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Topic: Nutildah -willing to facilitate scammers for around 300bucks?? deleting evidence - page 2. (Read 1550 times)

legendary
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have fun in real life, spend little time in the forum, this will do you great. looking at post history of all DT members, looking for things to attack some DT member will not do you any good, will just stress you. don't you agree with the system? so just stay away from this forum or just ignore anything that some DT member that you think is wrong to do. that's very simple
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He tried to sell his account on a year when account selling wasn't even a thing and he did posted it on his account, nutildah, which only says that he ain't an account seller. Like how other DT members views it they only tag account seller that are just account farmers who basically are just here selling off other farmed accounts to make a living. Based on the archived you gave and how nutildah is still posting today it only means the account wasn't sold at all so basically a sale didn't even happen, there was only an attempt to do so.

Not true at all. See Bill Gator. Also, what evidence do you have it was not sold? The seller's word? If the current users in control of the default trust didn't have double standards, they would have no standards at all. They regularly abuse their authority to protect their own positions and that of their supporters while using any excuse to bury their critics while the few good members on it turn a blind eye in order to protect their own status.

Should though we really class these other "good members" as " good choices" for DT since they will turn a blind eye and allow this to continue for their own selfish gain?

I'm not so sure?

The core group of scammers and scammer supporters for pay are so entrenched now in DT that even if a "good member" would speak up on DT they would likely be removed from DT pretty swiftly. Even the designer and warden here will not really dare debate the folly of the entire thing since it is pretty much undeniably a total failure.

The problem is most people simply have zero back bone and weak minds. How could one ever possibly think to decentralize power among such dregs without removing nearly every shred of possible subjectivity from the system. Instead he makes it 100% subjective lol

Where is anonymint of some kind member with more than a one day course in game theory to demonstrate clearly the entire thing is bogus and folly? I mean it is fine point out the results so far a pretty much 100% fail, but he seems to be hanging on for some kind of self healing from the system that is NEVER going to arrive at this rate. Plus he just keeps hamstringing it more with more and more merit based weightings.

Anyway nutildah realizing people are referencing his post as clear evidence of willing scam facilitating (when taken in the context of his prior rantings of how he is sure selling an account is facilitating scammers and is evil)  has now edited it and his thread title to better explain he has changed his mind and it is annoying that people are even turning up to the view the details of the evidence THAT ARE NOW DELETED. LOL

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He tried to sell his account on a year when account selling wasn't even a thing and he did posted it on his account, nutildah, which only says that he ain't an account seller. Like how other DT members views it they only tag account seller that are just account farmers who basically are just here selling off other farmed accounts to make a living. Based on the archived you gave and how nutildah is still posting today it only means the account wasn't sold at all so basically a sale didn't even happen, there was only an attempt to do so.

Not true at all. See Bill Gator. Also, what evidence do you have it was not sold? The seller's word? If the current users in control of the default trust didn't have double standards, they would have no standards at all. They regularly abuse their authority to protect their own positions and that of their supporters while using any excuse to bury their critics while the few good members on it turn a blind eye in order to protect their own status.
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Nutildah edited his old posts and he knows that it was already archived.
According to you, he is a scammer and shouldn't be trusted, right?
Now, what do you say about someone who dropped his main account and created a new one just because it is hard to edit 13657 posts?
Who should we believe?
CH you are a great person. Just forget about merits and trust and act normally.
You are fighting for the wrong cause.

@ theb

Your point is invalid. Please read the thread. This is about a determined willingness to facilitate scamming for a price. NOT JUST SELLING AN ACCOUNT. Please read the entire thread. This all boils down to financially motivated wrongdoing .

THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

@ khaled0111

knows it is archived? so what? people are not essentially to know this or even bother checking his trust list.  Why change a post nearly 4 years after the event that is linked to many times as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing??  to try to put a better spin on it.

What was the price of bitcoin when he was willing to facilitate scamming and EVIL members for 0.3 BTC dust?  does not take much does it? is that even 20 pieces of silver?? scam buster to willing scam facilitator for 0.3btc or perhaps less. No takers though apparently lol

Let us stick to the topic and to what we can prove is UNDENIABLE.

You point regarding a member finding it hard to edit 13657 posts is irrelevant and has no meaning at all.  Financially motivated wrong doing will certainly not be found there.

Fighting for the wrong cause?

So you say a person like nutildah who screams that account selling is evil and facilitates scamming and is so sure about it he is going to start his own thread and trace them down and make sure people don't deal with them........BUT THEN decides for 0.3btc he will turn evil and facilitate scams himself is NOT a financially high risk member?

One that then alters the very incriminating post and thread title years later only after it is becoming a huge issue for him now that he wants to punish people for lesser crimes?  say oh i need to change this because people who I punish are linking to this thread so I don't like that and am going to change it ??

You say fighting scum bags like this and fighting for a transparent set of rules that ensures fair treatment of all members is the wrong fight??  the wrong cause you say??

@suchmoron

We will take from your merit to that above post that you are supporting scammers and members that undeniably will willingly facilitate scaming for a price  editing their posts have been linked to as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing.

Is that why you are giving merit suchmoon? you think it is not shady for scammers/scam facilitators to alter their incriminating posts that are linked to as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing?
That's interesting.

I wonder if you are including such willing scam facilitators on your DT inclusions?  suchscamsupporter?

Dare not get involved in the debate since it will come down the same yes or no end game as moronbozo, so just hides away sniping with merits. What a pathetic fool.



legendary
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Nutildah edited his old posts and he knows that it was already archived.
According to you, he is a scammer and shouldn't be trusted, right?
Now, what do you say about someone who dropped his main account and created a new one just because it is hard to edit 13657 posts?
Who should we believe?
CH you are a great person. Just forget about merits and trust and act normally.
You are fighting for the wrong cause.
hero member
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He tried to sell his account on a year when account selling wasn't even a thing and he did posted it on his account, nutildah, which only says that he ain't an account seller. Like how other DT members views it they only tag account seller that are just account farmers who basically are just here selling off other farmed accounts to make a living. Based on the archived you gave and how nutildah is still posting today it only means the account wasn't sold at all so basically a sale didn't even happen, there was only an attempt to do so.
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If you have scraped the board even a couple of months ago you should have the unedited post should you not?
I don't scrape the entire board, only new posts (from Recent Posts).

Ah okay, understood.
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If you have scraped the board even a couple of months ago you should have the unedited post should you not?
I don't scrape the entire board, only new posts (from Recent Posts).
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Do you think you will always be a troll? Yes or NO? Don't be afraid to answer. Anyway:
The statement is from our POV which we believe you are trying to express.
I already expressed everything I wanted to express here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52663732, it is not my fault that you are unable to read.

!!!FEAR!!!

You see how answering yes or no is so difficult for moron bozo? we strike terror into this poor servile wretch. Dare not answer it seems. He knows we will slap him around with that forever if he says YES. If he says no then he is damning his pal nutildah to being more shady than he already is.  No way out in the yes or no game for moron bozo.

colluding scum.

Poor guy, how embarrassing to fear in public  answering yes or no Sad

Trying to derail now Sad

Back to the spamming of words attack vector you devious devil... you are almost there now. It will not be long now before you have irrefutable evidence of spamming words.
Meanwhile supporting scammers and fearing to answer yes or no to a simple question.

Look how easy it is

We will indulge your off topic derailing for one answer only.

NO we are not trolls, therefore we could not remain something we were not in the first place.

Now back on topic please. Make a trolling thread about us if you like. Not here though.  Derailing often also shows fear of the central points being made.

Fear!!!!!!!!!!!!



legendary
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Do you think you will always be a troll? Yes or NO? Don't be afraid to answer. Anyway:
The statement is from our POV which we believe you are trying to express.
I already expressed everything I wanted to express here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52663732, it is not my fault that you are unable to read.
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Anyway first answer yes or no and stop being scared of us. YES OR NO?? it is totally acceptable for them to edit it or not.

You are setting a precedent for scammers to be able to edit the evidence of their scam posts. They can leave out details and change the entire perception of the ORIGINAL INCIDENT and many details the honest member should be entitled to read.
Why would I answer question after you said that I said something?

Here we witness fear to answer yes or no.

I feel it is your in ability to comprehend English. Let us clairfy. The statement is from our POV which we believe you are trying to express. Hence the question on the end to verify.

Stop being afraid moron bozo

Yes or NO?  now that you understand.
legendary
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Anyway first answer yes or no and stop being scared of us. YES OR NO?? it is totally acceptable for them to edit it or not.

You are setting a precedent for scammers to be able to edit the evidence of their scam posts. They can leave out details and change the entire perception of the ORIGINAL INCIDENT and many details the honest member should be entitled to read.
Why would I answer question after you said that I said something?
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This is nothing special.
DT1 members often like to keep their threads up to date
for example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.954234
has been edited many many times.
Yep another great excuse here everyone
You will never guess why I merited that post  Smiley

the rest of your post is confusing as usual.
If you could point me to part which you find confusing, I will try to explain it better, but please don't spam random nonsense.

then tries to sell his account for 0.3btc
At least post correct information, which you can find in archived link which you asked for. I suppose that you have read it.

Thanks for reporting it you good little croatian dog. Keep yapping, and reporting like a pathetic servile snitch
Reporting your post emotionally satisfied me.

YOU say it is fine for scammers/scam facilitators to edit the evidence of thier scams after they have been busted and that is not shady behavior at all. I mean they leave them there for years on end BUT then when someone really starts to bring it to light years later they can edit them if they want, and that is totally acceptable and does not look shady. Is that what you are saying moronbozo? Yes or NO.

I am happy for you to say YES so please don't hold back.
You did it again. You said that I said something then you asked me am I saying it.

So lets see about this "EDITING HIS POST HISTORY TO HIDE HIS ACCOUNT SELLING PAST??".

What do we know from edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.
What did we know from not edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.

Where is "hiding past" part?

Let's skip past the rest of your off topic turd world blathering and ask you to say YES or NO. Scammers that get busted can go and edit their scam post after they find themselves busted years later and it does not look shady at all?

YES OR NO

Just answer what are you afraid of?

then we can try to hammer out your other non points.

HIS REASONING IS STATED CLEARLY



(Occasionally after exposing a fraud or a charlatan for what they are they leave me a negative feedback with a link to this thread, which is likely why you are here. Congratulations!)

when i bust others for " apparent" scams then they respond with a link to my willingness to facilitate scams for 0.3btc  - So now I notice they are linking to this evidence I will adjust it so it looks better for me and make a weird excuse for needing to change it. As if they are WRONG to be linking to it and it NEEDS to be changed for that reason. Knowing people have started linking to it for his trust abuse in many cases he decides to adapt his original post. People linking to it and mentioning the other details that WERE there before now could have been making those up.

LOL whatever the reason you can not be allowed to edit the very evidence that is there demonstrating your observable financially motivated wrong doing without it looking very shady.

Anyway first answer yes or no and stop being scared of us. YES OR NO?? it is totally acceptable for them to edit it or not.  The entire context and perception of the incident is being changed and excuses for adaption given. DISGUSTING.

You are setting a precedent for scammers to be able to edit the evidence of their scam posts. They can leave out details and change the entire perception of the ORIGINAL INCIDENT and many details the honest member should be entitled to read.

Your points seem valid to you. That is because you are incapable of seeing past the end of your nose, hence why you are called moron bozo and it is befitting. We will get into that after you answer yes or no. Also what does and does not emotionally sate you is rather worrying lol. You poor filthy wretch.
legendary
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This is nothing special.
DT1 members often like to keep their threads up to date
for example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.954234
has been edited many many times.
Yep another great excuse here everyone
You will never guess why I merited that post  Smiley

the rest of your post is confusing as usual.
If you could point me to part which you find confusing, I will try to explain it better, but please don't spam random nonsense.

then tries to sell his account for 0.3btc
At least post correct information, which you can find in archived link which you asked for. I suppose that you have read it.

Thanks for reporting it you good little croatian dog. Keep yapping, and reporting like a pathetic servile snitch
Reporting your post emotionally satisfied me.

YOU say it is fine for scammers/scam facilitators to edit the evidence of thier scams after they have been busted and that is not shady behavior at all. I mean they leave them there for years on end BUT then when someone really starts to bring it to light years later they can edit them if they want, and that is totally acceptable and does not look shady. Is that what you are saying moronbozo? Yes or NO.

I am happy for you to say YES so please don't hold back.
You did it again. You said that I said something then you asked me am I saying it.

So lets see about this "EDITING HIS POST HISTORY TO HIDE HIS ACCOUNT SELLING PAST??".

What do we know from edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.
What did we know from not edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.

Where is "hiding past" part?
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This is nothing special.
DT1 members often like to keep their threads up to date
for example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.954234
has been edited many many times.

Yep another great excuse here everyone

Up to date ... deletes scamming attempt - decided not to scam now thanks for reading.

I changed it 3 years later after I was busted for it because I like to keep things up to date.

This is EVIDENCE of willful willingness to facilitate scams for money. Not just any post.

This post is a classic also I wonder when this gets edited - nutildah in 2014 saying it is evil and facilitates scams if you offer your account for sale. ... then tries to sell his account for 0.3btc

Imagine being SO SURE account selling is going to result in people being scammed and how you are going to make your own threads and report everyone who does it.... BUT WAIT for 0.3 BTC you will help ensure people get scammed and turn evil too hahaha

new scammer can always alter that thread to say no longer for sale was just kidding? or if it does not sell I will just change it myself to only kidding I changed my mind on the OP  either way just updating right? updating is allowed.

It is commonly known that people buy and sell accounts. It is illogical to assume this.  

Wrong. It is NOT commonly known, especially among noobs. I didn't know about it until a month ago or so, and then I couldn't believe that it was actively being endorsed by the mods.


Regardless of if this is true or not, it is very immature to give something more weight just because a certain person said it; you should listen to specific arguments and facts not who is making the statement.

Huh? Do you understand that people trade based on the rep of the username alone all the time? Regardless of your feelings on the subject, people do this every day all the time. If Satoshi came on here and said something I sure as hell would give it a lot more weight than when you say something. Even if I disagreed with what he was saying.


In order to impersonate an identity, you would need to not own that identity in the first place. When you use the term impersonate you are implying that the identity does not belong to the poster, but in fact it does.

But this is obfuscated by the fact that most people don't know that they are reading the words of a bought account. There is no honesty or redeemable qualities in your arguments, you're simply trying to defend borderline evil behavior for your own selfish financial reasons.




Fixed. I've still yet to see any proof of accounts being sold to be used for 'mass propganda'.

Who cares what the person is gonna do with the account? Whatever it is, it is BULLSHIT because they are pretending to be a different person. This makes them a liar, an impostor, a bullshitter.

And here you are a staff member defending this behavior.

You guys are greedy beyond belief. What would Satoshi say if he read about this? I can't help but think he would say you destroyed the original intention of his forum and turned it into a breeding ground for scum and villainy.




I think the main rationale and reasoning for allowing accounts to be sold is because allowing them lets others know that the practice can and does go on and banning them may give people a false sense of security, not to mention banning their sale will not stop the behaviour from happening and only push it further underground and into obscurity.

This forum also doesn't moderate or ban scammers, but that doesn't mean we allow or encourage them nor do we profit from it in any way from it.


Still, you are impersonating somebody unless you disclaim that you bought their account, which never happens. So buying accounts is a 100% dishonest manuver. Its never been used for an honest purpose because pretending to be somebody you are not is lying.

I dunno, while I appreciate your explanation, it still just seems that you are sticking up for criminals at the end of the day. I really don't understand how you guys can live with yourselves knowing how many crimes are committed here on a daily basis. I certainly hope you don't actually believe you are contributing to some benevolent force in the world because you are not.

You're just telling thieves and scammers its OK to be a thief and scammer here. In the end it will decrease your revenue, not mine.

Monitoring is underway.

I'm collecting two lists, one of account sellers and the other of account buyers. I will be sure to post this information, links and dates so everybody can see who to avoid from now on.

CANT WAIT FOR NUTILDAH TO UPDATE THESE POSTS ABOVE...

ERR UPDATE TO WHAT?? IT IS OKAY TO SELL ACCOUNTS AND YOU ARE NOT EVIL AND FACILITATING SCAMS NOW??

haha updating, the cure for any attempted scam.



This is the reason people archive scammers posts they reference because they may want to keep them up to date by putting.. no longer wanted to scam people really just kidding before. I changed this now because people kept using my post as evidence I was trying to scam people. However now you all know I never really wanted to scam people it's all cool right. Please stop using this as evidence against me because it won't work as well now.

Just keeping you up to date on things. Many regards nutildahs twin pajeet.


@moron bozo

please do not derail with the " spamming of words" theory you are working on. Spamming words, does seem like a promising angle to weaponize. I would dedicate lots more time to this if I were you. Where is the spamming of words thread? This will be a lot of fun. Just don't try to go off topic and derail this thread with that theory now please or we will report it and if not deleted we will bring that to meta for examination.

the rest of your post is confusing as usual. Please keep on topic.

Thanks for reporting it you good little croatian dog. Keep yapping, and reporting like a pathetic servile snitch of course, but keep it on topic. We enjoy every bump even from the lowest form of pathetic dreg here.

Keep coming up with brilliant new excuses. You have now your very first untrustworthy example we will shove in your turd world gob every time we feel like it. Well aside from you directly supporting scammers on to dt1 previously. But then that is just every dt1 member nearly so that is not so outstanding now.

YOU say it is fine for scammers/scam facilitators to edit the evidence of thier scams after they have been busted and that is not shady behavior at all. I mean they leave them there for years on end BUT then when someone really starts to bring it to light years later they can edit them if they want, and that is totally acceptable and does not look shady. Is that what you are saying moronbozo? Yes or NO.

I am happy for you to say YES so please don't hold back.
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so moronbozo says

It is acceptable for DT1 members to edit the proof that confirms they are guilty of financially motivated wrong doing and it does NOT look shady. It is only strange that a person may mention this move to edit the original form of evidence after many years.

Is that what you are saying moronbozo?
You spammed random words, then you said I said them and then you asked me am I saying this.

They referenced it??  so now when you click the link you get a different heading and different text to what they referenced hey?? that is useful.
I am pretty sure they linked archived thread, I would have posted it but you said that "you won't click my offsite links because I am untrustworthy" so why would I waste my time posting something you won't click?

Moronbozo for you everyone.  
Looks like your post. Are you me?

WOW that was deleted fast by the scum bag mods and some fucking piece of shit reporter
I reported it, multiposting is not allowed.


EDIT:
2. one person has archived it (lucky right)
How many persons have to archive it to become archived enough for you?
legendary
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This is nothing special.
DT1 members often like to keep their threads up to date
for example https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.954234
has been edited many many times.
member
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Merit: 56
not to mention that it was archived few times  
my advice is always the same OP slow down read digest, then post again.
https://archive.is/BBMFH

This is on Nutildahs trust page. So they provided you with the answer you were looking for, you just had to look.

It is good that is had been archived. The entire point of archiving scammers posts as evidence is PRECISELY because you know scammers will edit them once busted LOL

This is scammer style 101.

It does NOT alter the fact that nutildah edited the thread title and body text that he knows is prime evidence of his financially motivated wrong doing.

This is shady as fuck. I wonder what other edits he has been making of late??

How about all scammers just start changing their scam posts to whatever they want after they get busted??  we will say that is totally fine right?

This is a DT1 member. A MOST TRUSTED member of the entire board. Haha

If you are all going to make up excuses for this. All the better for us. We will simply be presenting those excuses over and over and over.

It's okay to edit your scam posts after you are busted because.

1. some people already know in meta
2. one person has archived it (lucky right)
3. It has been mentioned enough ffs

keep them coming guys....these are going to be gems at some point.

Changing years old posts once people demonstrate they are evidence of financially motivated wrong doing is TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE PRACTICE BY DT1 members. You heard it here first.
legendary
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not to mention that it was archived few times 
my advice is always the same OP slow down read digest, then post again.
https://archive.is/BBMFH

This is on Nutildahs trust page. So they provided you with the answer you were looking for, you just had to look.
member
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You said it so many times that probably every "guest" who has never registered account here knows this, not to mention that it was archived few times and someone linked it on nutildahz trust page. What is the point of creating another thread for something you mentioned at least 500000 times in your posts?

brilliant excuse moronbozo are you like the croatian version of johnny cochran?

so moronbozo says

It is acceptable for DT1 members to edit the proof that confirms they are guilty of financially motivated wrong doing and it does NOT look shady. It is only strange that a person may mention this move to edit the original form of evidence after many years.

Is that what you are saying moronbozo?

If someone presents observable evidence of past financially motivated wrong doing of DT1 then it is acceptable for them to alter that evidence and you should not even be allowed to mention it.

Watch them all club together to say

1. it is perfectly acceptable
2. you should not be mentioning it because ..... err you mentioned something different earlier.

what a bunch of scum bags.

If any non DT members was busted for financially motivated wrong doing and then after being busted altered the evidence they would be screaming how shady that was.

They referenced it??  so now when you click the link you get a different heading and different text to what they referenced hey?? that is useful.

All scammers should do this, just change the text that DT members reference as evidence of  what DT members class as " financially dangerous" which can range from whistle blowing to deleting unsubstantiated allegations from their own self moderated threads,  etc.

Moronbozo for you everyone. Prior DT1 and scam hunter.  

@raymun

thanks for that, would have given you more merits if we had many ourselves to give. Sadly merits are with held from posts that present the truth generally where we post.

here it is...

http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0
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Name:   nutildah
Posts:   2152
Activity:   560
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   April 19, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Trust:   0: -0 / +0

My posts were frequently contentious and sometimes downright argumentative, but that's because I'm a real person who was genuinely interested in bitcoin and this forum, and I wasn't just trying to build up an account to sell it or do sig campaigns.

Its a completely anonymous account, never been linked to my real identity. I stopped posting for the most part about 6 months ago.

I would like 0.3 BTC for it.

You can get back to me here or via PM. Thanks!
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WOW that was deleted fast by the scum bag mods and some fucking piece of shit reporter, no double posting LOL  okay we will just add it all here then.

funny though we notice a NEW GEM here. Nutildah or seems to have a had a big change of heart on spamming sig campaigns right?? that pajeet is all over ANY sig campaign that will have him even disputing flags that are made against his scampaigns  LOL

Really a bitcoin enthusiast NOT HERE SELL MY ACCOUNT OR TO DO SIG CAMPAIGNS.... OH REALLY HuhHuhHuh  So then I just tried to sell it and can't stop spamming sig scampaigns  hahaha
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