
I've seen your post history, it's just a bounty
Look at this profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xgeravalerax-1463210
You can not compare with him, and of course you will not receive any merit at all.
member
Activity: 168
Merit: 24
September 20, 2018, 03:21:59 AM
#15
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)
Nice work for bounty hunter to m but for this forum are you haven't given anything useful. Enjoy the newbie hell dude while you can't change. Don't look another people, but look at yourself.

hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 647
September 20, 2018, 02:12:18 AM
#14
Do you understand already how the merit system works and its purpose? You seem confused based on your last thread

Why merit point owner should give his earned tokens to other users.

I do not need merit point, keep them in your cold wallet ....

With the responses you got from that thread, you should know by now that tokens are irrelevant to Merit points. If still not, then don't create new threads to whine and just make sure to read and understand about the system first.
jr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 3
September 20, 2018, 02:09:10 AM
#13
If newbies will not be able to publish reports with active links, then they will have to communicate with other users on the forum to rank up to earn the right to post bounty reports.
This will complicate the work of the account farmers and will help get rid of a ton of pointless posts.
Get rid of a ton of meaningless messages could have been prohibiting bounty companies from accepting reports in the branches. To do this, you can create Google-forms. And so, in what me, have limited? In the subscription? It's just a job in one company. in which you need to publish 10 messages. And the companies themselves did not take spam messages in their reports, only constructive ones!
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 2
September 20, 2018, 01:59:12 AM
#12
Now here is something for the OP, prior to this new merit system,i never opened a thread in meta section,nor goggled to learn about cryptocurrency,but all that has changed in just three days,as you can go through all my posts,and I even earned a merit,it maybe just one though😂but I feel if I continue this way,ill definitely earn more merits..
 So a big thumbs up to theymos and the big guns,i now look for quality topics and not just making 15 shit posts a week.
  You should do same OP
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 1
September 20, 2018, 01:07:03 AM
#11
I have wrote over 800 post still have not got a single merit point
JR Member to Newbie (WOW)

In your post most of them or 90% of them are bounty reports, if you are telling that post is counting to get merits then everyone will get easy merit. Everyone will make spam post just to reach that said amount, then that's the reason why they are implementing 1 merit for Jr. Member, due to spamming nonsense post. So weekly bounty report is not acceptable as a good post. That's the plan, never expect any merit and forget about this thing. And that time you'll get yours.

You can make upgrade of your self by paying to be cooper member:
Take a look of this, a small amount will help you understand.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newbies-can-now-pay-a-small-fee-to-enable-images-2385104

have a nice day.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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September 20, 2018, 12:45:56 AM
#10
I am happy that you are pissed off. now make your posts better or leave, surely 800 posts and 0 merit is proof that your posts are shit.
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