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legendary
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I haven't checked nxt updates for almost 3 weeks. Now it's opensource, has anybody objected that nxt is a bad coin or is it really genius coin?

I would like to invest but I don't want to lose some of wealth knowing that nxt isn't what people expected to be.

46 pages of attempts at finding any real problems: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4453690

ricot is the only one that has come up with theoretical vulnerabilities, presumably already being fixed.

Many objections from trolls, but kind of hard to claim NXT is a scam with source code out and all prior promises being kept. NXT is more than a coin, it is a digital economy system. BCNext is the genius

Only invest for long term (in this world I guess that is for many months even years) what you are able to lose and still sleep soundly at night, short term anything can happen to the price. Long term, NXT will continue to get userbase, features, transaction fees, etc.

Being able to sleep soundly at night regardless of the current price of NXT is what will allow you to hold NXT for the long run.

James
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symbol is finally changed on coinmarket!

http://coinmarketcap.com/

thx bitcoinpaul I think

Pin

From a sales/marketing perspective... I think that calling Nextcoin by "Nxt" instead of "Nextcoin" is a huge mistake.

Nothing kills adoption faster then "confusion".  Calling something "Nxt" is confusing as hell.  I know u commented on my video once n asked me to use the term Nxt instead of Nextcoin n it took several weeks before I realized what you were even talking about.

I think we should have stuck with the term "Nextcoin".

Instead of relying on fancy names to promote Nextcoin, we should be focused on making solid features on Nxt and make it as user friendly and easy to understand as possible.

This is one area that is still lacking in the crypto market despite the fact that we have dozens of different currencies.

people who are already in the crypto currency market can figure out and understand what "Nxt" is… But people new to the crypto currency market will have no clue (unless they do extensive research) to even know that Nxt is a crypto currency.

Confusion is not good for public adoption...

I agree that confusion is best avoided.

NXT enables an entire digital economy and also creates ways for people to earn an income. It is much more than a coin. 4 of the top 10 (by marketcap) cryptos have no mention of "coin", so it does not seem to be such a critical issue of mass confusion.

I think if each NXT feature was marketed on its own merits, then the confusion will be minimized. No need to explain to somebody that is interested in Arbitrary Messages, all the details of Asset Exchange. Just need one hook to get somebody interested in NXT. Then there is the excellent wiki where they can find out all they need (or want) to know about NXT.

James
+1. Just like ripple,people also know what is it without ripplecoin or rippleXXX in cryptocurrencies.
legendary
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http://qz.com/165273/the-existential-threat-to-bitcoin-its-boosters-said-was-impossible-is-now-at-hand/

It is nice to know NXT does not have to worry about 51% attack like bitcoin. Even 90% attack can be thwarted.

James

bitcoin is vulnerable for a very unfair advantage even if a pool only owns 33% of the hashing power.  A research paper from Cornell University explains more and this following article gives a laymans view of the risk as described by the Cornell researchers: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/

I read this article about the 33% attack in November, and it is what prompted me to start searching for what I thought had the possibility to replace bitcoin, which is how I found NXT.

Yikes! 33% attack that works on bitcoin?? And such a simple strategy too...

I don't think anything like that would work in NXT, but after reading some of ricot's attack scenarios, I know I am not fully qualified to make any definitive assessment. Pretty sure Transparent Forging was designed to avoid all these type of attacks.

James
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Something like blockchain.info would be huge! Smiley
As I already discussed with ferment, it is quite possible to translate the current local java client code into javascript where all the private important data like passphrase, sigining...

...

ferment had a look into the java code and informed me that this is quite possible.

The problem is that the port to javascript to handle the encryption is pretty slow. With some user interface tricks, you would only need to do it once, but it's pretty slow to due much more than infrequent things like sendMoney (maybe forging?).

To sign transactions other than payments (alias, messages, assets) would require new APIs.

Although sendMoney in a thin JS client would be pretty cool. I wonder if anyone is working on that.  Tongue
legendary
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acc 12344:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=12344

btw one czech guy registered some accounts and he is registering aliases there only with 2-3 Nxt from faucets.. it would be much faster if he created one acc and buy there 100 nxts Smiley
HOW to generate so shorter acc?
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I haven't checked nxt updates for almost 3 weeks. Now it's opensource, has anybody objected that nxt is a bad coin or is it really genius coin?

I would like to invest but I don't want to lose some of wealth knowing that nxt isn't what people expected to be.
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Hey, what do you think about this...

NXT –  created by an unknown rebel,describeveloped by free people!

Do you like the world? Do you like the governments? The system? No? You are not alone! Nobody likes to be lied, nobody likes to be restricted, nobody likes to face a wall every time he starts a business, to be forced to break the law, to be pushed around, to be humiliated… But there’s going to be a change! BTC showed the way, it injected a virus in the system. Now NXT will do the rest. An unknown genius rebel, who watched the development of the “virus”, created his masterpiece, setting the beginning of the revolution! Nothing will stop the process, because nothing can stop it! It is irreversible! NXT creates an enviroment with countless opportunities, an environment in which we will build our empire of freedom!


I can totally see the words "genius" & "masterpiece" being used to describe satoshi but lets wait for some solid proof & evidence first before we use those words to describe BCnext.

Right now we have lots of hype n "sizzle" but I dont see any solid "steak" yet to show for the Nxt hype yet.

No hard feelings BCnext...

Right now, from an early adopter & Nxt investor perspective, all I see is another copy cat programmer attempting to copy satoshi's shroud of anonymity, idea of a public ledger,  etc.

Being "original" is genius.
Being "different" is NOT genius.

Keep in mind that satoshi created btc to take power away from the 1% on wall street  n give it back to the 99% on Main Street while BCnext created nxt for personal financial gains.

keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with doing some thing for personal financial gains but I would hesitate to compare or place an unproven coder on the genius level of satoshi.

I invested in nxt because it was the first copy cat coin to make an attempt to come up with its own source code instead of being lazy n copying satoshi's code.

Is it possible that BCnext is another genius like satoshi?  Of course its possible...

I hope BCnext is able to produce the code that he claims n provide proof of his genius. ..

Until there is proof... BCnext is just another wanna be copy cat...

once proof is clearly available. .. I will be the first to promote the genius of BCnext's.




Wow I thought you should know better since you said you are an investor from an early day. The guy doesn't care about money. You should come back and browse all the posts BCNext made in this forum and you will see that the guy want to make his idea material first. Financial gain will come but I don't think that is his primary concern. If he is materialistic, he would have done another J.R mastercoin fundraising style and pocket 1-2 thousand BTC instead of a mere 21 BTC.

It takes a historical perspective to know what kind of contributions BCNext would make so I agree that at this point over-hype is premature. But in my personal observations, he has shown some signs of a genius in the making in some levels. There are technical innovations such as POS, transparent forging, however what I see the most valuable in his works is a coherent vision of what a decentralized network could be. It's similar to the way Steve Job designs the first Iphone. There are technical improvements compared to earlier smartphones in the first Iphone, but much more important innovation is the way everything is brought together to define what a smartphone should be. NXT decentralized network could be the same. It will succeed not on a specific feature but on the way all the different features are bought together in a coherent framework; plus all that hi-techs are accompanied with strong message of decentralization and community involvement. That the whole package together imho is the novel contribution.    

Satoshi has paved the way with his blockchain original idea. But without a written evidences, I doubt Satoshi has such a strong vision of how a decentralized network based on blockchain technology could be. So in a sense, BCNext extends Satoshi's original idea.

We still need to wait for the actual implementation of NXT decentralized network and there are still much uncertainty ahead. But the only reason I has devoted so much my time to this venture is because I has a conviction in my above judgement. I believe in NXT success and the validation of BCNext's ideas.

If I was a coder, i would jump in to help in developing nxt because i believe it has huge potential but i'm not a coder.

i specialize in sales/marketing but i can't promote nxt n it's features/benefits when it doesn't exist yet...

Nxt is still very young so i'm in no rush cuz i know it takes time... all i'm saying is that BCnext still in Beta n unproven at this point that's all...
Lol, guys, relax! Everything started from my "hot" words. Obviously they sound too strong now, but i did't mean to put them in any media or so. Just wrote some words because i felt excited like most of us. Maybe one day we may use such words for PR, but at the present moment it will most likely make new people very suspicious. I think that's what @Asian Prepper meant. And for people who have been following the thread since the very beginning, it is quite obvious that BCnext and Come-from-beyond are quite clever (if not genious). Peace!  Wink
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http://qz.com/165273/the-existential-threat-to-bitcoin-its-boosters-said-was-impossible-is-now-at-hand/

It is nice to know NXT does not have to worry about 51% attack like bitcoin. Even 90% attack can be thwarted.

James

bitcoin is vulnerable for a very unfair advantage even if a pool only owns 33% of the hashing power.  A research paper from Cornell University explains more and this following article gives a laymans view of the risk as described by the Cornell researchers: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/

I read this article about the 33% attack in November, and it is what prompted me to start searching for what I thought had the possibility to replace bitcoin, which is how I found NXT.
legendary
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http://qz.com/165273/the-existential-threat-to-bitcoin-its-boosters-said-was-impossible-is-now-at-hand/

It is nice to know NXT does not have to worry about 51% attack like bitcoin. Even 90% attack can be thwarted.

James
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Gang,

Would appreciate Chinese speakers looking this over for errors. Also, I know nothing about leading/kerning/spacing with Chinese characters and what's appropriate.

big image - snip

Also, full-size PDF is here

EDIT: sorry, forgot to credit Miramare from the nextcoin.org forum for supplying Chinese text.

There are more features without mention, for example, arbitrary message, voting system and so on.

Having my friend look at it now. Will try to translate arbitrary message, voting system too.
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The NXT Foundation will at not cost to you manage your VPS; this offer comes with a custom SCREENNAME.vps.nxtcrypto.org domain name visible in peer lists!  All you hae to do is pay for the VPS and we will do the rest.

1) Sign up https://www.budgetvm.com/account/cart.php?gid=64  They accept PayPal.  Or use Digital Ocean.  Or use any other provider.  You need at least 1024MB of RAM on the VPS though.

2) The 1024MB VPS for $4.99/month should be sufficient unless you have a hallmark balance with more than 1,000,000 NXT, in that case please choose the 2048MB VPS for $9.99/month

3) When signing up for a VPS, when they ask for a hostname for your VPS, enter in: SCREENNAME.vps.nxtcrypto.org

4) When selecting an OS, please choose Debian6 x64

5) Send a Private Message in the NXT Foundation Forums to user forkedchain.  The Forums are at http://forums.nxtcrypto.org and in the PM please include the VPS's IP address, root password, and your generated hallmark for hostname SCREENNAME.vps.nxtcrypto.org.  You can generate your hallmark at https://localhost:7875/admin.html but please do this in private browsing mode so that your passphrase isnt cached to your disk

6) The NXT Foundation will 100% manage the VPS for you; you will still have shell access and I will give you a script on your server you can run ant any time to check your server at any time, like user abctc has on the VPS we are managing for that user account.

root@abctc:~# nxtstat

    "availableProcessors": 1,
    "cumulativeDifficulty": "1027491128460853",
    "freeMemory": 109647744,
    "lastBlock": "9944586979784265880",
    "lastBlockchainFeeder": "vps12.nxtcrypto.org",
    "maxMemory": 259522560,
    "numberOfAccounts": 13905,
    "numberOfAliases": 45068,
    "numberOfAssets": 0,
    "numberOfBlocks": 38813,
    "numberOfOrders": 0,
    "numberOfPeers": 284,
    "numberOfTransactions": 79792,
    "numberOfUsers": 0,
    "time": 4197595,
    "totalEffectiveBalance": 98952817300,
    "totalMemory": 259522560,
    "version": "0.5.5"

root@abctc:~#
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After listening to your criticism I decided to reduce the BTC withdrawal fee to 0.0001 BTC (just enough to cover the cost of the transfer)

Please reconsider using NewAltEx.com

Thank you

Good job, I am already registered.
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few investors "bought" 100% premine. i have seen enough big-big walls on dgex that were made only to fear people, manipulation and scam. hope you will have your personal place in the Hell.  Kiss
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Did I get this right? The asset exchange will be implemented, no voting for it. But buying/selling/transferring aliases is questionable and will be voted for?
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DGEX 24h Volume:   1499620.00 (72.67411380 BTC)

Less than 100btc
The new record, we should celebrate?
legendary
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So, you premined 100% and still don't do a giveaway?

So, you decided you would come in, spout your opinion and ask for a giveaway?

Not asking for a giveaway. Just questioning your marketing strategies
If you'd done some research, you'd know that there have been giveaways and there still are loads of bounties for people who contribute.

You'd also know that the word "mine" doesn't apply here.

I did know that. I did my research. Still don't think that's sufficient

I have been thinking about that last sentence, and the only answer I can come up with is: "So, how do you propose to solve that? Force people to give it away?"
Or is it basically just a statement that means to say "I disapprove"?

The people who hold the big load should give more away, yes. That's the only way 'the masses' will approve of this coin. As long as a few people hold 90% of the coins, this won't work.

and then one cheater came, created 70 accounts and gatheret 35.000 nxt with them in generous giveaways... not cool
Investigation and check is necessary before giveaways, e.g. what he/she has done.
legendary
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rickyjames,

I've got most of the whitepaper content thrown together, but it is still very rough and not really reading like a whitepaper to me.

It needs somebody elses touch and I like how you write. Could you take a stab at editing it so it reads like a whitepaper? I have some more content for NXT yields section 11, but the rest is ready for some new eyes

James

Roger.  Will look at it later tonite after my tablet and I finish supper.

Thanks!
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I don't really come from outer space.
although I assume we would load the ECC version of the account number into the phone with a QR scan

For face-to-face transactions and point-of-sale with your phone, NFC for those that support it and QR for those that don't. 

For web sites, transactions need to be as behind-the-scenes as possible. 

I'm personally waiting to see what comes out of the Curve25519 JavaScript bounty. I think signing transactions from within the browser could potentially solve the on-line store problem.
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rickyjames,

I've got most of the whitepaper content thrown together, but it is still very rough and not really reading like a whitepaper to me.

It needs somebody elses touch and I like how you write. Could you take a stab at editing it so it reads like a whitepaper? I have some more content for NXT yields section 11, but the rest is ready for some new eyes

James

Roger.  Will look at it later tonite after my tablet and I finish supper.
legendary
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I just posted a proposal to fix the account number typo-problem over at the official forums:
https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=524 <- making NXT account numbers awesome!

What do you think about that?
I think this is a great idea and I will support including it in the official client.


Apologies if I posted this already - why can't we just add a check digit instead of changing the account number to alphabetti-spaghetti, not perfect but i would catch the majority of errors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn_algorithm

cause if you look at two strings: DatS7 and opKrN you instantly see the difference, the lesser the alphabet, the less difference is visible on two words over that alphabet...

I agree but the current proposal is not restricted to alphanumerics based on the examples I tried, it gets special characters like #$ etc which makes things harder especially on a smart phone.

Anyway I agree with xyzzyx that this is low level stuff and once its stored then we will use pin access, although I assume we would load the ECC version of the account number into the phone with a QR scan so I guess it really doesn't matter - the important thing is the account gets set correctly.

correct

We need a layer above current unprotected accts and might as well go with best possible method, which is undoubtedly an ECC layer. https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=524 has a great discussion on the reed solomon method ricot proposed.

Once we have that, we can build more user friendly layers such as allowing people to use their cellphones and scan QRcodes to send/recv payments.

One step at a time. Or since we are decentralized, all steps all the time! As soon as Reed Solomon accts are defined, no reason cellphone QRcodes can't be implemented on top of ECC accts

James
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