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Topic: Now that GAW is in deep shit, let's speculate - page 3. (Read 4805 times)

legendary
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Too much drama in here.
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Also can we get proof that the two companies that were to make the Vault Breakers actually went under or any proof that you had ordered them to be made?
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Where are those graphs you said you could show me from the other thread Josh? Going to keep dodging that one?
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If your going to report whats going on, its important you use facts.

Let's clear something up, a fact is something that can be verified to be true. Stop misusing the word.

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1. My response to coinfire is still posted. Do a little searching.

I read it in it's entirety and it's pathetic. If you think ad hominem and unverifiable claims are going to win you any points outside of hashcult you're sadly mistaken.

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2. We now haver over 1 million invite request for paycoin. So I would say its going pretty well.

I have over 10 million invite requests for jimmothycoin.

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3. Our NDAs are preventing us from announcing our large partners. Its ok with you don't believe. But the only way to prove it is to wait and see what happens. So how about holding of on spreading FUD until that happens?

Jimmothycoin will also be launching with partnerships with some of the worlds largest banks, investors, and nation leaders. (can't tell you exactly who because of NDA's, but I can tell you they are planning on investing billions)

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4. Coinfire did not provide any more evidence then we have, so why does that make us liars? And not them? In any case, our legal team will force them to show their sources, so we will know the truth soon enough.

You're actually right about this.

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5. There is no evidence of any of the claims you are making in and the links you posted. Just people doing the something your doing here, speculating and trying to pass off opinions as facts

The burden of proof is on the person making the claims.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time

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We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

So do these partnerships exist or not? At the time of these quotes, there were no other partnerships mentioned/rumored other than Walmart/Target/Amazon.

GAW why not post pictures of the NDAs with all the names of the businesses blacked out, that way you are not breaking the NDA.

Don't believe us, thats ok too Smiley

Just don't go around saying we are lying when you don't have any proof of that. Time will tell.

Haha.  He won't respond with the NDA because he cant provide one.  Everything he says is hearsay.  He could say he has a magic pink unicorn that farts rainbows in his closet but he is under NDA to not show it.  It's all bullshit at this point.  All he is doing is priming the pump trying to make him and his investors more money on the backs of these so called hashlet "miners".  It's all word play to keep the game going.  Every time prices in the hashmarket fell Josh comes out and pumps the crowd up to keep prices aloft

Hashlets are the worst miner to come into existence.  A Hashlet Prime has an ROI over 500 days if difficulty was flat and prices didn't change over that time. 

Even the Vaultbreakers were a joke.  All the chest puffing about scrypt mining is his house and well after KNCminer ships their Titans, GAW has yet to ship a VB.  Why?  On they had problems delivering on the promise to ship before KNCminer because the company that made the miners for GAW went under.  So not GAW is scrambling to try to get something out to the customers that wanted physically miners months after they were supposed to ship.
hero member
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LOL @ this circus act.

If I make enough noise, eventually some one will complain.  Roll Eyes
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If your going to report whats going on, its important you use facts.

Let's clear something up, a fact is something that can be verified to be true. Stop misusing the word.

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1. My response to coinfire is still posted. Do a little searching.

I read it in it's entirety and it's pathetic. If you think ad hominem and unverifiable claims are going to win you any points outside of hashcult you're sadly mistaken.

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2. We now haver over 1 million invite request for paycoin. So I would say its going pretty well.

I have over 10 million invite requests for jimmothycoin.

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3. Our NDAs are preventing us from announcing our large partners. Its ok with you don't believe. But the only way to prove it is to wait and see what happens. So how about holding of on spreading FUD until that happens?

Jimmothycoin will also be launching with partnerships with some of the worlds largest banks, investors, and nation leaders. (can't tell you exactly who because of NDA's, but I can tell you they are planning on investing billions)

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4. Coinfire did not provide any more evidence then we have, so why does that make us liars? And not them? In any case, our legal team will force them to show their sources, so we will know the truth soon enough.

You're actually right about this.

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5. There is no evidence of any of the claims you are making in and the links you posted. Just people doing the something your doing here, speculating and trying to pass off opinions as facts

The burden of proof is on the person making the claims.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time

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We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

So do these partnerships exist or not? At the time of these quotes, there were no other partnerships mentioned/rumored other than Walmart/Target/Amazon.

GAW why not post pictures of the NDAs with all the names of the businesses blacked out, that way you are not breaking the NDA.

Don't believe us, thats ok too Smiley

Just don't go around saying we are lying when you don't have any proof of that. Time will tell.
sr. member
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I have over 10 million invite requests for jimmothycoin.

Jimmothycoin will also be launching with partnerships with some of the worlds largest banks, investors, and nation leaders. (can't tell you exactly who because of NDA's, but I can tell you they are planning on investing billions)

The burden of proof is on the person making the claims.

Go ahead, I can wait.
full member
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If your going to report whats going on, its important you use facts.

Let's clear something up, a fact is something that can be verified to be true. Stop misusing the word.

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1. My response to coinfire is still posted. Do a little searching.

I read it in it's entirety and it's pathetic. If you think ad hominem and unverifiable claims are going to win you any points outside of hashcult you're sadly mistaken.

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2. We now haver over 1 million invite request for paycoin. So I would say its going pretty well.

I have over 10 million invite requests for jimmothycoin.

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3. Our NDAs are preventing us from announcing our large partners. Its ok with you don't believe. But the only way to prove it is to wait and see what happens. So how about holding of on spreading FUD until that happens?

Jimmothycoin will also be launching with partnerships with some of the worlds largest banks, investors, and nation leaders. (can't tell you exactly who because of NDA's, but I can tell you they are planning on investing billions)

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4. Coinfire did not provide any more evidence then we have, so why does that make us liars? And not them? In any case, our legal team will force them to show their sources, so we will know the truth soon enough.

You're actually right about this.

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5. There is no evidence of any of the claims you are making in and the links you posted. Just people doing the something your doing here, speculating and trying to pass off opinions as facts

The burden of proof is on the person making the claims.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time

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We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

So do these partnerships exist or not? At the time of these quotes, there were no other partnerships mentioned/rumored other than Walmart/Target/Amazon.

GAW why not post pictures of the NDAs with all the names of the businesses blacked out, that way you are not breaking the NDA.
hero member
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If your going to report whats going on, its important you use facts.

Let's clear something up, a fact is something that can be verified to be true. Stop misusing the word.

Quote
1. My response to coinfire is still posted. Do a little searching.

I read it in it's entirety and it's pathetic. If you think ad hominem and unverifiable claims are going to win you any points outside of hashcult you're sadly mistaken.

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2. We now haver over 1 million invite request for paycoin. So I would say its going pretty well.

I have over 10 million invite requests for jimmothycoin.

Quote
3. Our NDAs are preventing us from announcing our large partners. Its ok with you don't believe. But the only way to prove it is to wait and see what happens. So how about holding of on spreading FUD until that happens?

Jimmothycoin will also be launching with partnerships with some of the worlds largest banks, investors, and nation leaders. (can't tell you exactly who because of NDA's, but I can tell you they are planning on investing billions)

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4. Coinfire did not provide any more evidence then we have, so why does that make us liars? And not them? In any case, our legal team will force them to show their sources, so we will know the truth soon enough.

You're actually right about this.

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5. There is no evidence of any of the claims you are making in and the links you posted. Just people doing the something your doing here, speculating and trying to pass off opinions as facts

The burden of proof is on the person making the claims.

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time

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We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

So do these partnerships exist or not? At the time of these quotes, there were no other partnerships mentioned/rumored other than Walmart/Target/Amazon.
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full member
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All these quotes are suggestions, not claims.

No digital or crypto-coin has ever launched with global partners and a 250 million dollar backing, nor with a partnership with e-commerce giants, Amazon, Wal-Mart and Target lined up, but “Hashcoin” will.
It says that "hashcoin will", so it's his hope or expectation, maybe even a promise. It still doesn not mean they "had established partnerships". The same thing could be said about all his other quotes I've seen so far. Yes, he implies he wants to contact these companies and believes in the success of his product, but doesn't say any contracts or partnerships were signed.



"nor with a partnership with e-commerce giants, Amazon, Wal-Mart and Target lined up, but “Hashcoin” will."  That sentence right there says these partnerships have been established.  The "but "hashcoin" will" is what solidifies that they have these partnerships.  The statement would need a could, might, maybe, or potentially to make it mean that is speculation.  If I said I will be at the party that mean I will be at the party.  Now if I said I might be at the party that means that I may or may not make it to the party.
sr. member
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All these quotes are suggestions, not claims.

No digital or crypto-coin has ever launched with global partners and a 250 million dollar backing, nor with a partnership with e-commerce giants, Amazon, Wal-Mart and Target lined up, but “Hashcoin” will.
It says that "hashcoin will", so it's his hope or expectation, maybe even a promise. It still doesn not mean they "had established partnerships". The same thing could be said about all his other quotes I've seen so far. Yes, he implies he wants to contact these companies and believes in the success of his product, but doesn't say any contracts or partnerships were signed.



will: expressing inevitable events.
sr. member
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Please read the articles again and show us these facts:

http://gawminers.eu/news/hashbase-visa-hashcoin-prelude/
HashBase will allow you to mine a coin, search for a product, see search results from Target/Walmart/Amazon/Macy’s, and buy on the spot. A few days later, the product shows up at your door.

This article says "will allow you" which implies he strongly believes that it will happen, not that it has already.

http://bitcoinchangeclub.org/blog/tag/hashcoin/
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20141101202832-161480692-new-digital-currency-is-poised-to-eclipse-bitcoin
Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are apparently buying it up in bargaining, while the CEO makes the case that his devoted “customers deserve the same participation,” so for once, the playing field has been leveled for small investors and loyal customers.

These 2 articles are basically the same and both include the quoted sentence, which implies the companies are interested in his product.

I'm still waiting to see any quote of him saying what OP has repeated after the Coinfire's article, which is "they had partnerships with big companies like Target, Amazon, and Walmart...".


I'm pretty sure "will allow you" means that you will be allowed to do it. That right there is a promise.
hero member
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All these quotes are suggestions, not claims.

Yes, he implies he wants to contact these companies and believes in the success of his product, but doesn't say that any contracts or partnerships were signed.

Did you read my quotes or are you just ignoring them because it's impossible to deny that josh himself confirmed the "partnerships"?
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Small Red and Bad
All these quotes are suggestions, not claims.

No digital or crypto-coin has ever launched with global partners and a 250 million dollar backing, nor with a partnership with e-commerce giants, Amazon, Wal-Mart and Target lined up, but “Hashcoin” will.
It says that "hashcoin will", so it's his hope or expectation, maybe even a promise. It still doesn not mean they "had established partnerships". The same thing could be said about all his other quotes I've seen so far. Yes, he implies he wants to contact these companies and believes in the success of his product, but doesn't say any contracts or partnerships were signed.

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http://bitcoinchangeclub.org/blog/tag/hashcoin/
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20141101202832-161480692-new-digital-currency-is-poised-to-eclipse-bitcoin
Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are apparently buying it up in bargaining, while the CEO makes the case that his devoted “customers deserve the same participation,” so for once, the playing field has been leveled for small investors and loyal customers.

These 2 articles are basically the same and both include the quoted sentence, which implies the companies are interested in his product.

I'm still waiting to see any quote of him saying what OP has repeated after the Coinfire's article, which is "they had partnerships with big companies like Target, Amazon, and Walmart...".


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No digital or crypto-coin has ever launched with global partners and a 250 million dollar backing, nor with a partnership with e-commerce giants, Amazon, Wal-Mart and Target lined up, but “Hashcoin” will.

Pretty sure that right there is saying they have partnerships with them. 

Quite funny the speculation thread that also had this stated in has since been deleted.  Link is at end of article.

http://gawminers.eu/news/hash-coin-speculations/
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I'm still waiting to see any quote of him saying what OP has repeated after the Coinfire's article, which is "they had partnerships with big companies like Target, Amazon, and Walmart...".

Here's some direct quotes from the virtual hashking himself:

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We're working on getting hashlets in to mainstream stores. It wont be long before you'll walk in to target and see hashlets. It won't long before you go on walmart.com. We're acting(?) with the largest retailers in the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVXPFVl0r0M#t=22044

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Our partners got upset that I released their names ahead of time, so now I have to mind my P's and Q

https://hashtalk.org/topic/16853/all-is-well-in-the-land

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I have seen a few posts asking about our coin being accepted at larger merchants. Everything is still on track. I have had to change some of my wording as to not create issues with the MNDAs we have in place.

Short summary:
We said a few things before our partners were ready for folks to hear it.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/17485/large-merchants

It's funny how there were absolutely zero fanboys who doubted the amazon/target/walmart partnerships before the coinfire article was published.

Now they've all either taken the stance that coinfires reporting is inaccurate or that josh never directly mentioned a partnership. The amount of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance people are willing to go through to whitewash this is astounding.
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Small Red and Bad

Please read the articles again and show us these facts:

http://gawminers.eu/news/hashbase-visa-hashcoin-prelude/
HashBase will allow you to mine a coin, search for a product, see search results from Target/Walmart/Amazon/Macy’s, and buy on the spot. A few days later, the product shows up at your door.

This article says "will allow you" which implies he strongly believes that it will happen, not that it has already.

http://bitcoinchangeclub.org/blog/tag/hashcoin/
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20141101202832-161480692-new-digital-currency-is-poised-to-eclipse-bitcoin
Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are apparently buying it up in bargaining, while the CEO makes the case that his devoted “customers deserve the same participation,” so for once, the playing field has been leveled for small investors and loyal customers.

These 2 articles are basically the same and both include the quoted sentence, which implies the companies are interested in his product.

I'm still waiting to see any quote of him saying what OP has repeated after the Coinfire's article, which is "they had partnerships with big companies like Target, Amazon, and Walmart...".
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Some background:
CEO of GAW miners went on a public rant trying to promote his new venture saying that they had partnerships with big companies like Target, Amazon, and Walmart... This was followed by a bounch of other such statements.
Coinfire covered this, stating the obvious. That he was outright lying.
Here's an archived version of a catched page containing the article:
https://archive.today/gCnQW

I don't see any proof of him sayin "he had partnerships" in the article or anywhere else. Where is this outright lie you're talking about?
As for the hack, I don't support it, but I doubt it was done by GAW employees. You don't need to be smarter than the average to know that such things bring more publicity to the victim, not the attacker.
Staging this would be a smart move by coinfire. A lot of people will hear about them after they hype it as an attempt to shutdown free media.


So then he essentially lied when he posted it on HT that you will be able to make purchases with paycoin at target, walmart, and amazon.  He said it on his official announcement when it was called hashcoin. 

He never said any of those names, just that there where large retailers involved. And about the ICO, it has always been so that only after ICO 2 hashpoints would be able to be converted to Paycoins. They just gave everybody another 2 weeks of hashpoins mining instead of waiting for 2 weeks and only be able to mine BTC.

Get your facts together!

Oh wait I think you need to check your facts.

http://gawminers.eu/news/hashbase-visa-hashcoin-prelude/
http://bitcoinchangeclub.org/blog/tag/hashcoin/
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20141101202832-161480692-new-digital-currency-is-poised-to-eclipse-bitcoin
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LOL @ the plebes frantically scurrying around trying to sanitize the interent. There are enough witnesses to jail that liar for stating factually the three companies are in partnership with him.

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1.At this moment only Primes can mine Hashpoints but coming week the ZenHashlet will be added, so buy more Hashlet’s Smiley
2.On DAY 2 of Hashers United Josh Garza told us thats he is in partnership with AMAZON and WALMAT and TARGET an specifics can’t be shared right now
3.Al the companies Gaw Miners is working with will start using the Hash Coin.
4.This new coin will be supported buy a credit card system, available on all major exchanges and accepted buy the biggest retailer in the world !
5.In total there will be 250 million Hash coins !
6.Within +/- 2 weeks you can trade Hash coin to BTC.
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