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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 29, 2014, 08:55:27 AM

Quote from: Labteck on January 29, 2014, 08:47:00 AM

too much blablabla and talking about the color of the coin,thats all

U should add that we talk about color of the coins for 3 months already.

hey CfB - sorry, this is going quite quickly.

Do you have 'getAccountAssets' call on your list? Sort of an inventory that lists which assets and how much of it an account has? Was mentioned before, just asking to make sure because it seems essential to me!

Also, there is the questions of conditional BUY/SELL offers: Can you make a BUY or SELL limit order, that has th efollowing properties:

1: the issuer can NOT revoke it
2: it expires at a certain point in time if it is not matched
3: it is coded to a SPECIFIC account OR to a SPECIFIC key, and only the owner of the account / holder of the key can execute it

I think it could be possible with the present NRS infrastructre, and this would provide an extremely powerful method to issue options on virtual assets.

ALSO: in certain combinations, this might allow schemes to implement SMART ESCROW - not sure yet, but there might be a way to do this.

Think of the utility value of these two things that can be done with options contracts!

I am just posing these here in case it goes too fast, but I'll also put it over to the API dev thread..

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 29, 2014, 08:55:27 AM

Quote from: Labteck on January 29, 2014, 08:47:00 AM

too much blablabla and talking about the color of the coin,thats all

U should add that we talk about color of the coins for 3 months already.

nice,keep talking

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Quote from: coolfish on January 29, 2014, 08:57:20 AM

NXT is not the first 2nd generation?

No. We decided to call Nxt "the 3rd generation".

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Quote from: nakaone on January 29, 2014, 07:19:18 AM

Quote from: starik69 on January 29, 2014, 07:12:10 AM

Hm... eMunie announced OB1 on 1 February

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Following is a list of components not enabled for OB1:

Distributed P2P exchange (OB2 scheduled)
Distributed market place (OB2 scheduled)
Final economic model
API calls for the above
Remote admin panel for clients

much wow - so they finally designed the economic model? - as an economist I am really anxious to see it. fixing exchange rates is serious hard business if not impossible. the rest lets see in ob2 Cheesy

on 1 February?

Client released earlier than NXT?

NXT is not the first 2nd generation?

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Quote from: Labteck on January 29, 2014, 08:47:00 AM

too much blablabla and talking about the color of the coin,thats all

U should add that we talk about color of the coins for 3 months already.

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Frictionlesscoin vs EvilDave:
EvilDave strikes Back

Guys, just posted the next chapter in the Frictionlesscoin story.....

Check out:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-offer-nxt-to-nex-exchange-one-nxt-to-50-nex-coins-limited-424724

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nex-nxt-reimagined-industrial-strength-imagine-fairness-422052

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nxt-to-nex-buy-in-exchange-1-nxt-for-50-nex-moderated-429399

It's a long read, but it is important, especially for the guys FC threatened with legal action.
Need coffee and cigarette, back soon.

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 28, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

1) an API to get a qty of assets. requred parameer of acctnumbr. with no other parameters it lists all qtys of all assets. optional parameter of an assetID to just get qty of that asset. another optional parameter of a timestamp to get a snapshot before or after that particular time. these 2 options may be used together

Done without a timestamp.

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 28, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

2) I still dont fully understand if/how/when automated transfers work, since in my testing so far, with no QTY API, I cannot tell if automated trades due to bid/sell matching occurs. so Im sure if this process can be described, we'd want some other APIs Wink

I'll add getTradeHistory.

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 28, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

3) Allow "getAskOrderIds" and "getBidOrderIds" to specify a certain assetID

Done. As a side-effect they r sorted according to the order they would be matched (to show market depth).

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 28, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

4) An API to show all transfers of an asset from 1 account, specifying the asset and the transfer-or, and optionally the transfer-ee, and optionally a timestamp to show transfers before or after that point.

This should be done via getTransactionIds (with type/subtype filter) + getTransaction combo. Or getTradeHistory.

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 28, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

5) An API to show all transfers of assets into 1 account, optionally allowing to filter to a specific asset,and optionally a timestamp to show transfers before or after that point.

This should be done via getTransactionIds (with type/subtype filter) + getTransaction combo. Or getTradeHistory.

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Quote from: Thingamajig on January 29, 2014, 08:37:38 AM

If NXT managed to get FIAT trading, it would open up the market massively.

It's not clear that NXT will be the first who works like an exchange.If this will happen some day..
We only see a "test" that's all.

too much blablabla and talking about the color of the coin,thats all

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Quote from: Thingamajig on January 29, 2014, 08:37:38 AM

Personally i think NXT is a coin

Well, let me stop you right there Cheesy

Kiddin'

Quote from: McDoxy on January 29, 2014, 07:04:02 AM

Seriously if you don't believe in Nxt please dump all your coins. Do it PLEASE! I would rather see the price fall right now instead of having someone like you as a "whale" anytime longer. (if that is even true and you're not just trying to troll this thread)
Nobody owes you shit and nobody is scared of your threats.

Full ACK.

If you somehow think you can't handle your large stake in NXT, then please contact me. I'm always looking to buy cheap.

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Quote from: gs02xzz on January 29, 2014, 08:41:52 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 28, 2014, 02:23:13 PM

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Too many coins... I fear a very bad ending... hopefully not for cryptocurrencies in general. Undecided

Don't worry. When I launch Qubic all cryptocoins will die, only cryptoplatforms will survive.

What will happen to Nxtcoins after you launch the Qubic?

First LAK -> looking forward to it.

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Quote from: gs02xzz on January 29, 2014, 08:41:52 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 28, 2014, 02:23:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Too many coins... I fear a very bad ending... hopefully not for cryptocurrencies in general. Undecided

Don't worry. When I launch Qubic all cryptocoins will die, only cryptoplatforms will survive.

What will happen to Nxtcoins after you launch the Qubic?

Nothing. Market is too far from saturation.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 28, 2014, 02:23:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Too many coins... I fear a very bad ending... hopefully not for cryptocurrencies in general. Undecided

Don't worry. When I launch Qubic all cryptocoins will die, only cryptoplatforms will survive.

What will happen to Nxtcoins after you launch the Qubic?

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Personally i think NXT is a coin that can succeed, but i feel as though in order to do so any dependancy on BTC needs to be addressed.

Although i think direct trades on exchanges for BTC>NXT should continue, efforts should be made to allow people to use their native currencies to buy into NXT directly. I think this is one of the major steps needed to really make this coin a proper competitor - after all, it's what Bitcoin does.

Bitcoin is compared in value to FIAT.

NXT is compared largely to BTC, because thats often what it's traded with.

As long as this continues, i think NXT will find it harder to be pushed. So to speak.

If NXT managed to get FIAT trading, it would open up the market massively.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 29, 2014, 07:16:11 AM

Quote from: pandaisftw on January 29, 2014, 06:54:25 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on January 29, 2014, 06:20:56 AM

Not to mention that now we have a whole bunch of clients and need to somehow switch to the new format.

Well, at least for this part, jean-luc said he would support whatever format the community came up with, right? So whenever you and ricot finish your RS implementation (how is that going btw?) I'm sure we can seamlessly integrate it into NRS and all other clients.

It still doesn't make sense coz we move from signing transactions on NRS to signing on client side.

Ah, right, I forgot NRS is being removed. Yes, implementing this client-side.

Quote from: NxtChg on January 29, 2014, 07:35:46 AM

Quote from: pandaisftw on January 29, 2014, 06:54:25 AM

So whenever you and ricot finish your RS implementation (how is that going btw?) I'm sure we can seamlessly integrate it into NRS and all other clients.

The code is done, I am waiting for people to review it.

Then we must have another, legitimate vote on the alphabet to use and we don't have any legitimate voting system yet. Even BTT removed the newbie restrictions...

And I am not sure about "seamlessly". This will be a big change, which needs to be synchronized across all clients and sites.

Clients can simply accept both old and new addresses. But the client will tell new users to use the new address scheme because it is safer. Eventually, most people will move to the new standard, if it proves superior, but we will still have legacy support for those few stubborn ones who like their old addresses (perhaps vanity). Of course, if you run an exchange, you can demand your customers to use RS format addresses only, so you don't have to deal with legacy addresses.

EDIT: How will this affect API calls?

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another CfB term "dynamical equilibrium" Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4815754

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Quote from: Damelon on January 29, 2014, 07:18:57 AM

Quote from: Emule on January 29, 2014, 06:46:45 AM

Quote from: Passion_ltc on January 29, 2014, 06:17:39 AM

Quote from: Emule on January 29, 2014, 04:56:09 AM

You can kick this pig, is going nowhere. One of your big stakeholders in all respect of NXT dumped 1M coins on Bter just to let you all see I can.
I hope you all not surprised this pig is not moving.
The big stakeholders are offloading for more than a weeks now and they will continue to do so for months so don’t expect price to rise in the coming months, but expect the worse, and don’t give me the“good coins getting wide spread” now sh**, cos coins going nowhere, 60 people own 80% of NXT.!!!
You were still not able to release the “official” client (vaporware) so people will have to use other clients instead.
Nexern is personally responsible for the price dip (3x he did not deliver) that will follow after my message.
Just like CCinvestor I am a whale waiting to dump but as you do not succeed to produce anything I start dump right now. (and don’t give me the “good coins getting wide spread” again)
Marketing is a disaster and a joke, you gave 1M to 1 guy that decides to give it out on stupid translations and stupid video.
Nowhere have I seen any marketing effort of value! There is no master plan, no guidance and leadership like dogecoin did, lack of that will kill this puppy soon
Meanwhile you all discussing stupid things like voting system and color of the coin, NXT get your act together and start do something cos ethereum and emunie will kill you instantly they hit the market. What you all got right now is hot air.
It is arrogant to think you have something to offer that others don’t have, if you don’t start get NXT ibn to the open before ethereum and emunie might as well sell all your freaking coins right now cos rhey are worth sh***

and where is that f*** client!

Then get yourself together and make giveaways, promotions and fund some big projects. I'm not a big stakeholder, I have a few several thousand NXT, but I'm trying my personal best with my projects. If I would have 1 million NXT or more I would work full time on Nxt for 6 months or more, to make it worth nearly $1each.

Why should i, did lophie or any other 80 big holders do this?

Man, are you still in Kindergarten?

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The Vault of Satoshi Exchange has plans to trade NXT. www.vaultofsatoshi.com

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Among those soon to be supported by the exchange are Marketcoin, and Nxt. However, these are taking considerably more work due to their fundamentally different architectures, he said.

Source: http://www.coindesk.com/vault-of-satoshi-new-altcoin-support/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29

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Quote from: jettico on January 29, 2014, 06:12:58 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 29, 2014, 05:22:54 AM

Quote from: jettico on January 29, 2014, 04:18:48 AM

Please try to concentrate and read all three paragraphs right one after another. It is not SO difficult Wink

I can't pass the 2nd paragraph coz writing the code at the same time. I let someone else to continue the discussion instead of me.

I'd rather doubt someone else here is interested in statistics and the future of nxt coin at the same time. Is there? Wink

It is really important.

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Steps 3-5 in http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Transparent_Forging from the statistics point of view are equivalent to comparing random numbers uniformly distributed between 0 and 1/N where N is number of coins in the wallet (normalization coefficient is the same for all wallets and is omitted for clarity).

Now imagine that you throw a dice with numbers from 1 to 6 and your opponent throws a semi-dice with three possible values from 1 to 3. Who gets the lower number wins the round. In half of the cases you will throw 4-6 and win. In the other half you will have 50:50 chances to win. Thus your chances are 1/2 + 1/4 = 0.75 and his chances are 1/4 = 0.25. Which is 3 times lower.

For arbitrary ratio K between two wallets the probability ratio is 2K-1. For example, a wallet with 100k coins is 199 times more likely to forge a block than 1k wallet.

I can send you those three paragraphs in a pm so that when you get a spare minute you could think about it and answer.

Or maybe there's another active thread where I can raise the issue? Who invented TF anyway? Was it you or BCNext Wink

You might be interested in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.1180

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Quote from: nxtru on January 29, 2014, 06:50:31 AM

If we're afraid of memory corruption then we need to add error check for the amount of money sent and for the fee, don't we?

Sure. Unfortunately it's not possible. But that's not a valid reason to skip address verification.

As I said before, the fact that you can die from a heart attack on an airplane, doesn't mean we now don't have to worry about engine safety.

Plus, if the amount is corrupted then the address will probably be corrupted too and if there is a check for it, such transaction will be rejected.

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Quote from: pandaisftw on January 29, 2014, 06:54:25 AM

So whenever you and ricot finish your RS implementation (how is that going btw?) I'm sure we can seamlessly integrate it into NRS and all other clients.

The code is done, I am waiting for people to review it.

Then we must have another, legitimate vote on the alphabet to use and we don't have any legitimate voting system yet. Even BTT removed the newbie restrictions...

And I am not sure about "seamlessly". This will be a big change, which needs to be synchronized across all clients and sites.

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