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Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 01:05:17 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 01:01:46 PM

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

I support it also although I actually would like to see people have to *pay* to vote (as I don't this has really been tried before and could be an interesting experiment).

no need to pay.....many Nxters have only a few Nxt and we want every stakeholder to vote.

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Quote from: Bitventurer on January 20, 2014, 12:54:10 PM

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type "Ctrl+C" in your terminal to stop your client.
Go to your Nxt folder, delete transactions.nxt & blocks.nxt
Rename the 2 .nxt.bak files to .nxt
Start your client, wait for 1-2 mins
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Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 01:05:17 PM

I actually would like to see people have to *pay* to vote (as I don't this has really been tried before and could be an interesting experiment).

But is it not obvious why "pay-4-vote" has not been implemented anywhere? Don't you think that buying your way in a vote is the complete opposite of a vote?

Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 01:05:17 PM

Think about it - you can "rig" an outcome by burning up your NXT but how many times can you afford to do that?

The way i see it does not matter "how many times" one can do it. If even once one is able to buy the outcome of a vote, it is enough to show that the outcome is rigged. I might not be able to do it, but if anyone can manipulate a vote, because he has managed to allocate the funds to do so, why should we make this process easier for him?

Is it not obvious that it is too easy to rig any outcome when buy-in is a prerequisite to participate in a voting process?

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 01:01:46 PM

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

I support it also although I actually would like to see people have to *pay* to vote (as I don't this has really been tried before and could be an interesting experiment).

Think about it - you can "rig" an outcome by burning up your NXT but how many times can you afford to do that?

Perhaps also rather than just having the NXT being used for such a poll being fed back as fees (which an AM approach would do) why not have the accounts be used for something (but not for what they represent so they can't send themselves money to use).

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 01:01:46 PM

Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

And it can even be made simpler if we also post links to forum posts or wiki articles with nice formatting and more info.

So just a short text field and URL are needed.

If nobody is up to it, I can probably do it, I already have NRS/database on the server.

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 01:01:46 PM

Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

Seems to be a good idea, indeed.
+1

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 01:01:46 PM

Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

it could easily be linked to all the various Nxt forums.

Edit: To protect against non- Nxters voting you would put NXT Public key as identifier....only 1 IP address & 1 public key per vote.

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Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

i strongly support this. best idea yet.

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 12:29:58 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on January 20, 2014, 12:28:44 PM

I would be very happy if you can devise a better way that actually works.

As suggested by Anon why not just set of 4 Nxt accounts and let people vote with their NXT (it is a PoS system after all)?

+1

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 20, 2014, 12:57:24 PM

Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 12:29:58 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on January 20, 2014, 12:28:44 PM

I would be very happy if you can devise a better way that actually works.

As suggested by Anon why not just set of 4 Nxt accounts and let people vote with their NXT (it is a PoS system after all)?

The dangerous incentives would have to be stepped around very very carefully. Imagine a situation where someone spent 10,000 nxt to vote for having 20,000 nxt spent on his "marketing" campaign and then just disappeared.

With that said it may still be the best way.

If we use AM, then we can at least make sure each voting account is different with a public key.

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Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

Great idea. Let's try that as long as we have a way to gather the consensus.

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 12:53:41 PM

Quote from: msin on January 20, 2014, 12:51:42 PM

Here is my suggestion: Open a Nxt account for voting. If someone wants to vote, they can send the account a public AM (Message). Use a topic # that people can use in their voting message. For example, message says "I vote for option #2 on topic # 112" That way, it cost 1 Nxt to vote but the account doesn't actually receive any Nxt.

I like this idea also - at least we are now starting to think about a Nxt way of voting!

Or even better, open a new Nxt account for each voting topic, then you just vote with AM, and don't have to cite the topic.

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when do we get voting system NXT self?

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Quote from: landomata on January 20, 2014, 12:52:22 PM

Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

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Somebody in love with jQuery and free templates can probably do it in half an hour.

Messages is good too, but it's too "techy". Here you will have a nice list of posts with stats and lists of voters.

I'd do it, but I am already tied up in exchange and the new address format...

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Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 12:29:58 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on January 20, 2014, 12:28:44 PM

I would be very happy if you can devise a better way that actually works.

As suggested by Anon why not just set of 4 Nxt accounts and let people vote with their NXT (it is a PoS system after all)?

The dangerous incentives would have to be stepped around very very carefully. Imagine a situation where someone spent 10,000 nxt to vote for having 20,000 nxt spent on his "marketing" campaign and then just disappeared.

With that said it may still be the best way.

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Quote from: msin on January 20, 2014, 12:51:42 PM

Here is my suggestion: Open a Nxt account for voting. If someone wants to vote, they can send the account a public AM (Message). Use a topic # that people can use in their voting message. For example, message says "I vote for option #2 on topic # 112" That way, it cost 1 Nxt to vote but the account doesn't actually receive any Nxt.

I like this idea also - at least we are now starting to think about a Nxt way of voting!

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Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

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Edit: you could allow an IP address to only vote once...also you couldn;t vote if you used TOR or similar service...IP address would have to be visible.

...to control for only humans you would need to answer a small question before your vote got submitted.

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Quote from: utopianfuture on January 20, 2014, 12:32:58 PM

Quote from: CIYAM on January 20, 2014, 12:29:58 PM

Quote from: utopianfuture on January 20, 2014, 12:28:44 PM

I would be very happy if you can devise a better way that actually works.

As suggested by Anon why not just set of 4 Nxt accounts and let people vote with their NXT (it is a PoS system after all)?

Great idea. Let anon do it and see the results. Maybe it would be the same.

Here is my suggestion: Open a Nxt account for voting. If someone wants to vote, they can send the account a public AM (Message). Use a topic # that people can use in their voting message. For example, message says "I vote for option #2 on topic # 112" That way, it cost 1 Nxt to vote but the account doesn't actually receive any Nxt.

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Quote from: NxtChg on January 20, 2014, 12:50:23 PM

What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

It certainly sounds a lot better than a forum poll to me.

NxtChg

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What if we just make a simple site, where you can post an issue to vote.

Then people can vote by using the authorization token.

They addresses are checked for age and maybe some balance threshold and added for everyone to see, so it can be transparent.

It won't be perfect, but will be hell of a lot better than forum polls.

Anyone up to it?

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