NSA Hacked - Bad publicity for Bitcoin

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Quote from: drwtsn32 on October 06, 2016, 10:45:33 PM

What do they think of something like NSA? They know nothing?
No one will spend 1 million BTC for an exploit. We don't even know if that is legit.

You clearly haven't even read the post, they were not asking for 1 million in Bitcoin, it was an auction.
If they got 1 million BTC in total, they would make those files public.

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lol bitcoin is based in bad publicity, it's like 10 ponzi, hack, silk road, misinformation for every 1 good thing and well, the business are going "well"...

about the OP, for sure option 3, they just don't give a f*ck.

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Quote from: dc1a0 on October 07, 2016, 01:33:57 AM

I'm still having trouble seeing how this is bad publicity for bitcoin. They could have asked for half a billion USD in unmarked bills just the same. If anything it shows that it is possible that a group could be created to watch the watchmen. If I'm already being spied on, it doesn't bother me in the least that someone stole from the spies.

I'm not speaking from the bitcoin community standpoint when I say "Bad publicity" for Bitcoin , I'm more speaking about how the governments or the media will talk about it. Asking for cash will just make them vulnerable and they will get caught for sure.

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Quote from: dc1a0 on October 07, 2016, 01:33:57 AM

I'm still having trouble seeing how this is bad publicity for bitcoin. They could have asked for half a billion USD in unmarked bills just the same. If anything it shows that it is possible that a group could be created to watch the watchmen. If I'm already being spied on, it doesn't bother me in the least that someone stole from the spies.

I think he wanted to say that this us bad publicist for Bitcoin because recently it is often connected to similar cases. Of course they could have asked for US dollars but Bitcoin is stil harder to trace and bad is that this way people get the feeling Bitcoin is ideal currency for criminals. So we stil have to work to move this prejudice from Bitcoin.
And to answer the question I don't think this will influence on Bitcoin price.

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This is the guy who hack NSA? http://nypost.com/2016/10/05/nsa-contractor-arrested-in-hacking-plot/

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I'm still having trouble seeing how this is bad publicity for bitcoin. They could have asked for half a billion USD in unmarked bills just the same. If anything it shows that it is possible that a group could be created to watch the watchmen. If I'm already being spied on, it doesn't bother me in the least that someone stole from the spies.

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They won't do anything. Private tools were leaked? Just ask major companies to make more backdoors or even - use the existing backdoors to make more.

Proves that nothing is safe.

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What do they think of something like NSA? They know nothing?
No one will spend 1 million BTC for an exploit. We don't even know if that is legit.

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This guy was from the same firm as Snowden and was arrested in August..

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Hack the wrong people and bodies will quickly add up,look at the Clinton Foundation.

Think we are well into the phase of nothing being safe and it being best to think you have been compromised.
It should be a interesting war between so many different factions that are not even tied to a Country,as well as those that are.

NSA seem to have made some big blunders as of late and think they could be in for a shakeup.

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Quote from: unholycactus on August 22, 2016, 11:38:20 AM

There seems to be a lot of people in this thread that think the NSA is ran by aliens or superhumans.

it is definitely possible Cheesy

bitcoin always get a lot of negative publicity to be honest so nsa hack wont be too bad

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 17, 2016, 03:34:17 AM

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The hacking group has leaked some private hacking tools and exploits. The hackers are also asking for 1 million bitcoin (about $568 million) in an auction to release all the files.

Here are my three scenarios :

1. Satoshi Nakamoto is NSA and he is going to pay the 1 million Bitcoin.
2. NSA will buy 1 million Bitcoin and give us a nice increase in the price.
3. NSA won't do shit . (which is the thing likely to happen in this case)

I think that the third one will happen, I don't think they will spend half a billion of dollars paying the hackers, but they will modify the tools and the websites or backdoors in order that those tools that hackers own now will not work, otherwise they will pay but not 1 million bitcoin.

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There seems to be a lot of people in this thread that think the NSA is ran by aliens or superhumans.

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Quote from: dserrano5 on August 17, 2016, 01:23:11 PM

4. NSA hack the hackers, destroy evidence.

Don't overestimate the NSA/underestimate the hackers.

Quote from: dserrano5 on August 17, 2016, 01:23:11 PM

6. NSA say meh, hackers don't disclose a bit, everyone forgets.

That's usually what happens in these events. The media spins something else that goes viral and makes the average Joe forget about it. Remember Panama Papers? Barely anyone is talking about those (at least from what I can gather).

Quote from: enhu on August 18, 2016, 12:36:19 AM

NSA won't do anything, they let the hackers spread whatever files and information they got for all they care.

You're overestimating their power.

Quote from: enhu on August 18, 2016, 12:36:19 AM

NSA is a big company and can protect themselves and may divert the information given after all they've been doing it since time.

This statement is very irrational. There is no system that isn't hackable.

Quote from: buyinbtc on August 18, 2016, 02:35:35 PM

hahaha thats funny, though it is a bad that such stuff is actually happening, it is really not good for the image of the bitcoins to be honest

Nonsense. The same would apply for every other currency, especially dollar which is used for most illicit actions.

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An update posted one hour ago :

Bitcoin appears to be moving from a seized wallet to the Shadow Brokers auction, raising suspicions that the US government is potentially bidding to prevent stolen NSA exploits and tools from ending up in the wrong hands -- again.

I don't think It's anything confirmed though

http://www.zdnet.com/article/seized-silk-road-bitcoin-used-to-fund-shadowbrokers-exploit-auction/

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Quote from: XCASH on August 18, 2016, 06:06:21 AM

Quote from: Leonard2016 on August 17, 2016, 11:13:46 PM

this is mostly bad for NSA not for bitcoin, they have been hacked and hackers are only receiving their payment that way as they have been receiving payments in the form of fiat in unmarked bills

Quote from: XCASH on August 17, 2016, 06:43:53 PM

There's something strange about the recent addresses sending money to that Bitcoin address the hackers take auction offers in. Someone has been generating vanity addresses to write the words of a pop song in them.

https://blockchain.info/address/19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK

These are the most recent addresses in the same order as blockchain.info shows them.

1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
1giveGEk184Gwep2KT4UBPTcE9oqWzCVR
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1upAbpBEWQ467QNT7i4vBMVPzSfQ3sqoQ
1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
11etAyypstpXLQpTgoYmYzT8M2foBSBe1
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1downAsBbRQcBfUj8rgQomqhRsNFf1jMo

wow, that is anice find.

It might be a hint from the NSA that it will never stop hunting the hackers down. The hackers have probably bitten off more than they can chew, they couldn't have picked a worse target than the NSA. That organisation never forgets, or lets anything drop.

hahaha thats funny, though it is a bad that such stuff is actually happening, it is really not good for the image of the bitcoins to be honest

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Quote from: XCASH on August 18, 2016, 06:06:21 AM

Quote from: Leonard2016 on August 17, 2016, 11:13:46 PM

this is mostly bad for NSA not for bitcoin, they have been hacked and hackers are only receiving their payment that way as they have been receiving payments in the form of fiat in unmarked bills

Quote from: XCASH on August 17, 2016, 06:43:53 PM

There's something strange about the recent addresses sending money to that Bitcoin address the hackers take auction offers in. Someone has been generating vanity addresses to write the words of a pop song in them.

https://blockchain.info/address/19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK

These are the most recent addresses in the same order as blockchain.info shows them.

1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
1giveGEk184Gwep2KT4UBPTcE9oqWzCVR
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1upAbpBEWQ467QNT7i4vBMVPzSfQ3sqoQ
1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
11etAyypstpXLQpTgoYmYzT8M2foBSBe1
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1downAsBbRQcBfUj8rgQomqhRsNFf1jMo

wow, that is anice find.

It might be a hint from the NSA that it will never stop hunting the hackers down. The hackers have probably bitten off more than they can chew, they couldn't have picked a worse target than the NSA. That organisation never forgets, or lets anything drop.

It would be a quite childish reaction for such an organization. At least that's not what I would expect from someone who feels capable of effectively solving the case in his/her favor. Threats are mostly exclaimed by those who feel (momentarily) powerless to engage in effective remedy for perceived injustice.

Of course it will be very interesting to see how this will end. Interestingly the main stream media still remain relatively silent regarding the case...

Finally I don't think it will be bad publicity for Bitcoin. The NSA is among the least popular organizations and associated with severe violations of civil rights - especially in foreign countries. The fact that Bitcoin payments are requested only shows that Bitcoin is valuable and can be used like cash.

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Quote from: Leonard2016 on August 17, 2016, 11:13:46 PM

this is mostly bad for NSA not for bitcoin, they have been hacked and hackers are only receiving their payment that way as they have been receiving payments in the form of fiat in unmarked bills

Quote from: XCASH on August 17, 2016, 06:43:53 PM

There's something strange about the recent addresses sending money to that Bitcoin address the hackers take auction offers in. Someone has been generating vanity addresses to write the words of a pop song in them.

https://blockchain.info/address/19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK

These are the most recent addresses in the same order as blockchain.info shows them.

1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
1giveGEk184Gwep2KT4UBPTcE9oqWzCVR
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1upAbpBEWQ467QNT7i4vBMVPzSfQ3sqoQ
1never9kNNkr27UseZSHnaEHg1z8v3Mbb
1gonnaV3MFNjymS4RGvUbHACstiS8aSYz
11etAyypstpXLQpTgoYmYzT8M2foBSBe1
1youKBMLEohsexdZtkvnTzHnc4iU7Ffty
1downAsBbRQcBfUj8rgQomqhRsNFf1jMo

wow, that is anice find.

It might be a hint from the NSA that it will never stop hunting the hackers down. The hackers have probably bitten off more than they can chew, they couldn't have picked a worse target than the NSA. That organisation never forgets, or lets anything drop.

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NSA won't do anything, they let the hackers spread whatever files and information they got for all they care. NSA is a big company and can protect themselves and may divert the information given after all they've been doing it since time. NSA will just deny anything or will create their own explanation of everything being leaked.

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Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on August 17, 2016, 11:20:23 PM

~The NSA doesn't get hacked unless it wants to.~

you are overthinking the power of NSA, every system in the world has weaknesses. there is nothing perfect to be found anywhere.

Quote from: mammabitcoin2u on August 17, 2016, 11:32:34 PM

~ Although, people claim, BTC cannot be traced, I'm confident it can be traced in other ways, not just by the wallet addresses.~

yeah there are ways to do a blockchain analysis and come to a conclusion about where the coins went but it is not 100% and has a huge margin of error.

what are the "other ways" you have in mind?

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