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legendary
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Hello, can i received NXT to my dgex account when the sender is outside of dgex?
Or can i received NXT on dgex only within dgex?
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1001
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

I'm tempted to say, let him burn.

BUT: if he makes a complete bollocks of NEX (which looks likely) there are gonna be a lot of disappointed people. And, right or wrong, some of that disappointment will reflect badly on NXT.

We certainly need to continue to spam his thread hard, to make it obvious to even the most brain-dead that they will probably end up with nothing. That is also a good marketing strategy, hassle the fake while promoting the genuine NXT. I don't like negative markting, but in FCs case I'll make an exception.

Or we could just hire a Byelorussian hitman from the unclaimed coins.....


@Utopianfuture: voted half an hour ago.....
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
We could help to relieve him off duty when we have multi-sign acc in place.  

I quit the project in April. We won't have multisig till that time, I think.
full member
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NXT is the future
is NXT trading on BTC38 also now?



http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/altgeneral/663.html



Hmm,looks like it is? :-)

Google translation:

Quote
Today, the line for a famous cottage currency trading platform of the new currency NextCoin, and put its name in Chinese is called "future currency." Unexpectedly, in addition to the NXT currency called the future, there is the English name FutureCoin future currency, and has a domestic line on the new platform. Said to the children to see a bit after the "future money", a big wave white flock this platform, called FUC buying from this future currency, the price quickly pulled from 0.05 0.48 soared nearly tenfold .

No now I understand.

A coin called Futurecoin was mistakenly took for Nextcoin because in Chinese translated it is almost the same.

so futurecoin sky rocketed when some people mistakenly took it  for NXT
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
1 account, 10 million.

9 anonymous people are chosen.

3 get the first part of the password.
3 get the second part of the password.
3 get the last part of the password.

So to send money, we just need to contact 1 of every group.  This needs to be a diverse group so that no one can figure out other people that might be in the group of chosen ones.

Make a script that allows input of the password parts and then executes it.

Or better yet, use some sort of screen sharing where each person then enters their password phrase. Everyone can view at the same time.

I like wesleys's idea much more than the idea of having 10 separate account controlled completely by 10 people. To summarize,  I going to put forward this proposal:

1. BCNext create a completely secure account holding 10 million fund

2. BCNext choose 9 trusted password holders who pledge 1. to never reveal the password or his names; 2. to follow the rules of funding; 3 to act expediently when the his password is required

3.
Following wesleyh's proposal  

3 get the first part of the password.
3 get the second part of the password.
3 get the last part of the password.

4. The funding for a new project would follow my concept  of "open bounty" outlined here

Anyone can step up and present his/ her idea, propose a bounty and let the community decides. So we continue the tradition of asking for bounties in a decentralized fashion as we have been already doing in nextcoin and nxtcrypto forums so far. But now funding would be a bit easier to come by since we have common pool in addition to private donors's fund.

This will work easier when we have the voting system in place. A person presents his/ her idea, propose a bounty and action plan, and set up a vote. Community can ask questions in the meantime and when the voting is over, the project will be funded if the vote passes the majority. A democratic and decentralized method of funding projects.

We can even implement this type of "open bounty" even when the voting system is not yet in place. In fact, we actually did it one time already with the case of Maco's android app as the overwhelming majority refused to fund his 500K NXT request for his app. So we actually had a precedent in place already. Let's continue the funding process in this type of decentralized fashion instead of giving one person/ or group the authority of giving out the funds.

5. When a project get funding, a time will be set so that the pass holders can coordinate and send the necessary fund to the project with funding. Make a script that allows input of the password parts and then executes it.

6. A guideline could be as follow (credit nxtberry)

I would also like to see an efficient donation/reward/funding program approx like this:
* 10 NXT donation to new nxters for basic testing
* 100 NXT reward for minor NXT promotion
* 1000 NXT graphics, branding, major promotion etc.
* 10000 NXT minor development, larger graphics work, applets, wide media promotion etc.
* 100000 NXT larger development / significant projects funding, milestone events

That's the proposal to deal with all the funding issue and all the unclaimed coins. Please support this proposal and end this debate in consensus. Please suggest modification as needed.    

Could someone talk about the details how this should work, please? How to securely do this without the risk of someone getting all 3 password pieces?

We need to copy a solution used in spy movies Smiley
It a fun, though. But weird.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

i vote for not fighting it but just because we dont fight it doesnt mean we need to go out of our way to help. let him figure it out himself. if he cant find his own solutions than they arnt really "competition" anyway
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
is NXT trading on BTC38 also now?



http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/altgeneral/663.html



Hmm,looks like it is? :-)

Google translation:

Quote
Today, the line for a famous cottage currency trading platform of the new currency NextCoin, and put its name in Chinese is called "future currency." Unexpectedly, in addition to the NXT currency called the future, there is the English name FutureCoin future currency, and has a domestic line on the new platform. Said to the children to see a bit after the "future money", a big wave white flock this platform, called FUC buying from this future currency, the price quickly pulled from 0.05 0.48 soared nearly tenfold .


WOW, BTER and BTC38???

Next stop btc-e and ...to the mooooooooooooooooooooon!
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?
Either way NEX is STILL a DECENDANT of NXT.
NXT has the 1st spot already.
But on a serious note it would be devastating if you helped out
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
I propose that we use some of the unclaimed coins for a big give-away action. Hand out big fistfuls of NXT to the people who have been supporting NXT over the last couple of months (maybe by weighting this thread contribution, to include me, of course) and then carry on with random give-aways to new Nxt'ers.

And one big give-away to a public figure/charity. All give aways will bring people in, rewarding the established community will give us a warm fuzzy feeling, and a big public figure/charity give away will get lots of coverage in mainstream news media without Nxt having to pay for advertising.

Let me again bring up the idea of using global computing, like Ripple does.

Going down the number crunching (simulated mining) type of path gives undue credibility to those who say it's not fair distribution unless all your coins are distributed that way.  Part of our message should be that our distribution is just as fair as anything else and not send mixed messages about that point.  After all, the masses won't mine or be a part of any IPO so points about initial distribution are moot to them.

I say this as someone who "mines" for Ripple on the World Community Grid for the fun if it, but I think it makes Ripple look like they are desperately trying to appease some of their biggest critics.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
Noone minds I suppose?

Could someone talk about the details how this should work, please? How to securely do this without the risk of someone getting all 3 password pieces?

Beyoncé?

No idea. Some kind of voodoo magic I suppose.

 Shocked

And now the serious answer please.

It is not working for security reason.

Now I have a vote that need your attention https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-voting-on-the-scope-of-authority-of-the-funding-committee-423241


The poll doesn't make much sense. Committee or no committee we need to decide who is holding funds first. None of poll options answers that.

A treasurer will hold the fund. For now come-from-beyond is our treasurer. He already said he can take the pressure  Roll Eyes We could help to relieve him off duty when we have multi-sign acc in place.  
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1010
i wrote something similar in the nextcoin community a month ago

but can you understand the initial investors who do not contribute to the community? I mean guys like klee and one or two other big investors are really giving away bounties and stuff like that - but some are just inactive?

I would say if every early investor would be active as for example klee regarding giveaways etc this project would already be twice as big as peercoin...

Or is there any coordinated behaviour between the initial investors and developers?

I've seen this question before. It's normal and understandable.
My own answer to it is that you can't force them to contribute, frustrating as it is.
Yes, it hurts Nxt, but it's water under the bridge now.

As far as I know there is no big coordinated initiative. But then again, some may be giving out stuff behind the scenes. I got 3500 Nxt from an unknown big account yesterday. No reply on who it was.

In short: I choose to work with the situation as is. I can't force anyone to give out their stake, so prefer to focus on the things that are, not what I'd like them to be.

My, I should become a preacher... Sorry if that sounded a bit over the top...  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Noone minds I suppose?

Could someone talk about the details how this should work, please? How to securely do this without the risk of someone getting all 3 password pieces?

Beyoncé?

No idea. Some kind of voodoo magic I suppose.

 Shocked

And now the serious answer please.

It is not working for security reason.

Now I have a vote that need your attention https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-voting-on-the-scope-of-authority-of-the-funding-committee-423241


The poll doesn't make much sense. Committee or no committee we need to decide who is holding funds first. None of poll options answers that.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
is NXT trading on BTC38 also now?



http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/altgeneral/663.html



Hmm,looks like it is? :-)

Google translation:

Quote
Today, the line for a famous cottage currency trading platform of the new currency NextCoin, and put its name in Chinese is called "future currency." Unexpectedly, in addition to the NXT currency called the future, there is the English name FutureCoin future currency, and has a domestic line on the new platform. Said to the children to see a bit after the "future money", a big wave white flock this platform, called FUC buying from this future currency, the price quickly pulled from 0.05 0.48 soared nearly tenfold .
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
yeah, cos writing any server software in C++ gives so much joy...

yeah, cos it's all about your joy, right?

Screw users, they can install JRE if they want to use our 1337 coin.


Actually writing server software in C is quite fun. Debugging threading is tricky but with right tools it again is fun.
Users indeed should not instal JVM. But we are getting there, many people are working on clients already.
I got two Qt books today, so as soon there is API in C or C++ I too will start on multiplatform client.

So far no one with Qt knowledge has applied. Anyone?
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 268
Internet of Value
I propose that we use some of the unclaimed coins for a big give-away action. Hand out big fistfuls of NXT to the people who have been supporting NXT over the last couple of months (maybe by weighting this thread contribution, to include me, of course) and then carry on with random give-aways to new Nxt'ers.

And one big give-away to a public figure/charity. All give aways will bring people in, rewarding the established community will give us a warm fuzzy feeling, and a big public figure/charity give away will get lots of coverage in mainstream news media without Nxt having to pay for advertising.

Let me again bring up the idea of using global computing, like Ripple does.


These are all viable projects and should be funded as long as we have the community's consensus.  Now exercise your right to be a Nxter and go to vote here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-voting-on-the-scope-of-authority-of-the-funding-committee-423241
legendary
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Merit: 1010
Newbie
torrent-to-NXT

Another guy offered the bounty.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1016
We already have a treasurer - Come-from-beyond.

Oh, btw, let's count pending expenses:

100k - waiting for minusbalancer
100k - waiting for BaiMangal
100k - bounty for JS implementation of NRS crypto algo
100k - total reward for AM contest
100k - total reward for fiat gateways based on Asset Exchange
XXX - bounty for 1st SMS-to-NXT gateway

Did I miss anything?
torrent-to-NXT
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
i wrote something similar in the nextcoin community a month ago

but can you understand the initial investors who do not contribute to the community? I mean guys like klee and one or two other big investors are really giving away bounties and stuff like that - but some are just inactive?

I would say if every early investor would be active as for example klee regarding giveaways etc this project would already be twice as big as peercoin...

Or is there any coordinated behaviour between the initial investors and developers?

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1001
CEO Bitpanda.com
Yeah OP did you have vanity address on all 3?
something about vanity coding a 64 char account # when you could just buy an alias makes me say WTF
No, that is the thing, i only used the vanity generator for 1 address,
Do you know where you downloaded the vanity from? Have you still got those downloaded files?

From the links in the forum. I still have both java files. Where can i upload those, so noone, uses them?

Post the sha256 sum of each file. I am pretty sure they are clean and weren't the issue.

Vanity.jar :
hex: 4d2e1e182637c564f95fea1e8864fa2364769f42e28ed4135b99b5514a7f4f1f

HEX: 4D2E1E182637C564F95FEA1E8864FA2364769F42E28ED4135B99B5514A7F4F1F

h:e:x: 4d:2e:1e:18:26:37:c5:64:f9:5f:ea:1e:88:64:fa:23:64:76:9f:42:e2:8e:d4:13:5b:99:b5:51:4a:7f:4f:1f

base64: TS4eGCY3xWT5X+oeiGT6I2R2n0LijtQTW5m1UUp/Tx8=

vanitygen_64.exe:

hex: e307cd6b49b2059fd993ce3a2e2975fc76654f90a5ee07ad04f03462f3add61d

HEX: E307CD6B49B2059FD993CE3A2E2975FC76654F90A5EE07AD04F03462F3ADD61D

h:e:x: e3:07:cd:6b:49:b2:05:9f:d9:93:ce:3a:2e:29:75:fc:76:65:4f:90:a5:ee:07:ad:04:f0:34:62:f3:ad:d6:1d

base64: 4wfNa0myBZ/Zk846Lil1/HZlT5Cl7getBPA0YvOt1h0=
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