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Topic: [NOW AVAILABLE] BTChip / Ledger HW1 : Bitcoin Hardware Wallet in a USB smartcard - page 2. (Read 62446 times)

hero member
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CTO, Ledger
You should get them when clicking on Settings / Tools / Export Logs, but since it appeared, it might just have been a temporary mempool glitch, as we're still tweaking servers a bit.
legendary
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https://merel.mobi => buy facemasks with BTC/LTC

it should be displayed, you can send your logs to [email protected] so the wallet team can have a look if it doesn't appear.

It did appear as soon as the transaction was confirmed... As long as the transaction wasn't confirmed, it didn't show up in the wallet's transaction list.
Can you tell me where i can find the standard log directory on windows?
hero member
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CTO, Ledger
Thanks for the review, on to the questions

  • at the moment, the ledger wallet is basically a chrome plugin... Will this always stay like this?

On desktop yes, we don't plan to make it a standalone application (or maybe a standalone Electron application at some point, which doesn't change much)

  • maybe it's a good idear to put the linux tutorial on how to get the wallet working on a more prominent spot

yes, we'll think about it

  • will there be an option to sign messages in the near future? I think this would be a great addition, since that way i could get rid of my electrum wallet

this will be available in the next firmware update, when paired to a smartphone.

  • speaking of electrum: would it be possible to get a newbie-friendly version of the installation manual for electrum? I found a tutorial, but it was so long i didn't bother following it

yes, this is long overdue, but we didn't get an opportunity to write it yet.

  • a new address is being generated for each transaction (perfect), but at the moment, i'm transferring funds to my ledger with very low fees (i don't care if it takes days, even weeks before it's confirmed): i don't see unconfirmed transactions to the newly generated address, while in fact, there is an unconfirmed transaction viewable on blockchain.info (i'm not willing to share the tx because of privacy)... is this a feature or a bug?

it should be displayed, you can send your logs to [email protected] so the wallet team can have a look if it doesn't appear.
legendary
Activity: 3402
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https://merel.mobi => buy facemasks with BTC/LTC
I just bought a HW.1, and i wanted to quickly review the process and ask some extra questions.

Process:
  • finding the website and the product: Really easy
  • ordering and paying: since i expect BTC to rise pretty soon,so i didn't want to spend any BTC, so i was happy to being offered the option to pay with Paypal
  • shipping, handling, packaging: I ordered on the 21st, chose the slow option, was supprised when i found the package in my letterbox on the 25th... WOW  Grin. Also: i was expecting a small letter containing a small piece of plastic, but i received a professionally wrapped big envelop, containing a sealed cardboard box... Shipping and handling was top-notch
  • price/quality ratio: the stick itself looks a bit flimsy, but when you hold it, you can actually feal it reasonably durable. I don't think you'll find any HW wallet with such a good price/quality ratio
  • initialising my ledger: i used the iso-image i found here https://www.ledgerwallet.com/files/ledger-secure-starter.iso on an usb-stick in order to initialise everything... went perfectly
  • setting up my system: on my workpc (windows 7), it went like a breeze, on my homePC (openSuse), i needed to do this: http://support.ledgerwallet.com/knowledge_base/topics/ledger-wallet-is-not-recognized-on-linux

Here are my questions/remarks, maybe some of them were already answered, i didn't do the effort of plowing trough 19 pages of replys... i'm very sorry  Embarrassed
 
  • at the moment, the ledger wallet is basically a chrome plugin... Will this always stay like this?
  • maybe it's a good idear to put the linux tutorial on how to get the wallet working on a more prominent spot
  • will there be an option to sign messages in the near future? I think this would be a great addition, since that way i could get rid of my electrum wallet
  • speaking of electrum: would it be possible to get a newbie-friendly version of the installation manual for electrum? I found a tutorial, but it was so long i didn't bother following it
  • a new address is being generated for each transaction (perfect), but at the moment, i'm transferring funds to my ledger with very low fees (i don't care if it takes days, even weeks before it's confirmed): i don't see unconfirmed transactions to the newly generated address, while in fact, there is an unconfirmed transaction viewable on blockchain.info (i'm not willing to share the tx because of privacy)... is this a feature or a bug?
sr. member
Activity: 394
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Crypto enthusiast
The question I have is can I continue to use my hw.1 as a dedicated hardware wallet, as well as, have it function as a co-signer for the copay wallet?

Yes, you can do that if it was properly initialized with the "allow multisig without confirmation" flag - it might not be if you were one of our first users. In this case, you'd just need to reset the HW.1 by entering a wrong PIN 3 times, and restore it with the latest Chrome application. But you can test it with Copay first. If it works, you're good to go.



I don't recall seeing that option when I originally set it up. Good to know it should work so I'll give both suggestions a go now. Thanks
hero member
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CTO, Ledger
The question I have is can I continue to use my hw.1 as a dedicated hardware wallet, as well as, have it function as a co-signer for the copay wallet?

Yes, you can do that if it was properly initialized with the "allow multisig without confirmation" flag - it might not be if you were one of our first users. In this case, you'd just need to reset the HW.1 by entering a wrong PIN 3 times, and restore it with the latest Chrome application. But you can test it with Copay first. If it works, you're good to go.

sr. member
Activity: 394
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Crypto enthusiast
Have been using a duo hw.1 setup (one as a backup) for well over a year and find it an excellent and inexpensive hw solution especially when used with a smartphone as a second factor for improved convenience when spending. Have started looking into using copay and their multi sig support which also supports ledger hw.1/nano as a co-signer. The question I have is can I continue to use my hw.1 as a dedicated hardware wallet, as well as, have it function as a co-signer for the copay wallet? Or does this require or on security grounds a separate ledger hw?
hero member
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Are there plans to have mycellium support the secure screen verification, or a complete Ledger wallet app for Android that does?

It will be possible to do that with specific hardware - if there is a Trusted Execution Environment available with direct access to the UI, we can use that to prompt for a secure confirmation, or with our next wallets, but not with the Nano - otherwise we'd have to use another phone as a second factor.

How do I empty a wallet without leaving any dust satoshi ?

we don't have an option to do that automatically yet, you have to substract the suggested fee value from your total amount.

legendary
Activity: 2898
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How do I empty a wallet without leaving any dust satoshi ?
full member
Activity: 133
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No, the app is probably displaying the mnemonic from your main account - not from the Ledger one. There is no way to recover the mnemonic from the chip, for security reasons obviously  Grin

Oh! you're right. The mnemonics were completely different. I guess the Mycellium interface takes a little getting used to.  

Are there plans to have mycellium support the secure screen verification, or a complete Ledger wallet app for Android that does?
sr. member
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The application had a websocket open to Chain in the past, now we are using our own service.

Ahh ok. I haven't checked in a while.

hero member
Activity: 623
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CTO, Ledger
No, the app is probably displaying the mnemonic from your main account - not from the Ledger one. There is no way to recover the mnemonic from the chip, for security reasons obviously  Grin
full member
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For the Ledger Chrome app to work, what IP addresses/ports do I need to open for basic functionality (sync/spend/confirm on mobile device)

You only need to open port 443 on *.ledgerwallet.com

Thank you!

I have another question about security:

I tried out Mycellium with Ledger for the first time yesterday. When using Mycellium, even though the Security Card is required to spend, the app is able to display the HW.1's complete list of mnemonics without the Security Card.  Does this mean that someone in possession of just the Ledger Nano/HW.1 and the 4-digit pin can reconstruct the bip32 seed and spend without the security card?
hero member
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The application had a websocket open to Chain in the past, now we are using our own service.
sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 250
For the Ledger Chrome app to work, what IP addresses/ports do I need to open for basic functionality (sync/spend/confirm on mobile device)

You only need to open port 443 on *.ledgerwallet.com

I looked at the traffic generated a while back. I thought chain.com was accessed by the app also?

hero member
Activity: 623
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CTO, Ledger
For the Ledger Chrome app to work, what IP addresses/ports do I need to open for basic functionality (sync/spend/confirm on mobile device)

You only need to open port 443 on *.ledgerwallet.com
full member
Activity: 133
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For the Ledger Chrome app to work, what IP addresses/ports do I need to open for basic functionality (sync/spend/confirm on mobile device)
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1010
Ad maiora!
I've been using the ledger wallet for a while and am very happy. The low cost is what convinced me at first, and it looks like the bitchip is even cheaper. The one thing I would suggest is some sort of protective casing. I am confident to carry my ledger around in my pocket if need be because it is in a little slip case. If bit chip had something similar it would be perfect
hero member
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Unfortunately I can't see how that answers my question.
Could you please explain more in detail how I can get a specific address from the API?
hero member
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Would it be possible to request a specific address from the Ledger API?
E.g. requesting the address of the path "44'/0'/0'/0/0" and get that specific address back.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33q6mc/ledger_releases_high_level_developper_api_for_the/
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