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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 02:01:59 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on December 20, 2013, 01:53:38 AM

I think I'm starting to get it. Is it true that the generationSignatures are totally deterministic? If you wanted too you could spend computing power to calculate who would win the right to author blocks far off into the future?

Output of next signature depends only on input of previous one. For example:

F(x) = x*2

Then we have such a sequence of outcomes: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32...

Transactions included into a block can't change it, there is a special "blockSignature" for them.

Great! im definitely beginning to understand.

So next question. What mechanism prevents people from purposefully creating accounts with public keys which will allow them to author an upcoming block?

*edit* there is definitely a tip in this for you if you have good answers to all of my questions Grin

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 02:03:02 AM

I'm preparing version 0.4.0, if noone reports a bug in alias system within 2 hours, I'll publish it.

And just to confirm, 0.4.0 is to be deployed in real network?

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I'm preparing version 0.4.0, if noone reports a bug in alias system within 2 hours, I'll publish it.

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Quote from: Anon136 on December 20, 2013, 01:53:38 AM

I think I'm starting to get it. Is it true that the generationSignatures are totally deterministic? If you wanted too you could spend computing power to calculate who would win the right to author blocks far off into the future?

Output of next signature depends only on input of previous one. For example:

F(x) = x*2

Then we have such a sequence of outcomes: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32...

Transactions included into a block can't change it, there is a special "blockSignature" for them.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:35:14 AM

Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:32:50 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:30:33 AM

Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:28:30 AM

{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown alias"}

Ur transaction wasn't confirmed or u use incorrect alias.

for "baidu":{"transaction":"16830272214888653693"}
And how I can know if it is confirmed or not?

This is for "jd". (http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=16830272214888653693)

"confirmations" tells if it's confirmed.

Thank U cfb,got it.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:10:51 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on December 20, 2013, 01:08:07 AM

can you link me to the original source where you got this information. i really want to read more.

Other guy has answered on nextcoin.org about that.

I think I'm starting to get it. Is it true that the generationSignatures are totally deterministic? If you wanted too you could spend computing power to calculate who would win the right to author blocks far off into the future?

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Will you be posting instructions on how to assign alias before block 22000?

thnx

Yes.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:27:26 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on December 20, 2013, 01:26:37 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:06:11 AM

Edit: I've seen the date of ur post, it had been posted 1 day before Nxt released. Did u write about ur invention somewhere else or earlier?

No that was the first time and I wrote about it the same day that i thought of it. But you say that I posted it 1 day before nxt right? that technically makes it my invention right? Grin

Right. And technically this makes me to suspect that u r BCNext.

Edit: I'd like to hear ur opinion regarding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/transparent-mining-or-what-makes-nxt-a-2nd-generation-currency-364218

haha no I'm a scrub programmer. my highest programming accomplishment to date is chess in the console with no AI. I'm much better at conceptualizing higher level abstractions than the logistics of implementation.

actually this is a really common thing. inventions are more often than not invented by a half a dozen people all over the world at the same time. we probably thought of it at the exact same time and i just wrote about it first. here is wikipedia on the phenomena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery

ill check it out.

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Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:32:50 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:30:33 AM

Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:28:30 AM

{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown alias"}

Ur transaction wasn't confirmed or u use incorrect alias.

for "baidu":{"transaction":"16830272214888653693"}
And how I can know if it is confirmed or not?

This is for "jd". (http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=16830272214888653693)

"confirmations" tells if it's confirmed.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:30:33 AM

Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:28:30 AM

{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown alias"}

Ur transaction wasn't confirmed or u use incorrect alias.

for "baidu":{"transaction":"16830272214888653693"}
And how I can know if it is confirmed or not?

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Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on December 20, 2013, 01:29:46 AM

Is 6874 the new API port?

NO. This is for TEST network only.

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Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:28:30 AM

{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown alias"}

Ur transaction wasn't confirmed or u use incorrect alias.

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Is 6874 the new API port?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:22:51 AM

@CFB

runing client overnight
I have register "baidu"

request:
http://localhost:6874//nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=baidu

return:
HTTP ERROR 404

Problem accessing //nxt. Reason:

Not Found
Powered by Jetty://

Is it right?

No. Try http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=baidu

{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown alias"}

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Quote from: Anon136 on December 20, 2013, 01:26:37 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:06:11 AM

Edit: I've seen the date of ur post, it had been posted 1 day before Nxt released. Did u write about ur invention somewhere else or earlier?

No that was the first time and I wrote about it the same day that i thought of it. But you say that I posted it 1 day before nxt right? that technically makes it my invention right? Grin

Right. And technically this makes me to suspect that u r BCNext.

Edit: I'd like to hear ur opinion regarding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/transparent-mining-or-what-makes-nxt-a-2nd-generation-currency-364218

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 20, 2013, 01:06:11 AM

Edit: I've seen the date of ur post, it had been posted 1 day before Nxt released. Did u write about ur invention somewhere else or earlier?

No that was the first time and I wrote about it the same day that i thought of it. But you say that I posted it 1 day before nxt right? that technically makes it my invention right? Grin

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Quote from: allwelder on December 20, 2013, 01:22:51 AM

@CFB

runing client overnight
I have register "baidu"

request:
http://localhost:6874//nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=baidu

return:
HTTP ERROR 404

Problem accessing //nxt. Reason:

Not Found
Powered by Jetty://

Is it right?

No. Try http://localhost:6874/nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=baidu

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@CFB

runing client overnight
I have register "baidu"

request:
http://localhost:6874//nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=baidu

return:
HTTP ERROR 404

Problem accessing //nxt. Reason:

Not Found
Powered by Jetty://

Is it right?

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Quote from: joefox on December 19, 2013, 10:19:38 PM

Quote from: windjc on December 19, 2013, 09:51:48 PM

Mac 10.6.8? Cool

OMG. Upgrade your Mac instead of asking developers to support an operating system that is three major versions behind the current one.

Mavericks is FREE: http://www.apple.com/ca/osx/how-to-upgrade/

And if you don't want to run Mavericks, go to 10.7, for FREE: http://os-x-lion-1074.en.softonic.com/mac

Even my ancient, ANCIENT Mac Mini can run 10.7. You have no excuse.

I didn't actually realize this. I didn't know I could upgrade my operating system without getting a new computer.

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Btw, BCNext extended the idea and proposed Transparent Mining to counteract 51% attack, Nxt is resistant to 90+% attacks.

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