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May 27, 2015, 02:08:44 AM
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For your notes:
A neutron bomb is a tactical nuke that beams neutrons to kill everything it shines on. At the same time it yields a smaller explosion than most nukes and so it kills the population without destroying the city. Small nukes like "suitcase bombs" are low yield atom bombs that destroy dams, bridges, military bases. They are still big explosions and spread radioactive dust everywhere.

This video is most definitely not a nuke of any kind. If a nuke had gone off you would not be at work today and the countries emergency alert system would be on, schools would be closed; you really can't exaggerate how big a deal it would be. It could quite easily lead to an Earth ending nuclear exchange by the end of the week.  

EDIT: Also, if a nuke of any kind went off then the entire world would know within hours. There is no way to hide the unique isotopes that would be produced. Every university with a physics department would detect this.
Well that explains it. I was surprised that the article said it was a nuke although I had not heard of it before. Wouldn't it be all over the news if it was one?
This is better I mean the poor people down there are already in trouble. We all know who is responsible for these wars.

Some say nuclear bombs don't actually exist at all. Just another manipulation scare tactic to control the masses.
Some people are just too paranoid. Do you believe in their existence?
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May 26, 2015, 10:55:51 PM
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Some say nuclear bombs don't actually exist at all. Just another manipulation scare tactic to control the masses.
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May 26, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
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What a load of horseshit.  Firstly, a vast percentage of the surface waters used to deal with the problems went straight into the ocean anyway.  Even if the water contained in whatever vessels they could cobble together blew up it would not amount to a hill of beans compared to the material scattered about with the explosion of Diachi-3 and otherwise dumped to wherever gravity dictated for lack of realistic options.  Secondly, cores seem have melted deeply into the ground making the ground-water highly contaminated.  That will be leaching into the ocean until the earth stops cooling.

There are a few spots on earth where it actually does make sense to dump nuclear waste and operate dangerous generation-early nuclear power plants since they are already fucked up beyond repair:  Fukushima, and to a lesser extent Chernobyl.  Probably the Former Soviet Union and China have some less well known places where they performed manufacturing processes and made the environment totally fucked up also.

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May 26, 2015, 03:58:14 PM
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remember how many died in japan's 2011 tsunami? about 18000 if i remember correctly. there is compelling evidence now present that it might have been a sabotage. especially the fact that fukushima is all hush hush and covered up dont serve them any purpose. anyone interested can take a look here:
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukureport1b.pdf

I was watching Fukushima like a hawk as it unfolded.  There is no reason to believe other than that a natural tsunami damaged the power systems needed to control the plants and they melted down.

Prior to Fukushima I basically bought the propaganda that even these old BW (boiling water) designs were safe in that they would shut down safely in all circumstances but deliberate and involved sabotage.  That was dead wrong.  We see now that these plants can do nothing other than experience a core meltdown if they lose power.

Worse still, even an un-fueled plant of this design (of which we have plenty here in the U.S.) can and will suffer a spent fuel pool fire in the simple absense of loss of power if it persists long enough, or in the event that a sufficiently large hole in the pool container is produced.  These pools hold many years worth of cooling spent fuel.  Our Western design geniuses use this design (spent fuel on the roof) because it makes fuel rod handling cheaper.

Something I already knew is that in most ways a nuclear power facility is much more dangerous than a nuclear weapon because a weapon needs to be deliverable and thus contains MUCH less radioactive material by mass.

Even before Diachi-3 (burning MOX fuel containing plutonium) exploded I was arguing that it should be deliberately demolished because it was much better to have shattered material around the site than fire atomized material going into the atmosphere.  I could not help but notice that the U.S. helped out be sending in a barge with 'water' in a small-ish tote container to 'help with cooling'.  Not long after (iirc) there was an explosion which was absolutely not a hydrogen explosion (as Diachi-1 probably was) and fractured fuel rods strewn around the site.  I still don't know if they came from the core or the pools, but they came from one or the other.  If they demo'd Diachi-3 it was a heroic effort which may well have saved Tokyo and it would be a shame that whoever performed it did not get appropriate recognition.

edit: plural meltdowns

just read the document and you'll encounter an extra angle to this matter. very insightful.

Glanced at it.  I'll read it in more detail later (I'm hoping to get something productive done today.)  Basically there was and is almost total bullshit produced by the corp/gov media about the event.  Much of it that I noticed in skimming the article is nothing new to me.  I (seemingly alone) wonder if Diachi-3 was deliberately exploded so I'll read the guy's evidence with some interest.

The simplest explanation for the deception is that TPTB were and are fairly desperate to avoid having the sheeple realize how fucking retarded it is to have these ancient nuclear power plant designs humming away in their country because it would cost a lot of people a lot of money, and because we (and Japan) need a constant supply of plutonium for 'pits' to maintain our nuclear arsenals and these old plants satisfy that need.

I'm a dedicated 'conspiracy hypothesist', but I've never doubted that the Tōhoku earthquake and resulting tsunami was a completely natural event, and I very much doubt that some hay could be made in staging a nuclear power plant meltdown as a result of it given the timings.  Nor do I see any particularly valuable win in doing so.  I would not rule out the possibility that certain kinds of geo-engineering could trigger an earthquake that was close to happening naturally, but again, I see little reason for doing so and no evidence that it was done.  I've also not looked very hard though.  I see not reason to.

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May 26, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
#22
Here is another angle of the ammo dump in Sanaa blowing up. That is what you are seeing. It happened a few weeks ago, if I remember correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep3c8Xe0FRU

Mystery solved, thanks.
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May 26, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
#21
all world's media is controlled by few. if you have invested into this war only the 'right' info would get out. ether way, innocent people are caught up in this. what difference does it make how powerful the explosion is or whether its a nuke or not? i just literally passed on the info that i read - not trying to prove anything here to be honest. the reaction i get here is exactly the problem with this world today. we just accept these thing trying to argue who is right or wrong - it frankly doesnt matter as long as our taxes and actions support the empire's killing machine. the sheer ignorance of some indoctrinated masses is just unbearable sometimes. its easy to put people into the 'conspiracy nut job' box and be done with it. too easy. imagine an explosion like this in your neighbourhood - just imagine..

Bah.  None of this have to do with the subject.  

Assertion.  It was asserted to be a nuclear explosion.

And that was false.

Has nothing to do with media being controlled, who accepts what, what the problems with the world are, or the ignorance of some indoctrinated masses.

Agreed. You say a nuke goes off, that has huge geopolitical repercussions all across the globe. Asserting a nuke going off is a BIG DEAL, which is why the fact that it's not a nuke is relevant- in fact, it's now the only relevant fact in this thread.
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May 26, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
#20
all world's media is controlled by few. if you have invested into this war only the 'right' info would get out. ether way, innocent people are caught up in this. what difference does it make how powerful the explosion is or whether its a nuke or not? i just literally passed on the info that i read - not trying to prove anything here to be honest. the reaction i get here is exactly the problem with this world today. we just accept these thing trying to argue who is right or wrong - it frankly doesnt matter as long as our taxes and actions support the empire's killing machine. the sheer ignorance of some indoctrinated masses is just unbearable sometimes. its easy to put people into the 'conspiracy nut job' box and be done with it. too easy. imagine an explosion like this in your neighbourhood - just imagine..

Bah.  None of this have to do with the subject. 

Assertion.  It was asserted to be a nuclear explosion.

And that was false.

Has nothing to do with media being controlled, who accepts what, what the problems with the world are, or the ignorance of some indoctrinated masses.
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May 26, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
#19
Here is another angle of the ammo dump in Sanaa blowing up. That is what you are seeing. It happened a few weeks ago, if I remember correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep3c8Xe0FRU
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May 26, 2015, 03:34:59 PM
#18
remember how many died in japan's 2011 tsunami? about 18000 if i remember correctly. there is compelling evidence now present that it might have been a sabotage. especially the fact that fukushima is all hush hush and covered up dont serve them any purpose. anyone interested can take a look here:
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukureport1b.pdf

I was watching Fukushima like a hawk as it unfolded.  There is no reason to believe other than that a natural tsunami damaged the power systems needed to control the plants and they melted down.

Prior to Fukushima I basically bought the propaganda that even these old BW (boiling water) designs were safe in that they would shut down safely in all circumstances but deliberate and involved sabotage.  That was dead wrong.  We see now that these plants can do nothing other than experience a core meltdown if they lose power.

Worse still, even an un-fueled plant of this design (of which we have plenty here in the U.S.) can and will suffer a spent fuel pool fire in the simple absense of loss of power if it persists long enough, or in the event that a sufficiently large hole in the pool container is produced.  These pools hold many years worth of cooling spent fuel.  Our Western design geniuses use this design (spent fuel on the roof) because it makes fuel rod handling cheaper.

Something I already knew is that in most ways a nuclear power facility is much more dangerous than a nuclear weapon because a weapon needs to be deliverable and thus contains MUCH less radioactive material by mass.

Even before Diachi-3 (burning MOX fuel containing plutonium) exploded I was arguing that it should be deliberately demolished because it was much better to have shattered material around the site than fire atomized material going into the atmosphere.  I could not help but notice that the U.S. helped out be sending in a barge with 'water' in a small-ish tote container to 'help with cooling'.  Not long after (iirc) there was an explosion which was absolutely not a hydrogen explosion (as Diachi-1 probably was) and fractured fuel rods strewn around the site.  I still don't know if they came from the core or the pools, but they came from one or the other.  If they demo'd Diachi-3 it was a heroic effort which may well have saved Tokyo and it would be a shame that whoever performed it did not get appropriate recognition.

edit: plural meltdowns

just read the document and you'll encounter an extra angle to this matter. very insightful.
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May 26, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
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remember how many died in japan's 2011 tsunami? about 18000 if i remember correctly. there is compelling evidence now present that it might have been a sabotage. especially the fact that fukushima is all hush hush and covered up dont serve them any purpose. anyone interested can take a look here:
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukureport1b.pdf

I was watching Fukushima like a hawk as it unfolded.  There is no reason to believe other than that a natural tsunami damaged the power systems needed to control the plants and they melted down.

Prior to Fukushima I basically bought the propaganda that even these old BW (boiling water) designs were safe in that they would shut down safely in all circumstances but deliberate and involved sabotage.  That was dead wrong.  We see now that these plants can do nothing other than experience a core meltdown if they lose power.

Worse still, even an un-fueled plant of this design (of which we have plenty here in the U.S.) can and will suffer a spent fuel pool fire in the simple absense of loss of power if it persists long enough, or in the event that a sufficiently large hole in the pool container is produced.  These pools hold many years worth of cooling spent fuel.  Our Western design geniuses use this design (spent fuel on the roof) because it makes fuel rod handling cheaper.

Something I already knew is that in most ways a nuclear power facility is much more dangerous than a nuclear weapon because a weapon needs to be deliverable and thus contains MUCH less radioactive material by mass.

Even before Diachi-3 (burning MOX fuel containing plutonium) exploded I was arguing that it should be deliberately demolished because it was much better to have shattered material around the site than fire atomized material going into the atmosphere.  I could not help but notice that the U.S. helped out be sending in a barge with 'water' in a small-ish tote container to 'help with cooling'.  Not long after (iirc) there was an explosion which was absolutely not a hydrogen explosion (as Diachi-1 probably was) and fractured fuel rods strewn around the site.  I still don't know if they came from the core or the pools, but they came from one or the other.  If they demo'd Diachi-3 it was a heroic effort which may well have saved Tokyo and it would be a shame that whoever performed it did not get appropriate recognition.

edit: plural meltdowns
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May 26, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
#16
remember how many died in japan's 2011 tsunami? about 18000 if i remember correctly. there is compelling evidence now present that it might have been a sabotage. especially the fact that fukushima is all hush hush and covered up dont serve them any purpose. anyone interested can take a look here:
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukureport1b.pdf
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May 26, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
#15
For your notes:
A neutron bomb is a tactical nuke that beams neutrons to kill everything it shines on. At the same time it yields a smaller explosion than most nukes and so it kills the population without destroying the city. Small nukes like "suitcase bombs" are low yield atom bombs that destroy dams, bridges, military bases. They are still big explosions and spread radioactive dust everywhere.

This video is most definitely not a nuke of any kind. If a nuke had gone off you would not be at work today and the countries emergency alert system would be on, schools would be closed; you really can't exaggerate how big a deal it would be. It could quite easily lead to an Earth ending nuclear exchange by the end of the week.  

EDIT: Also, if a nuke of any kind went off then the entire world would know within hours. There is no way to hide the unique isotopes that would be produced. Every university with a physics department would detect this.
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May 26, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
#14
all world's media is controlled by few. if you have invested into this war only the 'right' info would get out. ether way, innocent people are caught up in this. what difference does it make how powerful the explosion is or whether its a nuke or not? i just literally passed on the info that i read - not trying to prove anything here to be honest. the reaction i get here is exactly the problem with this world today. we just accept these thing trying to argue who is right or wrong - it frankly doesnt matter as long as our taxes and actions support the empire's killing machine. the sheer ignorance of some indoctrinated masses is just unbearable sometimes. its easy to put people into the 'conspiracy nut job' box and be done with it. too easy. imagine an explosion like this in your neighbourhood - just imagine..
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May 26, 2015, 02:29:48 PM
#13
Hey, we need more proof than this low-res video to get scared or raise alarm. There are still a few journalists in Yemen, how come nobody reported anything about an atomic explosion, if this was real?
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May 26, 2015, 02:26:36 PM
#12
i think you guys should understand that the theories are about a mini nuke or neutron bomb as far as i understand.
both of them exist and they have a much smaller explosive power then for example the "fat man" and the "little boy"/ regular nukes.


example for mini nukes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29 build 1956

*edit ha even found a nice video from the DoD about it: https://youtu.be/eiM-RzPHyGs

maximum explosive power ~1 kt tnt.

neutron bombs have also a maximum explosive power ~1 kt tnt.

in relation "fat man" and "little boy" had an explosive power of 21 kt tnt or respectively 12,5 kt tnt
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May 26, 2015, 02:12:50 PM
#11

Pfft.  Not a nuke, and not even one of the smallest tactical ones (used to bust into a bunkers...and being spun as 'safe' and 'humane' by our recent Western propaganda efforts which should put us on the alert.)

This is (or was) an ammo dump or magazine and not even a terribly large one.  The reaction is clearly chemical from conventional explosives.

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May 26, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
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Neutron bomb dropped by IAF plane with Saudi markings...

Lol. The plane must be on a high enough altitude to drop a neutron bomb, and the explosion per se could possibly wipe a whole city--the one who took the video included--without a trace (clue: Hiroshima and Nagasaki).

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Jeff Smith is a nuclear physicist and former IAEA inspector.

Even a man without that much of a technical knowledge in the field of nuclear physics could easily differentiate what a nuclear explosion is from just a normal bomb explosion.
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May 26, 2015, 12:47:07 PM
#9
Who would believe this?  Cheesy

Conspiracy theory whack jobs no doubt? I'm sure Alex Jones is working on a video about it as we speak (or type).
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May 26, 2015, 12:43:26 PM
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Who would believe this?  Cheesy
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