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Topic: NOTROLL.IN admin overnight withdrew 25% of our coins from our balances ! - page 8. (Read 18334 times)

hero member
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I'd have to say this is prime scammer tag material unfortunately.
newbie
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What others have been voicing is exactly what I've been trying to say in my posts.  If this pool was treated like a real business, ran by a competent owner, this would never fly.  Business 101, if you make a mistake, you pay for it, not your employees, not your customers.  If you noticed that you were losing money because of a mistake you made on the pool and needed to take immediate action, maybe a better option would have been to shut it down temporarily until you could get it fixed rather then just take funds from people to cover your own ass.  The excuse that no one bothered to contact you to mention the double payment just doesn't cut it.  It's your responsibility to keep tabs on the way your pool operates.  How would any of us know we were getting double paid considering this pool has been running so shaky lately?  As others mentioned, maybe a lot of people just thought the problems were finally fixed and we were getting what we should.  Anyways, your entire tone in these threads is just insulting to your miners.  Fess up to your mistake, make it right with everyone, if you have to eat the costs a bit, well, maybe lesson learned for you and you'll be a little more careful in the future.

Maybe it's time someone just put this up in the Scam thread and let it get sorted out there?

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full member
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You sir, are living in a dream world.

I know right, it's much easier to not take responsibility for your actions. Good that you took the hard road there of stealing peoples funds to pay for your mistake. Bravo!
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25% of 0 is .... 0 lost. Why would anyone keep coins floating on a pool that could crash or rob you at any minute? Lesson learned for some people.

Many people were unable to cash out for days due to a site "bug", and then because notroll.in's payout wallet was apparently empty.
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Nick if you want to cash out send me a PM.

I will purchase the pool outright.
member
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It was only the wind.
I'm confused why you keep so many Ltc in your pool account. My payout threshold is 1 and so should everyone else's. Same reason I don't keep btc on mtgox o or ltc on btc-e.  Huh

Yes, she deserved the rape, look at how she was dressed.

a) He didn't say that he deserved it, only that it was strange he kept that much in his pool account.

b) Not the best comparison. Dressing a certain way is one thing, keeping large amounts of funds with pools and exchange sites is begging to be stolen from. Perhaps a better statement would be, "Yes, she deserved the rape, because she walked down a dark alley at 3am in the worst part of town with nothing on."
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Don't dwell in the past, don't dream of the future
25% of 0 is .... 0 lost. Why would anyone keep coins floating on a pool that could crash or rob you at any minute? Lesson learned for some people.
sr. member
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Lol, so i should even give the users that got paid 2.5 days it back. Come on, srsly ? Remember when btcguild paid out 1250BTC too much ...
And no it's not that easy to tell who got paid double, there is no diffrence in the db if a user is using stratum or getwork.

Yes you should pay back _everyone_ you took money from. Like you said you can't tell who did benefit and who didn't. It was your mistake you should pay for it.
You sir, are living in a dream world.
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Lol, so i should even give the users that got paid 2.5 days it back. Come on, srsly ? Remember when btcguild paid out 1250BTC too much ...
And no it's not that easy to tell who got paid double, there is no diffrence in the db if a user is using stratum or getwork.

Yes you should pay back _everyone_ you took money from. Like you said you can't tell who did benefit and who didn't. It was your mistake you should pay for it.
sr. member
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I don't even understand why you are STILL going on with this, i have already said i will put a page or so up for the people that got taken too much. Keep ignoring it and bashing me, we'll see where it gets you.
I'm done.

You have all the information you need to correct this issue in your database. You know who got paid double (If any), you know who you took money from. If you already had money to cover the losses you wouldn't have stolen 25% already. Instead of asking people to come to you why don't you just give back the 25% you stole already. Anything less is a theft for your mistake.
Lol, so i should even give the users that got paid 2.5 days it back. Come on, srsly ? Remember when btcguild paid out 1250BTC too much ...
And no it's not that easy to tell who got paid double, there is no diffrence in the db if a user is using stratum or getwork.
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I don't even understand why you are STILL going on with this, i have already said i will put a page or so up for the people that got taken too much. Keep ignoring it and bashing me, we'll see where it gets you.
I'm done.

You have all the information you need to correct this issue in your database. You know who got paid double (If any), you know who you took money from. If you already had money to cover the losses you wouldn't have stolen 25% already. Instead of asking people to come to you why don't you just give back the 25% you stole already. Anything less is a theft for your mistake.
sr. member
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You are saying "stole" as it was for personal intentions... At that point i HAD no choice. I should've just kept it quiet and let the pool go total bankrupt then I guess.

Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.

You did steal it, stealing is taking without asking, which is what you did. You are justifying the theft because your mistake was paying out some people double for mining (apparently, this hasn't been proven).

What you should have done is simply covered the costs of your mistake yourself. This is what a professional would have done. This is what anyone who wants to continue doing business does.

An immature person with no business sense blames everyone else, steals their funds to cover their own loss and then attacks people who criticize their behavior. ie You. Rather than NICKSASA lose money for this mistake all the pool users do collectively. NICKSASA comes out on top for his mistake, the pool users don't.

You are living in denial my friend.
I don't even understand why you are STILL going on with this, i have already said i will put a page or so up for the people that got taken too much. Keep ignoring it and bashing me, we'll see where it gets you.
I'm done.
sr. member
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i left notroll.in for that reason the kh/s just suddenly decreased from 2400 to 1000 and that was all during 24 h period when i saw that i went stage left exit just saying dont just trow your miners into the pool and let them swim on there own ...
full member
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Nick,

I contacted you about buying notroll.in off of you. I would be willing to purchase the pool from you and even reimburse the people that got "taxed" for the mistake.

Please send me a PM about this, I'm willing to put up the cash to make this RIGHT by everyone.

full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
You are saying "stole" as it was for personal intentions... At that point i HAD no choice. I should've just kept it quiet and let the pool go total bankrupt then I guess.

Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.

You did steal it, stealing is taking without asking, which is what you did. You are justifying the theft because your mistake was paying out some people double for mining (apparently, this hasn't been proven).

What you should have done is simply covered the costs of your mistake yourself. This is what a professional would have done. This is what anyone who wants to continue doing business does.

An immature person with no business sense blames everyone else, steals their funds to cover their own loss and then attacks people who criticize their behavior. ie You. Rather than NICKSASA lose money for this mistake all the pool users do collectively. NICKSASA comes out on top for his mistake, the pool users don't.

You are living in denial my friend.
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Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.

I think a certain pool will be on a lot of people's banlists tomorrow.   Well done, you royally screwed this whole thing up.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Have I EVER denied it wasn't a problem caused by me ? No, I haven't. But you can't blame me for pointing out that nobody bothered to contact me in 2 days that they were being double paid.
You're lucky that I'm not a total dick and just disappeared with the pool (that has happend before with ltc pools.).

Oh so this is why you are treating people with contempt. Because you actually "stuck around" and stole 25% instead of stealing 100% you feel like people owe you a bit of gratitude. Understood.

Can we give Nicksasa some gratitude for only stealing 25% of the funds and sticking around? People? Come on he's not like those other pool guys who just ran with everything.
You are saying "stole" as it was for personal intentions... At that point i HAD no choice. I should've just kept it quiet and let the pool go total bankrupt then I guess.

Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Have I EVER denied it wasn't a problem caused by me ? No, I haven't. But you can't blame me for pointing out that nobody bothered to contact me in 2 days that they were being double paid.
You're lucky that I'm not a total dick and just disappeared with the pool (that has happend before with ltc pools.).

Oh so this is why you are treating people with contempt. Because you actually "stuck around" and stole 25% instead of stealing 100% you feel like people owe you a bit of gratitude. Understood.

Can we give Nicksasa some gratitude for only stealing 25% of the funds and sticking around? People? Come on he's not like those other pool guys who just ran with everything.
sr. member
Activity: 288
Merit: 250
Have I EVER denied it wasn't a problem caused by me ? No, I haven't. But you can't blame me for pointing out that nobody bothered to contact me in 2 days that they were being double paid.
You're lucky that I'm not a total dick and just disappeared with the pool (that has happend before with ltc pools.).

And i'm not sure if i have said this before, but i have already put all of my personal ltc in it (2k).
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