NVIDIA has reportedly removed LHR from its newest drivers - page 2.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 20, 2022, 08:03:54 PM

Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.

If you bought an LHR video card, then what claims can you have against the video card manufacturer?
The LHR limitation did not affect gaming performance, and the claims do not apply to commercial activities on video cards for home use.

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Is this confirmed now? I haven’t downloaded the latest drivers to try but I would if this is true. Granted I’m not mining now anyway, but I’m still curious. I wonder if there have been any lawsuits filed against Nvidia for this limiting of their hardware. It seems like some legal guru out there could probably put together a decent class action lawsuit if they were bored enough. Especially now that it’s been (allegedly) unlocked since ETH mining is no longer a thing.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 15, 2022, 10:48:10 PM

Quote from: swogerino on October 15, 2022, 04:38:10 AM

Quote from: adaseb on October 14, 2022, 10:42:30 PM

Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.

So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.

I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more.

I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago.

Nvidia didn’t benefit whether the card sold at MSRP or 3x over. The only ones that did benefit were the ones flipping them. Or perhaps some online retailers who marked them up a little. They sold their GPUs mostly to AIB for a fixed cost. So if it sold below, at or above MSRP they made the same amount of money.

Sure it was good for their business. I remember years ago before mining, computer stores had tons of GPUs because nobody bought them, people played on Xbox instead. So how will they do now? Will they survive? Sure but their profits will definitely be much much lower than before.

Hell yeah they benefited from it. I know person made deal with msi directly one day later they changed price he asked why? Msi answered nvidia did price up because eth price last night pumped Grin

it happened with rtx3000 series. They made fortune this time.

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Too late, Nvidia knew that mining Ethereum is no more working on its graphic cards and other algorithms are not profitable, well played Nvidia well played, there is no reason to be excited about the unlock. Crazy people

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Quote from: swogerino on October 15, 2022, 04:38:10 AM

Quote from: adaseb on October 14, 2022, 10:42:30 PM

Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.

So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.

I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more.

I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago.

Nvidia didn’t benefit whether the card sold at MSRP or 3x over. The only ones that did benefit were the ones flipping them. Or perhaps some online retailers who marked them up a little. They sold their GPUs mostly to AIB for a fixed cost. So if it sold below, at or above MSRP they made the same amount of money.

Sure it was good for their business. I remember years ago before mining, computer stores had tons of GPUs because nobody bought them, people played on Xbox instead. So how will they do now? Will they survive? Sure but their profits will definitely be much much lower than before.

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It's natural but late, since LHR was already hacked by miners.
I don't know about the cash of Nvidia but there's no miners to buy every single piece of hardware anymore.
There's no AAA games to sell cards.
RTX 4XXX is very expensive and there are good amount of offer in used market (RTX 2xxx, RTX 3xxx etc)

There's Intel GPUs, and there's AMD's new GPUs

Hacker already broke the new "exclusive" DLLS3

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Quote from: swogerino on October 15, 2022, 04:38:10 AM

Quote from: adaseb on October 14, 2022, 10:42:30 PM

Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.

So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.

I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more.

I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago.

I am sure that Nvidia will not sponsor ETHW and other ethereum forks, because these coins are very well mined on old video cards, such as the Radeon Rx 480.
The Nvidia company has a new coin that will be well mined only on new video cards, and mining on old GPUs is unprofitable.

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Quote from: adaseb on October 14, 2022, 10:42:30 PM

Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.

So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.

I believe this to be temporary though as I am sure Nvidia underground is sponsoring the next best thing to replace Ethereum after it moved to POS.It generated a huge income for Nvidia especially during 2020-2022 which they made huge sales selling the cards well over MSRP and sometimes even 3x over the MSRP or more.

I only hope they will sponsor ETHW as I will mine it,but other than that I am sure they will definitely sponsor a new coin,it is a huge chunk of money that they are losing out just because Eth moved to POS a month ago.

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It was doomed from the start. It couldn't be too strict because it would risk false positives so it was easilly defeatable
by running a dummy process. Even without unlockers miners still bought them in large numbers and at inflated prices.
Most mining software now has built in unlocking so LHR is complely neutralised. It was a complete waste of time and money.

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Yes I am not surprised by this at all. The only reason Nvidia created LHR GPUs was because the Nvidia fanboys were crying all over the gaming forums how they cannot buy any GPUs because miners bought all the supply.

So they created this little software hack in a way to make those fan boys happy. However I am pretty sure miners bought these GPUs anyways and it didn’t do much. The nail on the coffin was when ETH went POS last month.

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Quote from: arielbit on October 14, 2022, 12:56:13 PM

Quote from: batsonxl on October 14, 2022, 11:20:53 AM

Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner Grin

Miners become lawballers haha, miners are on top of the food chain, gamers are always slaugthered first LOL

Lol food chain.so miners are shrimps Grin

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Quote from: batsonxl on October 14, 2022, 11:20:53 AM

Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner Grin

Miners become lawballers haha, miners are on top of the food chain, gamers are always slaugthered first LOL

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Hehe it is so funny like nvidia is kinder garden. If i could talk to nvidias people to face ehhh ehh. What happened? Where is gamers that wanted cards? These gpu manufaturerers will never find good customer like a miner Grin

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Quote from: swogerino on October 14, 2022, 07:44:08 AM

Quote from: FP91G on October 14, 2022, 06:19:16 AM

Redditor Timbers007 confirms that GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (which launched with LHR) is no longer affected by the limit. This is on the Windows operating system with Ethminer, cryptomining software that never had any unlocking ability. Provided screenshots shows ~112 MH/s mining speed, matching what unlocked miners such as NiceHash/NBMiner were already offering.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-removes-lite-hash-rate-limiter-with-the-latest-driver

NVIDIA's Linux driver 520.56.06 & Windows driver 522.25 do not seem to trigger LHR when mining with traditionally locked algorithms like Etchash & Autolykos.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/y2l39i/nvidia_removes_lhr_limiter_from_newest_drivers/

hahah

It is indeed a funny time to do that,probably they are trying to convince those "few" miners that did not have good technical know how to show that with the new drivers they can make "more money" by mining with those cards.The timing is right now that no one gives a real sh*t on mining on a large scale and their GPU-s being one the best 3080 ti will sell for very very low money,Nvidia partners are not happy and the prices of video cards will keep hitting new lows in the days,weeks and some months to come.

Cheap cards with 112 Mhsh power are a very good buy right now by the way because mining will restart being as good as it used to be before Eth merge.

hmm 20 million a day is off the mining table due to Mr V.B.'s bright move.

that is 7.3 billion a year both Nvidia and AMD want a coin to revive or be created as it simply 2x their business every good gpu mining year.

I had an off to buy Rtx A4000 cards over 200 if I want for 500 each.

These do 60mh and use about 115 watts. They list at 1000 retail on Provantage.

I offered him 300 a card he said no.

I will get back to him in a few weeks to see if he drops well under the 500 offer.

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Quote from: FP91G on October 14, 2022, 06:19:16 AM

Redditor Timbers007 confirms that GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (which launched with LHR) is no longer affected by the limit. This is on the Windows operating system with Ethminer, cryptomining software that never had any unlocking ability. Provided screenshots shows ~112 MH/s mining speed, matching what unlocked miners such as NiceHash/NBMiner were already offering.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-removes-lite-hash-rate-limiter-with-the-latest-driver

NVIDIA's Linux driver 520.56.06 & Windows driver 522.25 do not seem to trigger LHR when mining with traditionally locked algorithms like Etchash & Autolykos.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/y2l39i/nvidia_removes_lhr_limiter_from_newest_drivers/

hahah

It is indeed a funny time to do that,probably they are trying to convince those "few" miners that did not have good technical know how to show that with the new drivers they can make "more money" by mining with those cards.The timing is right now that no one gives a real sh*t on mining on a large scale and their GPU-s being one the best 3080 ti will sell for very very low money,Nvidia partners are not happy and the prices of video cards will keep hitting new lows in the days,weeks and some months to come.

Cheap cards with 112 Mhsh power are a very good buy right now by the way because mining will restart being as good as it used to be before Eth merge.

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Redditor Timbers007 confirms that GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (which launched with LHR) is no longer affected by the limit. This is on the Windows operating system with Ethminer, cryptomining software that never had any unlocking ability. Provided screenshots shows ~112 MH/s mining speed, matching what unlocked miners such as NiceHash/NBMiner were already offering.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-removes-lite-hash-rate-limiter-with-the-latest-driver

NVIDIA's Linux driver 520.56.06 & Windows driver 522.25 do not seem to trigger LHR when mining with traditionally locked algorithms like Etchash & Autolykos.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/y2l39i/nvidia_removes_lhr_limiter_from_newest_drivers/

hahah

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