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I have a large account balance, and the other day I noticed a few separate transactions in my history where unknown users to me had sent 1 NXT amounts to my account. I hadn't noticed them before, as the only difference between a forged NXT and a sent NXT is the small icon next to the transaction number.

I suspect someone was experimenting with trying to identify the location of accounts with large balances on the network. I don't have much experience with these things, but I suspect there could be ways of analysing transaction logs and other data sources to try and determine the IP address, or identity/location of an open account.

My account number is one of the accounts on the block explorer page of top accounts, so I think someone was searching for the location & account status of big accounts.


Dont worry. It was me, who added your account to one of NXT faucet, as you seems too poor to fund activity of NXT supporters or too busy watching your balance growing.

Joke. Or not?

Dont take it personally. This is my message to all high volume shareholders.
sr. member
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I don't really come from outer space.

That said, I have done some thinking, and I would like to explore the possibility of using my account to forge NXT for community activities like faucets, promotion, and bounties. I would retain full ownership of the account, but I would be happy for all the forging revenue to go into funding community activities.

My intention would be to help create a consistent revenue stream to help fund worthwhile activities.


I don't have the knowledge to help you in your goal, but I just wanted to let you know that I think you're pretty awesome.  That is all.
legendary
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does anybody have the latest list of servers? I can´t find it
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You might have overlooked this... but it still SOLVES the issue because a hacker would not get far if he/she found only the cmd window open because the passphrase is needed in order to send NXT this way... as opposed to finding the browser open with an unlocked account where they would freely send NXT without needing the passphrase (at least until a client comes out that will ask for the passphrase again).

Just explaining for the rest... I know you get it!   Wink

Then I did misunderstand your original question. Yes, with the cmd window open there appears to be no easy way to s(p)end NXT without knowing the passphrase. Certainly no supported API call.

However, if someone does get SSH access to your server and can login with the unix user that is running the Java process (or root, or a user that can sudo, etc), and you have used the web browser to unlock your account using your passphrase since Java was last restarted (i.e. your are actively trying to forge), then that person can get your passphrase. It's not trivial, but it's not difficult either. I've tested it on a remote instance just now, and it was relatively straightforward. It could probably be scripted to get the passphrase quickly and transparently, and bundled into your favourite trojan/virus/rat/etc.

(I was testing on Linux, but the same would likely apply with remote access to Windows).

So there are interesting questions about where you should forge, what precautions you should take, and with how much of your nxt stash. Don't assume that typing your passphrase over SSL to your VPS is necessarily enough. I don't believe this is purely a client-related topic, so long as the key required to forge is the same as the key required to send/spend nxt. I understand that transparent mining/forging and/or multi-sig (?) may fix this, but I don't know much about those concepts yet.





Thanks for spelling this out!! The fear of being hacked has stopped me forging now. I asked a question along these lines a couple of days ago on a related theme but haven't had a response yet (I know everyone on the dev side is super busy now) - My question is, is it possible to detect the location and status of unlocked accounts on other nodes? If it is, then forging with a large account is too risky IMO.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4182386


I have a large account balance, and the other day I noticed a few separate transactions in my history where unknown users to me had sent 1 NXT amounts to my account. I hadn't noticed them before, as the only difference between a forged NXT and a sent NXT is the small icon next to the transaction number.

I suspect someone was experimenting with trying to identify the location of accounts with large balances on the network. I don't have much experience with these things, but I suspect there could be ways of analysing transaction logs and other data sources to try and determine the IP address, or identity/location of an open account.

My account number is one of the accounts on the block explorer page of top accounts, so I think someone was searching for the location & account status of big accounts.

That said, I have done some thinking, and I would like to explore the possibility of using my account to forge NXT for community activities like faucets, promotion, and bounties. I would retain full ownership of the account, but I would be happy for all the forging revenue to go into funding community activities.

My intention would be to help create a consistent revenue stream to help fund worthwhile activities. I have enough NXT, but I don't have the time or skills to contribute much to all the good things going on at the moment. I am also not interested in choosing worthwhile people and projects myself. I have too many commitments (work & family), and I'm finding it too hard to keep up with all the reading required to be an active, and informed, participant. I can see that there are others in the NXT community with time, passion and skills. I want to help supply those people with a small, but consistent revenue stream.

I am prepared to investigate this, but I think the hacking threat of forging with a known account is too great at the moment. Once this risk is eliminated (if it can be) my account could forge 24/7. That would be 1-4% of the NXT supply, depending on how much more NXT I sell. If other big stake holders contributed we could create a semi-permanent funding source to help NXT in these formative years.

But the security situation has to be 100% water tight.

sr. member
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I don't really come from outer space.
I noticed that if you need to differentiate between an account with zero balance, and an account that has never been funded, you can do this:

Code:
http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=listAccountAliases&account=[ACCOUNT_NUMBER]

An account that was never funded will return error code 5.  An account that was funded, but now has a zero balance will return an alias list (even an empty list if no aliases were registered in that account.)

This seems like a hack though, so I wouldn't assume it will always be this way in future versions of the server.

legendary
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Correction, that was the test address. The live gateway is on https

https://peercover.com/#/simpleGateway

Its everything people have been asking for. More secure using https, more robust using distributed ledger. Has account confirmation prior to withdrawing to NXT account. Automated deposits and withdrawals.

All we need is someone who is already on ripple to deposit NXT and put in some good sell offers, or I can do all the work within price guidelines, just PM me to work out the details, but basically you would just send NXT to peercover and I will send BTC back to you after the inventory is sold.

I am planning on bringing some large investors through ripple, so the sooner we get the connection between NXT and ripple flowing, the better.

James
legendary
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Peercover has been working hard and has already implemented the account balance check prior to withdrawing to a NXT account.

http://dev.peercover.com/#/simpleGateway

Is ready to start getting more traffic. The trading is via distributed ledger so no single point of failure. Making deposits and withdrawals are automated. Conversion to other currencies is built in.

If you don´t have a ripple account, it´s easy to open one at https://ripple.com/client/#/register

All we need is some NXT inventory and a market will form as there is also interest in the ripple community about NXT. If any founder is willing to help jump start a market, please PM me. You can set the min price you want to get for a block of NXT and I will do all the ripple things and get it sold for you, I just need some NXT to make a market, probably 100,000 NXT will be plenty.

James

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Nxt-kit developer
statistic about aliases:

there're 806 accounts registered aliases till block 28122,
among these accounts, 408 acounts registered more than 1 aliases
the total number of aliases is 28775
more statistics were posted and are going to be posted in my chinese blog:
http://t.cn/8k1HQKQ
visitors are welcome!

top100 list:
Code:
  rank No.alias   account-id
     1 1912 8777528113398257759
     2 1891 2345678935869777788
      ....
I urgently need to register 22 more Angry
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statistic about aliases:

there're 806 accounts registered aliases till block 28122,
among these accounts, 408 acounts registered more than 1 aliases
the total number of aliases is 28775
more statistics were posted and are going to be posted in my chinese blog:
http://t.cn/8k1HQKQ
visitors are welcome!

top100 list:
Code:
  rank No.alias   account-id
     1 1912 8777528113398257759
     2 1891 2345678935869777788
     3 1702 14205721421835156777
     4 740 15003961341330858247
     5 699 9665584253807221533
     6 685 3152075506729844409
     7 638 13772099588186083271
     8 551 11847040843124434613
     9 533 14775059225122524210
    10 514 14174112712561267747
    11 493 16450046986936640235
    12 488 7410447374099440095
    13 487 2456830209281898663
    14 458 16529073039191263275
    15 451 11815625841889064569
    16 405 16121687483446533972
    17 402 11502432007822939023
    18 384 13891739725946840876
    19 369 6798098127452659076
    20 353 17706353955227879985
    21 320 3638231596998823718
    22 320 14182154434856339588
    23 307 3231334237813262073
    24 303 1049669462580447269
    25 285 9791241773871775335
    26 276 2144884789748792537
    27 260 9409573022536643033
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    29 256 9266078219842661925
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    60 96 11808843209245600862
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    86 65 9957773085573955691
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sr. member
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AKA jefdiesel
I just tested peercover NXT exchange, deposit NXT, withdraw NXT, trading
it works fine, but there's not too many ppl there,
stakeholders, if you go to peercover and sell nxt in reasonable price, I shall buy some.
peercover is more secure

thats the point, there are no offers.
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I just tested peercover NXT exchange, deposit NXT, withdraw NXT, trading
it works fine, but there's not too many ppl there,
stakeholders, if you go to peercover and sell nxt in reasonable price, I shall buy some.
peercover is more secure
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Undecided Only 200 aliases... I feel I should have at least twice that. Some are registering hourly,,, some others are not adding though. Could it take more than 24 hours to update?

See someone locked in Sakura in all 30 plus ways it can be written  Grin Still got an alt of it in 1337

I hope you make a lot of money from it.
heh, probably not Smiley
Some aliases I'm very surprised I got. Other fairly obscure ones I'm surprised were already taken.

Waiting for the servers to come online as I have another 700 to input. I can see doing 10k atleast...

Kinda wish you could batch upload a list of Aliases.... instead of this tedious 1 by 1 shit
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AKA jefdiesel

[via google spreadsheets]

Is there a link to this?  Is it getting updated in realtime?  Near realtime?

Ricky, that was a snapshot that Yurgeorge posted without comment a few hours ago..not dynamic
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Can you post the charts in trading thread.  This thread was generally for tech stuff.
legendary
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Can someone help me? I made a transfer on the 27th worth 17,000 NXT from DGEX.com into my NXT account (13480670143410523480). Up until today it was saying that the withdrawal was pending on DGEX, but now it is saying it has been completed. I haven't seen it in my NXT account yet. The transaction wasn't on the blockchain explorer yesterday, and I can't check it right now because the explorer is down. This is my transaction:


2013-12-27 05:19:38       Withdrawal fee   0.00000000
2013-12-27 05:19:38       NXT Withdrawal COMPLETED   -17000.00000000


Should I be worried?

{"balance":1700000,"effectiveBalance":0,"unconfirmedBalance":1700000}

Could you explain for me what this means?

That someone sent you this, but the 17000 NXT are not yet confirmed. Meaning that the Deadline is not over, but it is also not included in a block.

Why it is that way, i don't know. Maybe someone else can elaborate.
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Can someone help me? I made a transfer on the 27th worth 17,000 NXT from DGEX.com into my NXT account (13480670143410523480). Up until today it was saying that the withdrawal was pending on DGEX, but now it is saying it has been completed. I haven't seen it in my NXT account yet. The transaction wasn't on the blockchain explorer yesterday, and I can't check it right now because the explorer is down. This is my transaction:


2013-12-27 05:19:38       Withdrawal fee   0.00000000
2013-12-27 05:19:38       NXT Withdrawal COMPLETED   -17000.00000000


Should I be worried?

{"balance":1700000,"effectiveBalance":0,"unconfirmedBalance":1700000}

Could you explain for me what this means?
NWO
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If you want a new exchange for Nxt, voice your thoughts here. I have a solution.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/suggestion-nxt-trading-in-the-ripple-protocol-new-nxt-exchange-391203
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[via google spreadsheets]

Is there a link to this?  Is it getting updated in realtime?  Near realtime?
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I have an URGENT feature request.
Currently ALL addresses are valid and sending money to an acct create it. This is all cool and stuff, but one typo and money is gone forever.

Without changing too much of the code, I think if we just brought up a warning that "you are about to send money to an account with zero balance. Are you sure?" or even better would be to display some basic statistics about the account that is being sent to, time acct has been open, number of transactions, etc.

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