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legendary
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Did you "knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo" before you started this poll OP or not? No?
Former is publicly available information, I have no clue about later. How can I possible know what you know?

@TECSHARE, whatever you say, you have been pointed several times already who you have in your trust list, including BitcoinSupremo:
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issue, I probably would have just removed him.
This is just not true. You have been notified 3 months ago. You are very aware of this and you did literally nothing, look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51388548



Anyway, truth to be told, I started this poll because I wanted to know forum member's opinion, it somehow become discussion about T. It actually wasn't my intention, I was hopping to have poll without members knowing who posted something, who included who etc. Just can't have these things around here without "investigations", eh?

Well, clown car driver instructed me to lock thread so locking this. @TECSHARE if you have anything to add, send PM to our clown car headquarters and they will coordinate me to unlock it.

Since marlboroza is unable to have an open discussion and allow me to reply [...] and has to resort to locking his topic to try to make a point because he knows I will demolish it....
Ok ok, unlocked, so you can lock this one where you demolished my point  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3654
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Not everyone's fault, just a small car full of clowns. Maybe I was wrong about you understanding this ongoing dynamic. It's ok, you will learn.

No, I don't think I can ever understand how you can keep someone in your trust list not because you trust their judgement but just to spite some "clowns".

I can't wait to see who else is going to show up in your trust list by the time you get back into DT1. One of Quicksy's alts would be my recommendation. That would make for a memorable showdown with the clown car.
legendary
Activity: 3318
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First Exclusion Ever
No one buys your feigned ignorance, especially with you personally pushing 2 or 3 threads
I am sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I am pointing that next users become default trust members/will maybe become DT members:

1)scammers
2)banned accounts
3)hacked accounts
4)inactive accounts

Seems you can't understand this and you see this as personal attack.
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issues, I probably would have just removed him.
FTFY. How many times will you ignore my post?


Vod starting one with a retaliatory negative rating and the rest of the clowns all chiming in at once. This was clearly coordinated.
Of course, my counter to Vod's -ve feedback was also coordinated by clowns.

and the rest of the clowns all chiming in at once. This was clearly coordinated.
negative is not appropriate.
This was also coordinated by clowns.


And back into the sophistry you slip, answering to what you wish I had said instead of what I actually said.  You knew very well I included BitcoinSupremo when you pitched this particular circus tent. Just because you make a few weak ass token attempts at appearing impartial doesn't disguise this.


To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issue, I probably would have just removed him. Unfortunately his words were always just a mechanism to target people for their ideas, be it about life in general or the forum. As a result, you are all essentially assuring I CAN'T remove him from my inclusions, because to do so would be to provide validation to and incentivize these coordinated kinds of reputational attacks. So, good job on making the forum a better place to be Piddles, Bozo, and Shakes.

There you have it. It's everyone else's fault that TECSHARE has that dipshit in his trust list.

he's never ever wrong

Not everyone's fault, just a small car full of clowns. Maybe I was wrong about you understanding this ongoing dynamic. It's ok, you will learn.
legendary
Activity: 3654
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https://bpip.org
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issue, I probably would have just removed him. Unfortunately his words were always just a mechanism to target people for their ideas, be it about life in general or the forum. As a result, you are all essentially assuring I CAN'T remove him from my inclusions, because to do so would be to provide validation to and incentivize these coordinated kinds of reputational attacks. So, good job on making the forum a better place to be Piddles, Bozo, and Shakes.

There you have it. It's everyone else's fault that TECSHARE has that dipshit in his trust list.

he's never ever wrong
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
He was being targeted for speaking out.
This is not true. He was tagged because his account has bitcoin connection with scammer egg.chuck, he was tagged because he used alt accounts to self vouch for payed gambling tips ("I bought tip, would recommend") and he was tagged for making blatant lies. As I said few times, everything is publicly available information, together with his other retaliatory nonsensical feedback you ARE ignoring right now.

No one buys your feigned ignorance, especially with you personally pushing 2 or 3 threads
I am sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I am pointing that next users become default trust members/will maybe become DT members:

1)scammers
2)banned accounts
3)hacked accounts
4)inactive accounts

Seems you can't understand this and you see this as personal attack.
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issues, I probably would have just removed him.
FTFY. How many times will you ignore my post?


Vod starting one with a retaliatory negative rating and the rest of the clowns all chiming in at once. This was clearly coordinated.
Of course, my counter to Vod's -ve feedback was also coordinated by clowns.

and the rest of the clowns all chiming in at once. This was clearly coordinated.
negative is not appropriate.
This was also coordinated by clowns.
legendary
Activity: 3318
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First Exclusion Ever
To be perfectly frank, if some one had simply politely notified me of this issue, I probably would have just removed him. Unfortunately his words were always just a mechanism to target people for their ideas, be it about life in general or the forum. As a result, you are all essentially assuring I CAN'T remove him from my inclusions, because to do so would be to provide validation to and incentivize these coordinated kinds of reputational attacks. So, good job on making the forum a better place to be Piddles, Bozo, and Shakes.
legendary
Activity: 2296
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BTC or BUST
So you made assumption that I knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to his trust list?

Not really but you hid all the facts in your OP about who even posted the quote about gays to where I had to find the thread myself to read the context and started a poll with as minimal information behind it as possible.. What was the point of that?

Did you "knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo" before you started this poll OP or not? No?

It's easy to see that TS quickly became the subject..

Vod starting one with a retaliatory negative rating

Which was nonsense, like a lot of stuff coming out of Vod lately..

Like I (thought I) just responded to The-One-Above-All about forgivness..

How would you compare this drunken mistake in terms of financial risky behavior to the board..... to let's say

1. screaming you are sure that anyone selling their accounts is facilitating scams, are evil and must have red trust. .... and then trying to sell their account for months for 0.3 btc??

2. Or getting your pal to auction your stuff and then pretend you would love to buy it and it is going far to cheap and worth much more? so using deception to try to pump the sale price of your own items?

3. Or claiming you were on a launch of a pow coin and can state there was no instamine/premine because you were there and know it never happened. (when you have bags of that coin) when it was UNDENIABLE that it took place?

Talking about beating people up is pretty bad but a lot of people here have made mistakes, aren't squeaky clean, and have been forgiven about it..

If Vod can be forgiven that easily for doxing, snitching to feds (or just a threat to snitch or lie that he snitched? still unclear..), and leaving BS negs in that OG situation (that still exist), I don't see how this bitcoinsupremo situation is even a blip on the radar..


People make mistakes and are forgiven usually after the situation is handled but sometimes even before..

I don't like what Bitcoinsupremo posted about beating up gays, I don't like what I saw about him being inconsistent about gender either, I think he probably shouldn't be in DT because of it, but I think maybe a few others shouldn't be in DT because of their situations aswell but maybe people are more forgiving about stupid actions than I am, or have lower standards for DT..

I'm not going to raise a huge public fuss about it (like this thread), but I remember it for myself..
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Like any other user, he is free to leave negative ratings at will. He has little to no power in this system.

He was on DT2. That's relatively a fair amount of power.

It's not the hugest mistake in the world though as if one is expected to search a users entire post history for out of character drunken rants before including them..

The main problem I see is that TECSHARE included him specifically because Timelord excluded him. That's a dumb reason to add people to your trust list: because they are being excluded by other people... It should be about the contents of their trust ratings, and secondarily the contents of their trust lists... not about whether or not that person is being "harassed" by people you don't like.

I don't necessarily dislike gays if they are cool but I dislike flamers of any variety.. I've had gay friends but not so much ones you can tell are gay just by looking at them, or at the first sound of their voice.. No thanks.. Just my opinion..

If you are going to be tolerant I think you should be just as tolerant of the guy that doesn't like flamers as you are of the flamers themselves.. You don't have to like and befriend either one but respect their right to be whatever they are, but any sort of offensive violence coming from any camp is unacceptable and intolerable..

What does any of this have to do the trust system?  Roll Eyes

As usual, you just take the parts of my words you want to respond to and ignore the rest. It is not just because he was harassed, it was WHY he was being harassed. Plenty of people are constantly harassed around here and I don't add them. He was being targeted for speaking out. FYI, I never had any conflict with Timelord until I spoke out about his abusive flags against some of the Turkish community (after first defending him from the same abuse BTW). I added BitcoinSupremo quite a while ago, not that timelines matter in your shitslinging narrative.




Like any other user, he is free to leave negative ratings at will. He has little to no power in this system. If he does start abusing any authority he has let me know and I will handle it one way or another.
So you will just go "lalalalala"?

I have already told you that is publicly available information, so when you say "let me know", I did.

Until then, your complaints ring hollow and remain a transparent attack on my own reputation rather than a complaint about BitcoinSupremo.
Nonsense.

This has just turned into an opportunity to attack TS rather than he/she who posted the offending post..
Yes, this thread turned into something for sure...
TS's counter may not have been the best move given these revelations but neither is this thread the best way to bring it to TS's attention and solve the problem.. Drama..
So you made assumption that I knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to his trust list?

I reviewed the information you presented. It consists of little more than accusations and suspicions, as usual when targeting an individual here, much as you are attempting to do with me. Furthermore you didn't just "let me know", you tried to start a circus over it to defame me, clearly telegraphing your true intent of harming my reputation and not addressing your so called concerns about BitcoinSupremo.

He made the assumption because it is publicly available information. No one buys your feigned ignorance, especially with you personally pushing 2 or 3 threads, Vod starting one with a retaliatory negative rating, and the rest of the clowns all chiming in at once. This was clearly coordinated.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
Like any other user, he is free to leave negative ratings at will. He has little to no power in this system. If he does start abusing any authority he has let me know and I will handle it one way or another.
So you will just go "lalalalala"?

I have already told you that is publicly available information, so when you say "let me know", I did.

Until then, your complaints ring hollow and remain a transparent attack on my own reputation rather than a complaint about BitcoinSupremo.
Nonsense.

This has just turned into an opportunity to attack TS rather than he/she who posted the offending post..
Yes, this thread turned into something for sure...
TS's counter may not have been the best move given these revelations but neither is this thread the best way to bring it to TS's attention and solve the problem.. Drama..
So you made assumption that I knew that it was TECHSHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to trust list or you know that I knew that it was TECHARE who included BitcoinSupremo to his trust list?
legendary
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BTC or BUST
The main problem I see is that TECSHARE..

Right..
This has just turned into an opportunity to attack TS rather than he/she who posted the offending post.. Another "gotcha"..
TS's counter may not have been the best move given these revelations but neither is this thread the best way to bring it to TS's attention and solve the problem.. Drama..

What does any of this have to do the trust system?  Roll Eyes

All this talk about "hate speech" VS Free Speech..
member
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I just came here because of the title, violent and homosexual do not belong to the same sentence or the same person, gays are weak like pussies and anyone can beat the hell out of them. I would do this for free that is how much I hate homosexuals.

I completely support his free speech right to state his/her opinion about gays but the last sentence is pushing it too far hinting about personally committing violence..
Looks like drunk posting..

That last sentence in that now redacted post, and some other inconsistencies of his brought up in the thread it originated from, lead me to believe he would infact be a mistake to be added to DT, but not because he doesn't like gays..
It's not the hugest mistake in the world though as if one is expected to search a users entire post history for out of character drunken rants before including them..

I don't necessarily dislike gays if they are cool but I dislike flamers of any variety.. I've had gay friends but not so much ones you can tell are gay just by looking at them, or at the first sound of their voice.. No thanks.. Just my opinion..

If you are going to be tolerant I think you should be just as tolerant of the guy that doesn't like flamers as you are of the flamers themselves.. You don't have to like and befriend either one but respect their right to be whatever they are, but any sort of offensive violence coming from any camp is unacceptable and intolerable..

How would you compare this drunken mistake in terms of financial risky behavior to the board..... to let's say

1. screaming you are sure that anyone selling their accounts is facilitating scams, are evil and must have red trust. .... and then trying to sell their account for months for 0.3 btc??

2. Or getting your pal to auction your stuff and then pretend you would love to buy it and it is going far to cheap and worth much more? so using deception to try to pump the sale price of your own items?

3. Or claiming you were on a launch of a pow coin and can state there was no instamine/premine because you were there and know it never happened. (when you have bags of that coin) when it was UNDENIABLE that it took place?

Imagine if these people were all then implicated in a very serious extortion or supporting those that were on to a trust system?


I mean just those 3 things compared to saying you can beat up a homosexual and you hate them?

I see these people guilty of observable financial wrong doing screaming that this homosexual hate is more financially risky to the board than their own directly financial wrongdoing? this is very strange. Nobody seems to want to address this.

Especially them or their DT pals lol ??

How can these same people be here  screaming this is serious grounds for not being on DT after what they and their friends they support on DT have done??

This place is like the twilight zone.

legendary
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Like any other user, he is free to leave negative ratings at will. He has little to no power in this system.

He was on DT2. That's relatively a fair amount of power.

It's not the hugest mistake in the world though as if one is expected to search a users entire post history for out of character drunken rants before including them..

The main problem I see is that TECSHARE included him specifically because Timelord excluded him. That's a dumb reason to add people to your trust list: because they are being excluded by other people... It should be about the contents of their trust ratings, and secondarily the contents of their trust lists... not about whether or not that person is being "harassed" by people you don't like.

I don't necessarily dislike gays if they are cool but I dislike flamers of any variety.. I've had gay friends but not so much ones you can tell are gay just by looking at them, or at the first sound of their voice.. No thanks.. Just my opinion..

If you are going to be tolerant I think you should be just as tolerant of the guy that doesn't like flamers as you are of the flamers themselves.. You don't have to like and befriend either one but respect their right to be whatever they are, but any sort of offensive violence coming from any camp is unacceptable and intolerable..

What does any of this have to do the trust system?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Quote from: link972387 date=7434041
I just came here because of the title, violent and homosexual do not belong to the same sentence or the same person, gays are weak like pussies and anyone can beat the hell out of them. I would do this for free that is how much I hate homosexuals.

I completely support his free speech right to state his/her opinion about gays but the last sentence is pushing it too far hinting about personally committing violence..
Looks like drunk posting..

That last sentence in that now redacted post, and some other inconsistencies of his brought up in the thread it originated from, lead me to believe he would infact be a mistake to be added to DT, but not because he doesn't like gays..
It's not the hugest mistake in the world though as if one is expected to search a users entire post history for out of character drunken rants before including them..

I don't necessarily dislike gays if they are cool but I dislike flamers of any variety.. I've had gay friends but not so much ones you can tell are gay just by looking at them, or at the first sound of their voice.. No thanks.. Just my opinion..

If you are going to be tolerant I think you should be just as tolerant of the guy that doesn't like flamers as you are of the flamers themselves.. You don't have to like and befriend either one but respect their right to be whatever they are, but any sort of offensive violence coming from any camp is unacceptable and intolerable..
legendary
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I admit, I don't like the words he used, however his words shouldn't be used as cover to take retribution for his deserved criticism of some of the DT members, which he was also very vocal about. Coincidentally everyone suddenly seemed to care about his post history at that time.
I agree, BitcoinSupremo should remove his -ve criticism from trust walls.
People shouldn't be penalized here for sharing ideas you don't agree with, they should be judged based on their actions.
I agree, BitcoinSupremo should be excluded from your trust network.

Like any other user, he is free to leave negative ratings at will. He has little to no power in this system. If he does start abusing any authority he has let me know and I will handle it one way or another. Until then, your complaints ring hollow and remain a transparent attack on my own reputation rather than a complaint about BitcoinSupremo.
legendary
Activity: 1932
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I admit, I don't like the words he used, however his words shouldn't be used as cover to take retribution for his deserved criticism of some of the DT members, which he was also very vocal about. Coincidentally everyone suddenly seemed to care about his post history at that time.
I agree, BitcoinSupremo should remove his -ve criticism from trust walls.
People shouldn't be penalized here for sharing ideas you don't agree with, they should be judged based on their actions.
I agree, BitcoinSupremo should be excluded from your trust network.
legendary
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Everyone who hate someone should come to USA to spread that hate and to say they would beat the hell out of them for free?
Hell no, there's too much hate already in this country--but people generally don't get beat up for expressing those kinds of sentiments unless they're at a rally or demonstration or something where the left and right wings mix on the streets.  You know, Antifa/SJWs, that sort of thing.

I certainly don't condone violence against gays, but as far as trusting a person who said those words in the OP....I guess it would depend on everything else the member has said and done.  I'm pretty sure those kinds of feelings are fairly prevalent in certain parts of the world, and it could just be internet bluster as well.  It would be a strike against them if I were deciding to add him to my trust list, and there's a good chance I wouldn't.  It all depends.

I admit, I don't like the words he used, however his words shouldn't be used as cover to take retribution for his deserved criticism of some of the DT members, which he was also very vocal about. Coincidentally everyone suddenly seemed to care about his post history at that time. People shouldn't be penalized here for sharing ideas you don't agree with, they should be judged based on their actions.
legendary
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Everyone who hate someone should come to USA to spread that hate and to say they would beat the hell out of them for free?
Hell no, there's too much hate already in this country--but people generally don't get beat up for expressing those kinds of sentiments unless they're at a rally or demonstration or something where the left and right wings mix on the streets.  You know, Antifa/SJWs, that sort of thing.

I certainly don't condone violence against gays, but as far as trusting a person who said those words in the OP....I guess it would depend on everything else the member has said and done.  I'm pretty sure those kinds of feelings are fairly prevalent in certain parts of the world, and it could just be internet bluster as well.  It would be a strike against them if I were deciding to add him to my trust list, and there's a good chance I wouldn't.  It all depends.
legendary
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Anyone who comes to the USA is allowed to say whatever the fuck they want as long as it is within the law.
What now?

Sounds exactly the same as any other country.

Clown Car 1, TECSHARE 0.

legendary
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You don't live in the USA? Sucks to be you.
Does it apply to everyone who does not live in USA or just me?
Sucks for anyone not free to speak.
Everyone who hate someone should come to USA to spread that hate and to say they would beat the hell out of them for free?
Anyone who comes to the USA is allowed to say whatever the fuck they want as long as it is within the law.
What now?
Vod
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Tomorrow (hopefully) he will learn the letter "D".   Smiley
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