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Zahlen

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 01, 2014, 10:32:33 AM

Btw, now BCNext can't prove that he is BCNext, anyone can sign a message using the genesis account. So we should expect that BCNext's real identity will never be known...

He must have wanted it to be cracked. Password is just too apt, too easy for this community.

Not a proof that he intended to stay anonymous though, maybe he hadn't expected NSA and friends to give him a phone call.

EDIT: Well, at least this will discourage him from designing more "fun" games for now Grin

One warm, bright day, when NSA becomes irrelevant...

EDIT 2: No, there still is a way for him to prove identity: through his bitcoin account 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a

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someone here from Moldavia?

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Quote from: Zahlen on February 01, 2014, 11:21:52 AM

Quote from: ImmortAlex on February 01, 2014, 10:43:28 AM

That's THE example why noone should use well-known quotes as password!

++1 doubleplusone

doubleplus good!

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Quote from: marcus03 on February 01, 2014, 11:23:30 AM

CfB or Jean-Luc, do you have comments about this being a new implementation of the core?

Several implementations of the core is a good idea. But community should think of something similar to Bitcoin Improvement Proposals.

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 01, 2014, 11:12:57 AM

Now, could some people crawl through the code please? Just to be secure...

I have not looked at the code, but have a lot of respect for the amount of work that must have went into this.

CfB or Jean-Luc, do you have comments about this being a new implementation of the core?

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Quote from: ImmortAlex on February 01, 2014, 10:43:28 AM

That's THE example why noone should use well-known quotes as password!

++1 doubleplusone

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Quote from: minusbalancer on February 01, 2014, 11:02:02 AM

Sources of the dotNXT Client are published:

https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-client
https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-core

I am using Visual Studio 2012 Pro to build the application.

Thank you great job!

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I singled out the part of your comment about Ethereum intentionally... very curious if DNAs will open such possibility in Nxt.

I am interested in how this might progress - as stated you might want to look into what Open Transactions has done with this area (they have done an awful lot).

I also think that the (much hated) voting system will probably be a key aspect (and for this case I think it would generally be pretty much clear that those with the greatest holdings would hold the power).

When the "decisions" of the "virtual corporation" are decided by a "vote" and the funds are *controlled* by the voting majority then you start to get something that is *different* and interesting.

Imagine if "pirateat40" could not actually do anything with his funds without the majority of holders agreeing (perhaps you wouldn't even see such a scam come into existence)?

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Now, could some people crawl through the code please? Just to be secure...

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Quote from: utopianfuture on February 01, 2014, 11:08:09 AM

There is no place for small start-up companies in established exchanges. In general it is very difficult for a small start-up to get 100K$ from anywhere except from from personal funds to start the business. Google AngelList and read about it.

This is why you start "private companies" and if the whole point of the Asset Exchange is to replicate "Kick Starter" then I think it will fail from day 1 (as I understand the US has already made laws about that approach which I am sure other western countries at least will soon follow).

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 01, 2014, 11:08:27 AM

Quote from: minusbalancer on February 01, 2014, 11:02:02 AM

Sources of the dotNXT Client are published:

https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-client
https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-core

I am using Visual Studio 2012 Pro to build the application.

Great work!

Great news, actually. Open-source clients - that's what we all need.

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Hope this help... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4580211#msg4580211 Undecided

It doesn't seem to go into any detail at all - understand I am not *against* the idea of some sort of "decentralised corporation" but I think that at the moment the way people are going about it is *ass about*.

The current mechanism seems to support the "pirateat40" model that says "Hey, here is a great investment - give me your money!" and then later disappears with the money along with a bunch of people then trying to use the "legal system" in whatever country to "catch them".

If you are going to use the "legal system" at all then you should use it from day 1 and if you are not then you need something better than someones "rep" on the internet.

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Quote from: minusbalancer on February 01, 2014, 11:02:02 AM

Sources of the dotNXT Client are published:

https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-client
https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-core

I am using Visual Studio 2012 Pro to build the application.

Great work!

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There is no place for small start-up companies in established exchanges. In general it is very difficult for a small start-up to get 100K$ from anywhere except from from personal funds to start the business. Google AngelList and read about it.

Anonymity is a niche thing as you can see how Bitcoin moves away from it as it grows mainstream.

UP

Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2014, 11:01:17 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 01, 2014, 10:55:18 AM

I am not talking about anonymous corporation which sound very futuristic and ultimately a very dubious concept, imho. I am talking about proper public companies with owners and shareholders. I talk about U.S law because you are more familiar with it but the principle should apply globally.

If we are talking about "proper public companies" then I don't see any reason why they wouldn't just stick to stock exchanges - there is nothing for them to gain but a bad reputation if they start listing on P2P Exchanges IMO.

BTW - I am not a US citizen so its laws are actually not well known to me at all.

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 01, 2014, 10:55:18 AM

Now talk about US in specifics, fundraising law is changing as we speak now. I have a big plan regarding this area and a model that could eventually surpass AngelList. In some countries, the process would even much easier. In some countries are harder. But in general the process to revolutionize the concept of fundrasing and stock exchage is pretty much parallel to process that Bitcoin revolutionize the concept of currency and payment.

I don't agree - the advantage that a P2P Exchange has is simply allowing anonymity. Any decent public company doesn't need that and so doesn't need P2P and the "bad rep" that comes with it.

A "revolution" would be a company whose rules work entirely upon "math" and therefore "don't need" laws or lawyers. We may see that down the track but I don't think that Nxt Asset Exchange has been created with this in mind (nor what is being developed in at least most other similar projects).

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Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on February 01, 2014, 10:59:29 AM

Am I seeing this correctly? A lot of transactions of zero value are coming out.

Is that going to blow out the memory of Nxt nodes?

Yes, all nodes will blow after number of transactions reaches 666.

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Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on February 01, 2014, 10:59:29 AM

Quote from: ImmortAlex on February 01, 2014, 10:54:41 AM

Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on February 01, 2014, 10:51:47 AM

Quote from: ImmortAlex on February 01, 2014, 10:45:02 AM

Btw, why NRS shows genesis account's balance as -5 ?

Is that for real? The genesis address/account got cracked?

What are the implications? Anyone can create and assign Nxt to himself?

No. You can't send coins from account with non-positive balance.

Am I seeing this correctly? A lot of transactions of zero value are coming out.

Is that going to blow out the memory of Nxt nodes?

For a guy who's suppose to bring something revolutionary, you seem very clueless. It doesn't really inspire confidence for "investors".

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Quote from: EmoneyRu on February 01, 2014, 11:01:34 AM

Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on February 01, 2014, 10:59:29 AM

Is that going to blow out the memory of Nxt nodes?

Omg, read how alias registration works

He do not need to know how Nxt works. This knowledge will only prevent him to troll.

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Quote from: minusbalancer on February 01, 2014, 11:02:02 AM

Sources of the dotNXT Client are published:

https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-client
https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-core

I am using Visual Studio 2012 Pro to build the application.

Thanks

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2014, 10:45:11 AM

It can only have meaning through a digital contract that is enforced by math and I don't think that the Asset Exchange feature is actually going to do this (Ethereum may get closer although I think Open Transactions probably the closest so far to achieving this).

What about DNAs? Huh

Edit: DNA == Decentralized Next Agent

You need to be perhaps a bit more "precise" in what this DNA actually is - is it some math rules that dictates how the company operates?

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Sources of the dotNXT Client are published:

https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-client
https://bitbucket.org/minusbalancer/dotnxt-core

I am using Visual Studio 2012 Pro to build the application.

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