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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool

Nice !
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool

congratulation! that is 1.3% return right there!
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After 10 days got my 1st block minted +33NXT with 2500NXT in account  Cool
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Nobody gives a damn about nxt outside the crypto currency scene (do you agree that a lot of people share this delusion that it is otherwise in this community? )

I totally agree here, and feel this has to be taken into account when considering marketing efforts.

Yes mastercoin failed at converting customers, delivering a satisfactory product and worse : they have left a bad taste with investors and potential users in crypto land…But they did drive massive amounts of traffic and interests..this is what I am getting at.

What good does any marketing do Nxt if it drives huge amounts of traffic and interest that all lead to a "bad taste with investors and potential users in crypto land"?  You agree, then, that the Mastercoin example illustrates my point.  Don't even get me started on eMunie.

We know that weslyh user friendly client isn't going to be ready till the asset exchange launch and I am not advocating a campaign to direct users to a dead-end…what I am proposing is a specially designed and incentivized, ready-set campaign towards businesses who will use the asset exchange for fundraising…our clients are not perfect, Are we going to wait till the day of the asset exchange launch to come up with the right marketing strategy?Huh

I think you're not aware of what's happening behind the scenes.  Work is in progress on these things *now*.


These line of work and education should be the BASICS!!!!!!!  they are necessary, but they are not be the reliant strategy which would catapult NXT out to the stratosphere…

What does "Nxt out to the stratosphere" mean to you?  It's a genuine question.  Help me understand your goals by defining for me what your vision of success looks like.

The point is each one of these businesses would be an individual marketing powerhouse pointing users/investors in the direction of the nxt client to access/invest/interact with the company financially. Therefore as each business grows NXT flourishes and you will have thousands of autonomous marketing agents pushing nxt indirectly to new users…

Fine.  What do those businesses get out of the deal?  How much work to they need to put in?  What is their ROI?  And once you have all that figured out, how does it compare to other possible channels?

If Nxt incentivizes a business to "get them on board", and there is no return for that business as a result, how is that any different than the kind of marketing we now both agree is BAD -- i.e. making promises on which you cannot deliver?

It's TOO EARLY for all of this, Ola.  I do take your point that we need to be planning ahead... but I also insist that this is happening, in the background, on many fronts, so that we WILL be ready when features are ready.

Now understand this, nobody outside of crypto gives a damn about nxt or bitcoin…But they sure do know an investment opportunity when they see one and they would go throughout the hoops to find a way (weslyhs client) to invest in a certain company if they think investing will bring them X amounts in profits….so which is better?

Let's see if I follow your logic:
- nobody gives a damn about Nxt or Bitcoin
- Nxt and Bitcoin are not investment opportunities, otherwise people would care about them
- people do give a damn about things that bring them profits (i.e. good invesment opportunities)
- so your point is.... Huh?  I'm lost

It sounds more and more like we absolutely agree on all fronts, Ola.

finding out that they could potentially make X% returns by using a certain client ( bitcoin=>nxt wesleyh client) to buy company shares, in which the company itself was the initiator of the investment opportunity, which is an easier process?Huh??

Oh!  This is a lovely feature of Nxt!  Tell me: how does it work?  WHat is that X you refer to?  Where is the demo of this thing?  What are the features?  When will it be out?  How can I invest?  Who do I talk to?  Do these people have real names or are you asking me to invest millions of dollars into a crypto being developed out of an Internet forum by people named after Star Trek characters?  

Sounds great! When can I start?

How can we market something that does not exist yet, is not yet fully designed, has no complete development plan, and no accountable delivery dates?  How is that that you are not understanding these fundamentals?

Look at Jean-Luc's road map.  The key message is that we need DEVELOPERS.  Without that, nothing can be built, on any timeline, EVER.

IMHO, marketing needs to assist *right now* with helping to locate developer help.  That is Priority One.

I will do a write up of the strategy by the end of this weekend and post to the nxtforum, I will also include a bounty proposal for this person as well as incentive bounties for potential businesses with realistic scalable business models  and marketing plans.

I can't wait to see it!  I'll start making the popcorn.
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Good afternoon guys  Grin


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New NXT Lite (Step 3) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxtl-next-coin-lite-register-accounts-for-investors-562027

Test network http://193.169.244.74:19775

New Features Next Coin Lite:

- Paymant
- Transaction NXL
- Ability to pay is less than 1 unit - for example 0.0001
- Transaction USD / EUR
- Own virtual currency (Asset XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXNAME)
- Instant Transactions
- Arbitrary Messaging
- Basic DDoS Protection
- Adress Book
- Reputation System




So this is NXT but in node.js???


maybe  a scam
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is anything like this being done for nxt?

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Innovations
- Payment with a security code (new function)

  How does it work?

  When you transfer the money, choose the option "security transfer". After sending the money, the system will "security code". This code you must inform the recipient. Only when the receiver will indicate the code then be able to complete the transaction. If the code is not mentioned the money back to the sender
This doesn't make sense ah?

This is like Western Union.

Since this is a piece of information you give the recipient what you are suggesting is already there and quite easy, dont broadcast the transaction, give the singed transaction to the recipient. The only problem is the danger of a double spend. Also can be done otherwise but why complicate it when it is already applicable using the current design but with a specific use to acheive  this goal.
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New NXT Lite (Step 3) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxtl-next-coin-lite-register-accounts-for-investors-562027

Test network http://193.169.244.74:19775

New Features Next Coin Lite:

- Paymant
- Transaction NXL
- Ability to pay is less than 1 unit - for example 0.0001
- Transaction USD / EUR
- Own virtual currency (Asset XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXNAME)
- Instant Transactions
- Arbitrary Messaging
- Basic DDoS Protection
- Adress Book
- Reputation System




So this is NXT but in node.js???
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Although the price is decreasing, the trade volume is very small.
It means big stakeholders are hodling. They are doing so for reasons.


I hope you think is right
Please give me a piece of good news
Thank you
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Ah my bad, it's working now.

I should have read everything finish.


Do you this is what meaning?
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is anything like this being done for nxt?

Quote
Innovations
- Payment with a security code (new function)

  How does it work?

  When you transfer the money, choose the option "security transfer". After sending the money, the system will "security code". This code you must inform the recipient. Only when the receiver will indicate the code then be able to complete the transaction. If the code is not mentioned the money back to the sender
This doesn't make sense ah?

This is like Western Union.
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My last post for a while as I am aware I am spamming this thread.....  Embarrassed

(you did want to know about development, right?  Grin  )


jl777 has a plan for fiat inside Nxt without the need and expense of dealing with all the regulations (i.e. let someone else deal with that  Grin)  >>> https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-asset-exchange-lt-gt-ripple-bridge-idea/msg7517/


So, I'm looking into what would be required to allow bridging certain assets (such as CAD, USD, BTC, XAU, and maybe some others) between Ripple gateways and the Nxt Asset Exchange in a more general way.  Some questions:

  • The wiki says it costs 1000 Nxt to issue an asset?  I guess this is intended for bulk-issues, then.  If my bridge is facilitating moving assets back and forth, that seems like it could be expensive to bridge users.  Maybe I should just issue a large amount and then just have the bridge sent out of that pool?
  • I can allow users to associate a Nxt address with the bridge and then include that info in their transactions so that sending a Ripple payment to the bridge's address will automatically send the asset of that type to their Nxt address.  If I wanted something like the reverse of this do I need to have one Nxt address per user that associates a Ripple address (like with BTC), or can I include this extra metadata in the Nxt payment itself somehow?
Hello again!
I am doing the multigateway for crypto assets, and my plan was to use ripple for fiat assets.
I was planning on implementing ripple bridges, but if you are working on it, then I wont have to.

On redemption of assets, I asked for and got a comment field added, so it will be perfect to encode the destination ripple address when a user does a redemption by transferring the asset back.

If the 1000NXT cost is a problem, I can cover the cost for you so you dont have to worry about that.

If you have any other questions, just ask.
https://github.com/jl777/NXTprotocol has a bunch of code that might help you with implementation questions

James


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Transaction Fees (truncated)
 
The fees are currently set atː

Issue an Asset on the AEː 1000 NXT

1000 NXT to issue an Asset is designed to limit Squatting of asset names when the the Asset Exchange is launched on the MainNet. A technical fix is being discussed so this fee may drop shortly before the Asset Exchange is launched or, if not, shortly after once the likelihood of squatting has diminished.
 
Future changes to the Transaction Fee are planned and the Fee will be based on the the size of the transaction. This make the fee directly proportional to the space it will occupy on the Blockchain. This will also solve the problem of preventing Spamming of the Blockchain.
 
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Source: The Nxt Glossary >>> https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Glossary


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Although the price is decreasing, the trade volume is very small.
It means big stakeholders are hodling. They are doing so for reasons.
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I want to see a matrix...basically get me a list of all comparisons side by side..and I will deliver a beautiful matrix that people will see and immediately understand  5- 1 week del time

starting point:  http://www.ofnumbers.com/2014/03/04/chapter-9-conclusions/


That is where I saw that link   Cheesy

Sepehr* with Nexern's bounty are on this, right?



*(sorry, I think I spelled your name wrong again  Embarrassed)
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Our (currently) most prominent Service Provider* developer jl777 has his published his own road map for his projects >>> https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-(third-party)/roadmap/

*(i.e. not part of the Nxt core)

jl777 also has a github somewhere too, 10,000 lines of code to produce so far on the following projects. Go go go!!

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Roadmap - Just a placeholder till I get time to write one

April 09, 2014, 02:29:25 pm

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Just a placeholder till I get time to write a better one. The order listed probably wont match actual chronology, but I will adjust as things change.

1. multigateway beta release
2. nodecoin beta release
3. multigateway bug fixes
4. secret project internal release
5. NXTmixer proof of concept
6. multigateway release candidate
7. secret project beta release
8. nodecoin destroys everything
9. eat a pizza

James

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If you just bookmark these two threads, you will be able to keep up with most broadbrush technical developments in the world of Nxt   Grin Grin Grin
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I have translated this to Chinese as following.
How is nxtcoin (nxt) proof of stake and transparent forging better than proof of work?
https://nxtforum.org/(chinese)/how-is-nxtcoin-(nxt)-proof-of-stake-and-transparent-forging-better-than-proof-of/new/#new

Donation welcomed.
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I think it was missed on this thread but there is a Development Roadmap published by Jean-Luc on nxtforum.org  >>>  https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/development-roadmap/

In short, many features are written and are being integrated into the main code as we speak ready for testing (there is also a github somewhere to prove it). If we want stuff quicker then we need to find more Java developers to spread the work around Grin Grin Grin

5* for Jl, Come-from-Beyond and the rest for the work so far.

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Development roadmap

 April 09, 2014, 02:01:43 pm

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I am now working on integrating into the develop branch the changes from
feature/tf branch that CfB was working on. Those include Digital Goods Store,
Effective Balance Leasing, Transparent Forging changes (getNextBlockGenerators),
Phased transactions (not sure if this got completed). They will be enabled only
on test net initially, but I need to merge the code, convert all amount handling
logic to NQT, do some review and refactoring, fix obvious bugs if any.

I also need to integrate the canonical signatures and AES encrypt patches from
Dr Evil, and switch the encryption in DGS to use AES.

In the meantime, Wesley and other client devs should make the transition to NQT
so that their clients work with the 0.9 branch.

The remaining issue in AE:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/issue/79/buy-order-and-sell-order-matching-does-not
needs to be resolved, and this is a good warm-up task for a new developer, while
I am busy with the above work.

After bugs in fractional NXT transactions are found and fixed, we need to try on
test net the NQT_BLOCK transition without a blockchain reset. This means, first
we do another reset by setting NQT_BLOCK in the future, so that blocks with
fractional transactions on test net get deleted and again everything is only in
whole NXT. Until NQT_BLOCK, 0.9 nodes internally use NQT, but transactions are
still signed in the old format, with integer amounts. When NQT_BLOCK is reached,
transactions after that block will be signed and verified in the new format
(amounts as longs). Around the time of the transition, transactions that were
created before NQT_BLOCK but didn't get a chance to be included in the last
non-NQT block, will end up eventually being rejected. Similarly, if a fork
reached NQT_BLOCK height sooner, and its nodes started signing transactions in
the new format sooner than the real chain, those new transactions may either get
rejected, or popped off and included in new blocks after NQT, depending on their
timestamp and deadline. So overall this is a tricky transition and we need to
rehearse it first on testnet.

Only after such test is successful, and we have switched to NQT on main net, with
all clients supporting NQT and AE, we can consider launching AE.

I need to work on moving all derived objects - Accounts, Assets, etc, to the
database. I will start on that immediately after finishing the merge of the
feature/tf branch. The launch of AE does not strictly need to wait for this to
be completed, but while everything is still kept in memory we don't have a
scalable system and if AE is unexpectedly successful we will not be prepared
to handle the sudden increase in assets, orders, trades and so on. Moving those
to the database will in turn create different performance issues that need to be
found and fixed.

There are several projects that can be taken by new developers in parallel with
the above:

The Voting System needs to be tested and put in production, and will need an API
to get some statistics about voting with various restrictions - such as, only
count NXT that did not move in the last n blocks, or that did not move after the
poll was created, or do not count accounts that were created after the poll, and
so on. Having a working Voting System is important so we can agree on changes to
the minimum fee and asset issuance fee.

Alias transfer, or maybe trading, or expiration, need to be implemented. This is
again a standalone area and I don't have the time to focus on it soon.

The performance of getNextBlockGenerators, needed for TF, has to be significantly
improved. I have some ideas about it, and will see what I can do while integrating
the feature/tf branch, but finishing it may be left for a new developer. Related
to that, the implementation of UDP server and accepting transactions over UDP for
faster and DDOS-resistant processing, is again a completely standalone project
that somebody needs to take.

Features like parallel chains, blockchain shrinkage, persisting or not of some
transactions during shrinkage, will be looked at after the above work is done.
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N.B.

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NQT
See nxtQuant.

nxtQuant
This is the name given to 0.00000001 NXT (or 10^-8 in mathematical shorthand) in the Nxt code and abbreviated to NQT. nxtQuants are equivalent to satoshis in Bitcoin and allows NXTs to be highly divisible, making them tradable with coins that have values many decimal places higher or lower than Nxt. nxtQuant is currently a temporary name.

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Source:  The Nxt Glossary  >>>  https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Glossary
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FOR ALL OF THE NEWCOMERS - WE HAVE MOVED TO A NEW FORUM!

                       https://nxtforum.org/

JUST SO YOU DON'T GET DISCOURAGED BY LOOKING AT THIS THREAD.

DEVELOPMENT IS STILL GOING ON!!
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Please check out www.nxtforum.org this is the place to be. all the good stuff is happening over there  Grin
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