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legendary
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I would love some type of NXT podcast   Grin

Get both male and female NXT podcasters along with maybe a live stream and chat feature Smiley

Who is NXT's most prominent female NXTer Huh

i hate to sound sexist but it would be difficult to find a female who was capable of sounding authoritative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_Defensor_Santiago

oh wow. she looks and sounds like hitler the way she points and moves her arms and body, and the way the tone of her voice rises and falls. scary
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On the plane home from Miami. Thank you to everyone for the kind words, it was a great experience and I look forward to helping with the next steps.


dude, thanks a TON for ally youve done.  Hope you had a blast!
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The more NXT someone has, the more right he has to decide. It's natural. Someone with 50% ownership on a company has a 50% right to decide something..

It's so easy. So why do you fighting over this so much?
I agree too, but this is only under the assumption that large stakeholders will always do things in the best interest of the currency's growth and health. However, I am sure at some point there could be large NXT stakeholders that would vote for something just not acceptable by a majority of the community and it would be interesting to see how that would play out in the actual decision making process.
Well, they are the majority. So let it be.

They're not the majority. That's the point here.
They are. If you have 50$ and the other guy 1$ then you have the majority of wealth. So you are should be allowed to say more.

Fortunately, our democratic systems do not work this way (not yet, I fear).

You should be allowed to say more if you spend more of you wealth:
Say, if you spend 1/10 of your wealth it's more than if somebody spend 1/10000 of theirs. It appears it's not so important to them.

NXT is an economic ecosystem, not a state. In PoS 1 NXT is equivalent to 1 person (like SSN, birth certificate, or whatever) because this is the only way to truly account for the validity of each NXT, so 1 NXT = 1 Vote. All other methods will be gamed by the rich to make the poor poorer. For example, using 1 account = 1 Vote, a large stakeholder can create 10k accounts easily, while a small stakeholder will go broke doing it. No matter what you do, the rich can always afford more accounts than the poor can. Thus voting on an account basis is unrealistic.

I think a good analogy would be (within the NXT ecosystem), 1 NXT = 1 Person, Account Owner = Representative. So if you own 10k NXT, you are their representative and represent their "views", but you cannot speak for all the NXTs under other representatives.

I can understand your point of view. But do not make the Nxt ecosystem for Nxt. We do it for the people. And when people don't like it because it does not seem fair they won't support it.

There are more different methods as only these two (1 Vote = 1 Nxt and 1 vote = 1 account) and variants of them.

The problem with these two is, there is nothing at stake. You can vote whatever and whenever you want.

If you have to pay for each vote and the amount of what you pay directly influences the voting power, you really think of voting when and what and how much is it worth to me.

So, something is at stake now. I cannot simply pay 10.000.000 to simply outvote everyone else. Because, in the next voting session would won't have any coins left.

Can you produce any valid argument against fee-based voting? I would really like to hear them as I want Nxt to thrive because people love it.

Technically, everyone who votes, as a stakeholder, has something at stake. Large stakeholders won't vote for things that would destroy the value of their NXT, correct? They will not also vote to harm small stakeholders, because that would hurt or prevent new users from coming into the system, thus hurting their own stake.

Perhaps, like others have mentioned before, we should have different voting methods for different things.

1) For bigger things like deciding decimal points, which feature should be prioritized, etc. then we can use 1 NXT = 1 Vote. On these issues, everyone should care, but the larger stakeholders technically have more at risk, so they should have more say in what direction NXT should follow. This will also encourage everyone in the NXT ecosystem to vote because there is no fee, plus they wouldn't want to hand all the power to large stakeholders. Additionally, with the wealth dispersion that is on-going, not all the large holders will vote for the same thing all the time, so I think it'll work out.

2) For more trivial things like banners, logos, etc. we can use 1 Cost = 1 Vote. The idea is that since these things are not as important, people only will pay as much as they care, which makes sense. Plus, if someone really wants a particular banner and pays 10000's of NXT... let them and redistribute NXT to everyone else.

My only concern with 2) is that it may be abused, or that many stakeholders will end up not voting because they will think, "oh, I'll let other stakeholders fight it out with their NXT, not mine." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect) So I still feel 1) is the best course of action because everyone is voting with their stake, at stake.

and the one thing everyone keeps ignoring the "james bond villian" scenario where large stakeholders DONT behave the way you expect.
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Totally agree. Fees adjusted to voting power are absolutely necessary.
IMO the best way with voting is to make the fee for the vote proportional to the stake.
What fee?  Huh
If transaction fee then stakeholders would return them by forging own transactions in own blocks. Roll Eyes
If fee to some voting address with somewhat redistribution after voting then it is gamed again by creating many accounts. Tongue

The more I think about it the more I think it may be a good idea for you to to be forced to forfeit fees you pay in blocks you generate, specifically for reasons like this.  Not sure where they would go, maybe just send to a random account that had a recent outgoing transaction.  That would be sort of cool, actually.

the whole gaming thing though, it why like I said before Im sort of predisposed against global voting as a method of implementing NXT operations though.  so far no one has come up with anything bulletproof, so maybe it is just impractical...  the only thing I can think to even come close to penalizing for gaming by using multiple accounts would be to make voting cheaper the more NXT you have.  but then that is very unfair for the people with not much NXT!  so maybe no solution at all?
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I would love some type of NXT podcast   Grin

Get both male and female NXT podcasters along with maybe a live stream and chat feature Smiley

Who is NXT's most prominent female NXTer Huh

i hate to sound sexist but it would be difficult to find a female who was capable of sounding authoritative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_Defensor_Santiago
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i hate to sound sexist but it would be difficult to find a female who was capable of sounding authoritative.

I wish I had that problem.  At least my second wife is nice to me. Cheesy
Ola
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Good evening everyone, Good job to the guys in miami moving things forward inch by inch and everyone else contributing to the community...been in the cave working on something racing against nexern psychologically



I think having Joe as the voice of the NXT minute would be a good idea if he's doing the community show about it.   You want to be the voice of NXT joe?


I have an idea, anyone opposed to the idea of hiring Stephanie Murphy from LTB as a voice and special liason to crypto community in general? she is quite embedded in the crypto world and she has an authoritative and sexy voice which people listen too..I don't know how she pulls it off. If anything, we can dedicate some funds to her involvement if she chooses to. I think she will easily see the value which Nxt brings to the table and will be able to present Nxt in an objective way, from my impression of her at least. An objective presentation of Nxt is a very compelling message, Nxt naturally is superior to anything out there even bitcoin. Bitcoin is a dinosaur compared to NXT, its just that no one knows this yet...this is not bias, its just a fact.

Edit: together with Joe of course
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not sure what these are all about:

Code:
[2014-01-26 18:21:46.114] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Block.getLastBlocks(Nxt.java:1353)
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:579)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:47.119] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Block.getLastBlocks(Nxt.java:1353)
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:579)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:48.121] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Block.getLastBlocks(Nxt.java:1353)
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:579)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:49.125] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:596)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:50.128] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:596)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:51.144] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:596)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:52.147] DEBUG: Error in block generation thread
java.lang.NullPointerException
at Nxt$Account.getGuaranteedBalance(Nxt.java:596)
at Nxt$Account.getEffectiveBalance(Nxt.java:516)
at Nxt$8.run(Nxt.java:6574)
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.runAndReset(FutureTask.java:304)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:178)
at java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:293)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744)
[2014-01-26 18:21:52.583] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-01-26 18:21:57.305] Generated an incorrect block. Waiting for the next one...
[2014-01-26 18:21:59.210] ...Done
legendary
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I would love some type of NXT podcast   Grin

Get both male and female NXT podcasters along with maybe a live stream and chat feature Smiley

Who is NXT's most prominent female NXTer Huh

i hate to sound sexist but it would be difficult to find a female who was capable of sounding authoritative.

You are not sexist. You need a: nice, attractive and firm female voice to persuade people, especially other male investors.

This is evolution and the tricks of the sub-conscious. This happens in marketing and business everyday.
legendary
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Bah, these are the times I hate it to have too much of a Dutch accent for English  Speaking radio  Tongue
legendary
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I would love some type of NXT podcast   Grin

Get both male and female NXT podcasters along with maybe a live stream and chat feature Smiley

Who is NXT's most prominent female NXTer Huh

i hate to sound sexist but it would be difficult to find a female who was capable of sounding authoritative.
newbie
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I would love some type of NXT podcast   Grin

Get both male and female NXT podcasters along with maybe a live stream and public chat feature Smiley

Who is NXT's most prominent female NXTer Huh
legendary
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Maybe someone in the community has the talents to put something together so license isn't an issue.

For now, I have some good royalty-free and Creative Commons music we can use.  But I'm sure there are musicians in the mix and we'll get some original content soon enough!

i think general fuzz is creative commons and general fuzz is awesome

*edit* listen to "the arrival" on this page http://www.generalfuzz.net/tunes.php
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Maybe someone in the community has the talents to put something together so license isn't an issue.

For now, I have some good royalty-free and Creative Commons music we can use.  But I'm sure there are musicians in the mix and we'll get some original content soon enough!
legendary
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For the minute spots maybe we're overthinking this, maybe it should really just be the NXT Minute on LTB, and twice a week listeners of LTB get updated to the most important thing "This is the NXT Minute, this week saw the release of the new client that does blah blah blah" you have enough room for about 65-72 words in a minute of human speech, you'll want to pick out some music (I can help with that) and leave a little space on either side to allow for the fade in and out.


I love this idea.


Would someone be willing to take up that task?   I think the NXT minute with occasional experiential spots shared by members of the NXT community would go over really well.  Then you could have something that would always be different, always be useful and informative, and whenever a really good community submission comes up you just run that instead of the update.  You get the best of both worlds, informational, timely and cheap while community spots provide the emotional and real world context.   It would probably be good to have people write these and then have them voiced by members of the community who are a) good at that, and b) have good mics, it makes a big difference.


I have very good recording equipment. My voice isn't a classic radio voice, but I can send a sample recording of me reading something to everyone who's involved in organizing this or whoever is interested to see what you think. I'll do this tonight. Who should I send it to?: mindtomatter, joefox, salsacz... anyone else?

it really isnt a bad idea. there are 2 big advantages here. one is that it wont sound overly commercial, very important indeed since you dont want your decentralized movement to sound like its run by a corporation. also each episode would be different, thats also hugely beneficial, people arnt going to want to listen to the same commercial twice.

still the first episode atleast should be dedicated to explaining what advantages nxt offers over bitcoin and other copycoins.
newbie
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For the Radio-Spots, try to get some girls to talk about NxT. It always feels more natural if both genders are present.
newbie
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you'll want to pick out some music (I can help with that) and leave a little space on either side to allow for the fade in and out.


What kind of license do we need on the music?
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I think having Joe as the voice of the NXT minute would be a good idea if he's doing the community show about it.   You want to be the voice of NXT joe?

Of course I'm willing, and it's a responsibility I'm happy to share.  Especially if people have good recording gear (ahem, bithic).

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I think having Joe as the voice of the NXT minute would be a good idea if he's doing the community show about it.   You want to be the voice of NXT joe?
newbie
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Does anyone know how I can call an account balance in PHP?

I need something like...

Code:

$TokenResponse = json_decode(file_get_contents("http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=decodeToken&website=" . $rand . "&token=" . $token"));

$balance = json_decode(file_get_contents("http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=". $TokenResponse[account]"));


pass account ID not token.
Code:
http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=6669070404060812420

remember results are "multiplied by 100"

also, you'll probably be interested more in guaranted balance:
Code:
http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getGuaranteedBalance&account=6669070404060812420&numberOfConfirmations=10


Right I understand the API, I was just giving an example -- what I meant was connections are refused when I send json requests, and curl is returning "NULL".

Echo the url and enter it into the browser.   Is the connection still refused?  Can you use a public node?  This seems to work for reading the balance:
http://node10.nxtbase.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getGuaranteedBalance&account=6669070404060812420&numberOfConfirmations=10

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