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ImmortAlex

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Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:38:33 AM

Due to distributed nature no way to stop nodes from going on as if nothing is wrong. Seems that an emergency stop mechanism might be a good thing.

There is no emergency stop mechanism in any cryptocurrency. Those of us, who are humans, understand that there is an error in code which leads to wrong transactions and balances. In other way, software is dumb and brainless, it doesn't know that it produces errors. Even more: all instances of NRS have consensus now, that blockchain is valid. Even if you stop 90% of nodes, remains will forge wrong chain.
We just need to wait for fix. And yes - this fix will destroy all wrong blocks since 24180 and their transactions.

wakasaki808

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hopefully CfB comes back soon...

jl777

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msin,

Don't worry, that didn't actually happen, if it was after block 24179.

James

msin

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It appears with my account that I mined some blocks that generated extremely large negative amounts, and now my wallet has a negative balance. Really crazy.

Buratino

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Good high-load and stress test for NXT. Future will tell.

Anon136

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Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:38:33 AM

So everyone is doing things and it will all be like it never happened? Due to distributed nature no way to stop nodes from going on as if nothing is wrong. Seems that an emergency stop mechanism might be a good thing. BCNext could probably figure out how to implement a "ctrl-S" on the blockchain...

So, we need to stay up until new client with fix comes out so we can reregister aliases. Contact all sellers and have them resend the NXT. Should dgex.com be warning people?

In the future when there is more and more functionality and data in the blockchain, this sort of thing becomes a bigger and bigger nightmare. Why is everybody so calm about this?

James

because its alpha. we all knew things like this would happen. it even happened to bitcoin.

jl777

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So everyone is doing things and it will all be like it never happened? Due to distributed nature no way to stop nodes from going on as if nothing is wrong. Seems that an emergency stop mechanism might be a good thing. BCNext could probably figure out how to implement a "ctrl-S" on the blockchain...

So, we need to stay up until new client with fix comes out so we can reregister aliases. Contact all sellers and have them resend the NXT. Should dgex.com be warning people?

In the future when there is more and more functionality and data in the blockchain, this sort of thing becomes a bigger and bigger nightmare. Why is everybody so calm about this?

James

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Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:02:57 AM

I am a bit confused. Will transactions after 24180, eg. everything happening now, be properly reconciled into the new corrected blockchain?

If not, what happens to people who bought NXT since 24180?

James

No automatic reconciliation. Everything after 24179 has never happened.
You should contact to your seller to solve this problem. If you bought it on dgex, they may have stored all transactions in their database so they can reconcile them manually (if they want).

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Quote from: Anon136 on December 25, 2013, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:25:31 AM

User705,

Luckily, I got the NXT direct from reputable source, but if this means thousands of transactions will have to be redone, wouldn't it be better to somehow stop things?

I also registered a bunch of aliases. I suppose those would be up for grabs when 24180 is fixed?

I would hope only the tainted blocks would have to be redone. What about all the people with dgex withdrawals pending? What a mess.

Tell me this won't require massive manual cleanup.

James

what is this i hear about thousands of transactions being undone? link to w/e you are talking about pls!

because of things like this...

Quote from: wakasaki808 on December 24, 2013, 09:16:12 PM

Quote from: mcjavar on December 24, 2013, 09:10:38 PM

Made some quick research on the issue with the huge transactions.

The nxts were popping up here first: (passphrase "1")
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=3705364957971254799

Some of them were transferred to this address:
17910736633224260418

Which belongs to the user nozi123
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nozi123-168584
(he was online when all this happened)

He also posted in here, asking where his coins are which he bought from dgex.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.6640
(his post was later deleted form the thread but I replied him quoting his original question with the account number he provided)

What to do? Can we do anything? Is it worth to do anything?

-4,294,967,296 NXT...

wtf...

looks like the guys who got the Nxt transferred it as well.

OMG

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=5250567211981518110

1,111,000,000 NXT...

Shocked

We've got accounts with balances OVER the 1 billion Nxt available...and accounts with negative balances...

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Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:25:31 AM

User705,

Luckily, I got the NXT direct from reputable source, but if this means thousands of transactions will have to be redone, wouldn't it be better to somehow stop things?

I also registered a bunch of aliases. I suppose those would be up for grabs when 24180 is fixed?

I would hope only the tainted blocks would have to be redone. What about all the people with dgex withdrawals pending? What a mess.

Tell me this won't require massive manual cleanup.

James

what is this i hear about thousands of transactions being undone? link to w/e you are talking about pls!

Anon136

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Quote from: User705 on December 25, 2013, 12:23:02 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on December 25, 2013, 12:18:03 AM

Giving my wifes brother NXT for christmas Grin

. Someone gave my wife a lottery ticket for christmas so i thought why the hell not!

Might be better then XBT.

thats what i think. you are never going to get rich off of $20 worth of bitcoin someday. but you MAY get rich off of $20 worth of NXT someday.

jl777

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User705,

Luckily, I got the NXT direct from reputable source, but if this means thousands of transactions will have to be redone, wouldn't it be better to somehow stop things?

I also registered a bunch of aliases. I suppose those would be up for grabs when 24180 is fixed?

I would hope only the tainted blocks would have to be redone. What about all the people with dgex withdrawals pending? What a mess.

Tell me this won't require massive manual cleanup.

James

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Quote from: Anon136 on December 25, 2013, 12:18:03 AM

Giving my wifes brother NXT for christmas Grin

. Someone gave my wife a lottery ticket for christmas so i thought why the hell not!

Might be better then XBT.

Anon136

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Giving my wifes brother NXT for christmas Grin

. Someone gave my wife a lottery ticket for christmas so i thought why the hell not!

User705

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First 100% Liquid Stablecoin Backed by Gold

Quote from: jl777 on December 25, 2013, 12:02:57 AM

I am a bit confused. Will transactions after 24180, eg. everything happening now, be properly reconciled into the new corrected blockchain?

If not, what happens to people who bought NXT since 24180?

James

Depends who you bought it from. Wink

Trace back the source of the coins you got.

jl777

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I am a bit confused. Will transactions after 24180, eg. everything happening now, be properly reconciled into the new corrected blockchain?

If not, what happens to people who bought NXT since 24180?

James

msin

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Does anyone else have a negative balance in their wallet? Yikes!

Drexme

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Lol! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4132014
Somebody likes NXT design

EmoneyRu

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Quote from: jl777 on December 24, 2013, 11:21:42 PM

I also don't think this is a branch, isn't the corruption in the main trunk?

Like in git, there is no main branch. We think that the main is the longest normal chain. Say that there is chain with the end 24179 is the last normal and it is not growing for a while

Quote from: hilotime on December 24, 2013, 11:43:22 PM

James,

Persistence pays off. I am a NXT community member. I have 2500.00 NXT. How can I deploy these funds to assist in growing the NXT community? Thank you, James.

Hilotime

Set up your own VPS or send some nxt to another person to do that

hilotime

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James,

Persistence pays off. I am a NXT community member. I have 2500.00 NXT. How can I deploy these funds to assist in growing the NXT community? Thank you, James.

Hilotime

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