notblox1 vs AB de Royse777 controversy discussion thread - page 2.

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Quote from: NotATether on September 12, 2024, 06:35:10 AM

In that case it would've made more sense for you to create a locked topic instead of a self-moderated one.

It's just like that. If you only want PMs sent to you, you open the thread, you lock it and if you want you bump it every 24 hours. But you don't open a self moderated thread and delete almost all replies, because if you only want PMs it's also not understandable why you left two replies in your thread.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 11, 2024, 03:15:40 PM

I said in my topic that I dont like wasting time talking about other members, unlike pokerplayer, and I only asked people to contact me if they have been damaged by royse.

In that case it would've made more sense for you to create a locked topic instead of a self-moderated one.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 11, 2024, 02:48:41 PM

Not really sure what happened between them and I'm not really interested. But for me it's a bit strange behaviour when you ask question or opinion and when you get responses, you delete it. But it's self-moderated topics, you shouldn't be surprised when such things happens.

It’s expected for posts to get deleted in that thread, especially if you don’t have any relevant business there. If you read through the thread, you can see ;

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Have you ever been damaged, lied or hurt in any way as a forum member or a company after dealing with manager Royse?
If that is the case please contact me and send all the information and evidence you have against him.

He/she is just looking for forum members who claim to have been deceived by Royse. If you haven’t been deceived, then you don’t have any business getting involved. This issue seems personal between them, in my opinion. If someone really wanted to create a thread in the reputation section, it should have complete details so we can offer opinions based on facts. If it's a scam accusation, it would be better to make it formal with evidence. But there isn’t much substance here, so it feels more personal, and the claims aren’t solid enough to destroy Royse's reputation.

This is just my personal opinion, and I could be wrong. However, it’s better to keep the conversation formal with proper evidence; otherwise, it just becomes gossip with no end. After all, we’re here to follow the rules and contribute positively to the forum.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 11, 2024, 08:42:48 PM

Far as the notblox situation goes, for the most part a manager has the final say. If you don't like his say, take it up with them through pm. If they outright scammed you it's different, but this is not an outright scam. Just don't join anymore of that managers bounties if you don't like the way they manage. My 2 cents anyways.

This I think should have done by him. If he doesnt get reward for that campaign means his not eligible for the task he done and from there he should have accepted it if ever theres a complain surely you dont wanna publicly rant it out and make things personal all the way.

Well based on the thread on altcointalks it seems theres more to it than just the reward.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on September 11, 2024, 06:17:39 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on September 11, 2024, 05:39:18 PM

I personally do not think that the neutral tag is worth it. I read your post in his self moderated thread, it was very much on topic and doesn't deserve to be deleted. My own post was also deleted by him but I took it in a good fate.
If you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be willing to accept harsh moderation

I will remove the neutral tag after a week when everyone would have seen it.

Why leave the tag at all if you are going to delete it after a week? If the tag is justified, then leave it, no point in removing it after you think enough have viewed it. The only time to remove a tag soon after placing it is maybe if a scam accusation pops up on a user and you feel the accusation needs acknowledged. I have left a couple for sites when a user seems to have a case and the site needs to reply.

Far as the notblox situation goes, for the most part a manager has the final say. If you don't like his say, take it up with them through pm. If they outright scammed you it's different, but this is not an outright scam. Just don't join anymore of that managers bounties if you don't like the way they manage. My 2 cents anyways.

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 11, 2024, 05:39:18 PM

I personally do not think that the neutral tag is worth it. I read your post in his self moderated thread, it was very much on topic and doesn't deserve to be deleted. My own post was also deleted by him but I took it in a good fate.
If you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be willing to accept harsh moderation

Harsh moderation from a poster that is not reputed. But good moderation from a reputed poster. I think that is how it could be. If such topic was posted by a newbie, I would not have posted if it is self-moderated. Many of us might not have posted. Also the neutral tag is harmless. Just a warning to let people know that their post could likely be deleted. I wanted not to give the neutral tag but almost all posts are getting deleted. I will remove the neutral tag after a week when everyone would have seen it.

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 11, 2024, 06:08:58 PM

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Suppose.. Tomorrow I make a thread against someone on the forum a self moderated one, and delete every post that doesn’t suit my agenda except members who have a powerful profile (because they can use their influence against me in at present or in future)

If you do this, it is fine and not against the rule. Don't undermine the power of self moderation. If you feel that the starter of the self moderated thread is grossly biased and doesn't encourage freedom of speech, you are free to open a parallel topic such as Poker player has done.

Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 05:52:52 PM

Posts in self moderation threads should only be removed when they are spam, off-topic not to take advantage of it to push one sides agenda.

Posts in self moderated threads can be removed when the starter doesn't like your posts, when it goes against their rules even when they don't have a rule. His wife could annoy him and he comes in the forum and delete all the posts. When next you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be ready to accept harsh moderation.

The OP of self moderated thread can surely delete the posts he doesn’t like but it does tell about what kind of convo he wants, specially after not mentioning what he don’t want to hear and leaving the interpretation to the poster (This is done to hide the true intention or expecting others will write what you want)

He made his intention that he wants info in PM, he can lock down the thread and bump the thread to keep it visible but no he chose the second route.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on September 11, 2024, 05:41:49 PM

Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 05:00:23 PM

Xxx

Suppose.. Tomorrow I make a thread against someone on the forum a self moderated one, and delete every post that doesn’t suit my agenda except members who have a powerful profile (because they can use their influence against me in at present or in future)

If you do this, it is fine and not against the rule. Don't undermine the power of self moderation. If you feel that the starter of the self moderated thread is grossly biased and doesn't encourage freedom of speech, you are free to open a parallel topic such as Poker player has done.

Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 05:52:52 PM

Posts in self moderation threads should only be removed when they are spam, off-topic not to take advantage of it to push one sides agenda.

Posts in self moderated threads can be removed when the starter doesn't like your posts, when it goes against their rules even when they don't have a rule. His wife could annoy him and he comes in the forum and delete all the posts. When next you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be ready to accept harsh moderation.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on September 11, 2024, 05:41:49 PM

Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 05:00:23 PM

The guys is not telling what not to write in the thread, deleting the replies of users he thinks not helping him or prevent others from giving him proof against 🌹. He however didn’t delete Dave’s reply for some reason.

And not locking the thread.

Again, not playing devil's advocate here, but he did mention what he expected from his thread. Everything else can be considered off-topic according to his view. He has every right to delete whatever the hell he wants in his self-moderating thread. Just like anyone else can.

Suppose.. Tomorrow I make a thread against someone on the forum a self moderated one, and delete every post that doesn’t suit my agenda except members who have a powerful profile (because they can use their influence against me in at present or in future)

Posts in self moderation threads should only be removed when they are spam, off-topic not to take advantage of it to push one sides agenda.

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There could be many reasons why self-moderated threads are created. I currently actively support several threads that are self-moderated to keep spammers away and one of them is the Premier League thread. It was created in 2020 and as of now shows: 560 posts by 54 users with 2 merit deleted.

Keeping that aside, I noticed the self-moderated thread before many of the posts were deleted. If he had explained the rules clearly in his OP (in a way that did not leave room for multiple interpretations), the subsequent mess most probably would have been avoided.

Quote from: Stalker22 on September 11, 2024, 04:52:03 PM

I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads. Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion. Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 05:00:23 PM

The guys is not telling what not to write in the thread, deleting the replies of users he thinks not helping him or prevent others from giving him proof against 🌹. He however didn’t delete Dave’s reply for some reason.

And not locking the thread.

Again, not playing devil's advocate here, but he did mention what he expected from his thread. Everything else can be considered off-topic according to his view. He has every right to delete whatever the hell he wants in his self-moderating thread. Just like anyone else can.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on September 11, 2024, 01:25:42 PM

I posted on his thread. Some other people posted on his thread. He deleted most of the posts. I wished to have given him neutral trust as a warning for people to know how he is deleting people's posts on the self-moderated thread but I just do not want to be biased about it. But for what notblox1did by deleting people's posts and also moderating accusation thread again someone, I think he is out of his mind.

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I guess I have no option but to let people know not to post on that thread. He still keep deleting people's posts.

I personally do not think that the neutral tag is worth it. I read your post in his self moderated thread, it was very much on topic and doesn't deserve to be deleted. My own post was also deleted by him but I took it in a good fate.
If you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be willing to accept harsh moderation

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Quote from: Stalker22 on September 11, 2024, 04:52:03 PM

I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads. Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion. Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.

The guys is not telling what not to write in the thread, deleting the replies of users he thinks not helping him or prevent others from giving him proof against 🌹. He however didn’t delete Dave’s reply for some reason.

And not locking the thread.

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I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads. Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion. Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 11, 2024, 03:15:40 PM

This is going to be the my first and last post in this topic.

I said in my topic that I dont like wasting time talking about other members, unlike pokerplayer, and I only asked people to contact me if they have been damaged by royse.
I was not asking for conspiracy theory conversations about other members, speculations, cookbook recipes, guide how to stop being an addict, or anything else.
It is not my problem if someone doesnt understand that.

OP thank you for calling me a fool for being a moderator in my own self-moderated topic, and if you have nothing better to do in your life than talk about me if you want.

Grin

You could have said “I don’t enough proof to take down someone who didn’t pay me 30$ and if someone has something against the user I am targeting then please send it to me I can’t see them progress in life”

Btw what’s left to write in those 2 reserved posts after complaining that long.

You have a weird fetish of appreciating being called fool for making a thread.
It’s another thing you’re deleting on-topic replies from the users who are neutral/against the matter… The topic is supposed to talk on the matter.. You said “Contact me on the matter” could have locked the thread after your miserable post after it and keep on bumping it up in hope you get your revenge for not getting 30$.

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It's better to not make posts in threads that are self-moderated because in those thread you can't really share your honest opinion about an issue because if your opinion somehow offends the OP of the thread then that might gets deleted without any prior warning.

I personally try to avoid posting in self-moderated topics because it's just like waste of one's energy and nothing else. But, I believe that topics in reputation board should not be self-moderated as in that board everyone should be allowed to share their opinion fearlessly.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on September 11, 2024, 01:56:20 PM

When you raise allegations against someone or against an organisation, then the thread shouldn't be self-moderated. I saw yesterday that thread and ignored to respond there. If anyone has any complaints against Royse, then they should discuss it openly, it doesn't necessarily mean sending evidence or something else in DM. Problems could be solved in public discussion. If something is private, then it should be solved privately. However, personally, I don't have any issue with Royse, nor am I involved with any of his business.

Exactly and that was what I said in his thread and he deleted the comment. Such attitude is not really good. Poker Player thanks for this thread to discuss the guy. I wanted to create such thread only for me to this one. If notblox1 has issue with AB de Royse777, he doesn't need third party to provide evidence for him to use it to nail AB de Royse777 to the wall but he has to find the evidence by himself and if any other person has issues with AB de Royse777, the person should also create his or her own thread. Don't use another person evidence to accused person. notblox1 would have died the matter over there in the other forum. But extending it to this side shows that, he is not matured enough. If he wanted to discuss what happened there in this side then there was no need to delete other people comments again. With what he has displayed, he is an incompetent poster in the forum. Yes it is good to air his anger but it is not with this manner.

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This is going to be my first and last post in this topic.

I said in my topic that I dont like wasting time talking about other members, unlike pokerplayer, and I only asked people to contact me if they have been damaged by royse.
I was not asking for conspiracy theory conversations about other members, speculations, cookbook recipes, guide how to stop being an addict, or anything else.
It is not my problem if someone doesnt understand that.

OP thank you for calling me a fool for being a moderator in my own self-moderated topic, and if you have nothing better to do in your life than talk about me if you want.

Grin

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Not really sure what happened between them and I'm not really interested. But for me it's a bit strange behaviour when you ask question or opinion and when you get responses, you delete it. But it's self-moderated topics, you shouldn't be surprised when such things happens.

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Quote from: Coyster on September 11, 2024, 12:03:25 PM

Deleting posts that you don't like in a self moderated thread is not right, why start the thread in the first place if all you want to hear is what you like. If you start a thread against another user, you should leave it open for others to contribute.

I think thats right. Self moderated in my opinion has been there to let the OP clean up some possible spam and out of topic response to sort out the cleanliness of the subject.

But with regards with this one, its the opposite since he deleted mostly of the comment. Nobody wanted dispute on forum. I also commented on that and seen my post deleted too.

Quote from: worldofcoins on September 11, 2024, 02:11:37 PM

The guy is likely pissed for not getting 30$ for his review.

Yeah so the thread on altcointalks, it seems that the cause of heated drama. Anyway hope they settled it soon to lessen issues here.

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