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legendary
Activity: 2142
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No, that's not it. I can start from genesis block or the files included with latest release, will still run into this problem when/if it "catches up..." the second time after the initial block download.

Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67242472/peers.nxt, it contains marked peers.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
I have this bug to report. It's a second or third time I've seen it and I think it's easily reproduceable. This is on Debian Linux. Not sure if this is OS specific, but trying to give all details here. It may even be a known issue, not sure.

I have started NXT 0.3.18 and it began to download the blockchain. Then I tried to terminate it with CTRL+C BEFORE it fully downloaded, but it didn't want to exit, so I issued a kill -9 PID. Then I started the software again, but it turns out the blocks.nxt got corrupted, because the browser began to spit the java.nullpointer exception message. Had to stop the server, replace blocks.nxt with the blocks.nxt.bak file, and then start it again, and then it was alright.

So, why is it, that before the full block chain is downloaded and you stop the server, the server doesn't want to exit, and kill -9 PID corrupts the blocks.nxt file. There has to be a way to exit the server without corrupting the block chain even though the block chain isn't fully downloaded. Or did I have to wait longer for the server to exit after CTRL+C?

Thx for the report. I'll add a code that checks if CTRL+C was pressed during blockchain downloading.


Those who don't see blocks, please, check if ur blocks.nxt file is growing.

blocks.nxt file is growing. I think(?) I found the problem. I had to refresh the page once the entire blockchain finishes catching up in order to see the new blocks. That also seems to include when it randomly "catches up" mid-session. So anytime I catch up, I have to refresh the page. Not sure if this is true, just my theory, I will watch it some more.

So I looked some more, and the blockchain froze again when "catching up...", no matter how many times I refreshed. blocks.nxt file stopped increasing as well.

1. delete *.nxt
2. rename blo*nxt.bak blocks.nxt
3. rename tran*nxt.bak transactions.nxt
4. wait several minutes


No, that's not it. I can start from genesis block or the files included with latest release, will still run into this problem when/if it "catches up..." the second time after the initial block download.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1038
... i will stop adding more features due to client, which is far more important i think.
so if there is any must have feature you need, please tell me now.

- your blockexplorer is very important for Nxt success (and very well done, btw).

But I can't catch the alternative client idea. Does ordinary users need an alternative client? With which server they supposed to use it?    They need to trust that server.  If they managed to found such server, why not to use current https web-client?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000


thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.


I, for one, think the community seriously needs a stable, reliable, native (non java) client that is easy to install and operate.

I'm glad your working on it.

i am not working on it now, first i have to see the api and specs.
then, if the community has decided, i could start on 3.january.
it would take me ~4 weeks, to code the client from scratch,
optimized for all nxt advantages.

btw. today i will quickly add some basic graphic/charting to block explorer
to visualize some data. there was more planned but when this is done, i will
stop adding more features due to client, which is far more important i think.
so if there is any must have feature you need, please tell me now.
Still have not tipped you - I wait to take over the giveaway after bybitcoin pass me the coins. You will be awarded what you deserve man!
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Now time for bad news.

BCNext is becoming more and more angry coz of stakeholders who don't help Nxt. They don't run their nodes, they don't support bounties, they don't take part in Nxt promotion. He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...


My personal opinion: This guy doesn't care about money nor how much 1 NXT will be worth, I'm 100% sure he will do what he said. I think that Nxt clone will have the same problems and decision to quit Nxt would be one of the worst decisions, but he has his own opinion.
Edit: If stakeholders don't change situation they should sell their coins before price drops below ZERO.

03/Jan/2014 is a very good day for the launch.  Exactly 5 years after the launch of Bitcoin.  The genesis block and software will be published much earlier so the community will have enough time to check and test everything.

Tell me the IP of your server, please.

The problem is BCNext didn't stick to his original plan. He got spooked by eMunie and jumped too early before a sufficient number of people had contributed to the genesis block. The client wasn't ready for launch either. It looks like BCNext regrets the launch date decision now, but complaining about the actions of the people who did take a gamble on NXT seems very immature and counter productive.

eMunie will succeed because its founder has patience enough to launch when he knows his product is ready. With eMunie it's quality and professionalism all the way, and that's why eMunie will be a huge success when it is launched.

Nxt has been pretty successful so far, so I'm not sure what the problem is anyway. Patience man! It's still early days, but you have damaged NXT with your threats and dramatic antics.

I have a much larger stake in NXT than I ever imagined, but that's because BCNext launched nearly 6 weeks early with too few investors, and he needs to take responsibility for the concentrated ownership as it's entirely his fault. I didn't commit to any specific actions when I sent in my BTC back in September - I'm not so much a stakeholder as an investor/gambler. I'm grateful to those users who are actively doing things to support NXT, but was there an agreement we signed? Everyone is following their own self interest.

My intention is to wait until the NXT exchange is finished and then enter the market. I'm not going to be a hoarder.

Well said!
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500


thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.


I, for one, think the community seriously needs a stable, reliable, native (non java) client that is easy to install and operate.

I'm glad your working on it.

i am not working on it now, first i have to see the api and specs.
then, if the community has decided, i could start on 3.january.
it would take me ~4 weeks, to code the client from scratch,
optimized for all nxt advantages.

btw. today i will quickly add some basic graphic/charting to block explorer
to visualize some data. there was more planned but when this is done, i will
stop adding more features due to client, which is far more important i think.
so if there is any must have feature you need, please tell me now.


full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I can say, if CC is enabled in the client and works fine for Nxt exchange, I will promote deeper and deeper and I can get more than 20% of the present users into Nxt.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
Now time for bad news.

BCNext is becoming more and more angry coz of stakeholders who don't help Nxt. They don't run their nodes, they don't support bounties, they don't take part in Nxt promotion. He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...


My personal opinion: This guy doesn't care about money nor how much 1 NXT will be worth, I'm 100% sure he will do what he said. I think that Nxt clone will have the same problems and decision to quit Nxt would be one of the worst decisions, but he has his own opinion.
Edit: If stakeholders don't change situation they should sell their coins before price drops below ZERO.

03/Jan/2014 is a very good day for the launch.  Exactly 5 years after the launch of Bitcoin.  The genesis block and software will be published much earlier so the community will have enough time to check and test everything.

Tell me the IP of your server, please.

The problem is BCNext didn't stick to his original plan. He got spooked by eMunie and jumped too early before a sufficient number of people had contributed to the genesis block. The client wasn't ready for launch either. It looks like BCNext regrets the launch date decision now, but complaining about the actions of the people who did take a gamble on NXT seems very immature and counter productive.

eMunie will succeed because its founder has patience enough to launch when he knows his product is ready. With eMunie it's quality and professionalism all the way, and that's why eMunie will be a huge success when it is launched.

Nxt has been pretty successful so far, so I'm not sure what the problem is anyway. Patience man! It's still early days, but you have damaged NXT with your threats and dramatic antics.

I have a much larger stake in NXT than I ever imagined, but that's because BCNext launched nearly 6 weeks early with too few investors, and he needs to take responsibility for the concentrated ownership as it's entirely his fault. I didn't commit to any specific actions when I sent in my BTC back in September - I'm not so much a stakeholder as an investor/gambler. I'm grateful to those users who are actively doing things to support NXT, but was there an agreement we signed? Everyone is following their own self interest.

My intention is to wait until the NXT exchange is finished and then enter the market. I'm not going to be a hoarder.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I have this bug to report. It's a second or third time I've seen it and I think it's easily reproduceable. This is on Debian Linux. Not sure if this is OS specific, but trying to give all details here. It may even be a known issue, not sure.

I have started NXT 0.3.18 and it began to download the blockchain. Then I tried to terminate it with CTRL+C BEFORE it fully downloaded, but it didn't want to exit, so I issued a kill -9 PID. Then I started the software again, but it turns out the blocks.nxt got corrupted, because the browser began to spit the java.nullpointer exception message. Had to stop the server, replace blocks.nxt with the blocks.nxt.bak file, and then start it again, and then it was alright.

So, why is it, that before the full block chain is downloaded and you stop the server, the server doesn't want to exit, and kill -9 PID corrupts the blocks.nxt file. There has to be a way to exit the server without corrupting the block chain even though the block chain isn't fully downloaded. Or did I have to wait longer for the server to exit after CTRL+C?

Thx for the report. I'll add a code that checks if CTRL+C was pressed during blockchain downloading.


Those who don't see blocks, please, check if ur blocks.nxt file is growing.

blocks.nxt file is growing. I think(?) I found the problem. I had to refresh the page once the entire blockchain finishes catching up in order to see the new blocks. That also seems to include when it randomly "catches up" mid-session. So anytime I catch up, I have to refresh the page. Not sure if this is true, just my theory, I will watch it some more.

So I looked some more, and the blockchain froze again when "catching up...", no matter how many times I refreshed. blocks.nxt file stopped increasing as well.

1. delete *.nxt
2. rename blo*nxt.bak blocks.nxt
3. rename tran*nxt.bak transactions.nxt
4. wait several minutes
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001


thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.


I, for one, think the community seriously needs a stable, reliable, native (non java) client that is easy to install and operate.

I'm glad your working on it.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
Now time for bad news.

BCNext is becoming more and more angry coz of stakeholders who don't help Nxt. They don't run their nodes, they don't support bounties, they don't take part in Nxt promotion. He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...


My personal opinion: This guy doesn't care about money nor how much 1 NXT will be worth, I'm 100% sure he will do what he said. I think that Nxt clone will have the same problems and decision to quit Nxt would be one of the worst decisions, but he has his own opinion.
Edit: If stakeholders don't change situation they should sell their coins before price drops below ZERO.

BCNext might think to give one more chance to all of us that didn't catch the time to become stakeholders, due to his earlier disappearance.

He should give us more time, expand the date...
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Finally managed to have the hallmark done and decoded correctly, after manually encoding all special characters.
I also did this once, and then decided nobody should have to do it manually. So here is a very simple html form one can use to generate hallmark, letting the browser take care of the encoding. No javascript tricks, plain old html. Save this file as nxt/webapps/root/markHost.html and then go to https://localhost:7875/nxt/markHost.html .

Code:

Generate a Hallmark for your NXT node
























Public IP:
Weight:
Date:
Secret Phrase:





Quote
Warning:
After doing this request, http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=markHost&secretPhrase=MY_SECRET&host=MY_HOST&weight=HOST_WEIGHT&date=CURRENT_DATE
your secret passphrase is stored in clear text in your browsing history! Remember to securely delete your browsing history after doing this task.

This warning is still valid. I tried to use POST instead of GET, but then I get a NullPointerException. Once this is fixed, the above form should be changed to use POST and the secretPhrase will not appear in the browser history.
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*



I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website


That's more like it.  And, based on the job you've done with the block chain explorer, I'm confident you can do it, but we will see.

thanks for you pre-trust and you are right, i am also against vaporware.
i will make an announcement tomorrow, when i have seen the api.
it's up to the community then, to decide if nxt want and need this client.

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.


xibeijan, as an attentive forum member you should recognize that all dev's are at 110%.
leading them into an emotional path for pressurized statements by provocating is not wise nor fair.

especially while sitting in a warmed up chair... Grin


I think you will find that the "emotional path" leeds back to BCNxt threatening to abandon NXT unless the markets behave as he desires.  This was not a smart move.

I see your point, but please try to see it from the perspective of those who have invested hard earned cash into NXT.

Statements like that are unacceptable.

Anyway, if you can deliver the dencetralized colored coins exchange, then all of this will be irrelevant.

It seems you're back on track.  Keep up the good work!

Just don't expect the markets to behave as you'd imagine they should... because they won't. Smiley
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
I have this bug to report. It's a second or third time I've seen it and I think it's easily reproduceable. This is on Debian Linux. Not sure if this is OS specific, but trying to give all details here. It may even be a known issue, not sure.

I have started NXT 0.3.18 and it began to download the blockchain. Then I tried to terminate it with CTRL+C BEFORE it fully downloaded, but it didn't want to exit, so I issued a kill -9 PID. Then I started the software again, but it turns out the blocks.nxt got corrupted, because the browser began to spit the java.nullpointer exception message. Had to stop the server, replace blocks.nxt with the blocks.nxt.bak file, and then start it again, and then it was alright.

So, why is it, that before the full block chain is downloaded and you stop the server, the server doesn't want to exit, and kill -9 PID corrupts the blocks.nxt file. There has to be a way to exit the server without corrupting the block chain even though the block chain isn't fully downloaded. Or did I have to wait longer for the server to exit after CTRL+C?

Thx for the report. I'll add a code that checks if CTRL+C was pressed during blockchain downloading.


Those who don't see blocks, please, check if ur blocks.nxt file is growing.

blocks.nxt file is growing. I think(?) I found the problem. I had to refresh the page once the entire blockchain finishes catching up in order to see the new blocks. That also seems to include when it randomly "catches up" mid-session. So anytime I catch up, I have to refresh the page. Not sure if this is true, just my theory, I will watch it some more.

So I looked some more, and the blockchain froze again when "catching up...", no matter how many times I refreshed. blocks.nxt file stopped increasing as well.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*



I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website


That's more like it.  And, based on the job you've done with the block chain explorer, I'm confident you can do it, but we will see.
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*



I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?

supports full decentralised exchange, software*, small, fast, portable, easy gui.

*compiled, no java, no website
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500
Now you're contradicting yourself.

Now time for bad news.
[...]
He can't force them to do all these things but he can quit this project and join other cryptocoin, no matter if it's called ClonedNxt, and contribute his ideas and code to a competitor of Nxt...
[...]

No contradiction. "Start a new" =/= "join another". What the game do u play, Mr. Xibeijan?

Don't agree with you there, but let the forums decide.

I hope you and Mr BCNxt straighten it out.

I don't think forcing the markets by threatening to quit is a sensible strategy.


xibeijan, as an attentive forum member you should recognize that all dev's are at 110%.
leading them into an emotional path for pressurized statements by provocating is not wise nor fair.

especially while sitting in a warmed up chair... Grin
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
soon we will have one of the most innovative client
for nxt*



I hope so, but what we really want is for NXT to be the most innovative with its decentralised exchange, not just another client.

Will this new client be a decentralised exchange or just a website?
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Well, guys. I'm leaving this thread coz I have to prepare a node for nexern who is developing a much better client for Nxt decentralized exchange.
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